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Old April 26th 10, 02:25 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
LSMFT
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Default Stephen Hawking: Beware The Aliens!

Pat Flannery wrote:
Watch the skies! Keep watching the skies!:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_551035.html

Any alien species that can build starships to get to Earth can probably
figure out how to mine raw materials for their civilization from more
nearby stars and planets that are uninhabited rather than coming here to
obliterate humanity and take over Earth...unless, of course, their
intention is to EAT US...what do YOU know that the American public
doesn't know, Professor Hawking?
Are the aliens coming here to EAT US?
"Yes" or "No" Hawking?
Flash the Captain Pike light once or twice so we will know the answer.

Pat


They are coming here to exterminate the cancer that is eating the
planet. These gems are rare.


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Old April 26th 10, 03:39 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
Pat Flannery
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Default Stephen Hawking: Beware The Aliens!

Watch the skies! Keep watching the skies!:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_551035.html
Any alien species that can build starships to get to Earth can probably
figure out how to mine raw materials for their civilization from more
nearby stars and planets that are uninhabited rather than coming here to
obliterate humanity and take over Earth...unless, of course, their
intention is to EAT US...what do YOU know that the American public
doesn't know, Professor Hawking?
Are the aliens coming here to EAT US?
"Yes" or "No" Hawking?
Flash the Captain Pike light once or twice so we will know the answer.

Pat
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Old April 26th 10, 04:53 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
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Perhaps Dr. Hawking's entombed brain has been
imprisoned for so long in an emaciated shell
of a hybrid cybernetic infrastructure that
his lonely, cosmologically-mathematical
myopic mindgland can no longer remember
a vital state of being prior to hyper-
vulnerability to the ravages of
time/space symbolized as a highly
sophisticated form of predation?
Or, maybe, like Dr. John Lilly's
isolation tanks in conjunction
with experiments with LSD and
Ketamine, his mind has
intercepted vast arrays
of extraterrestrial
cognitive probes
without form
eliciting
a great
fear?

~o0-O-0o~

We, Borg

Speculations on Hive Minds as a Posthuman State

http://www.aleph.se/Trans/Global/Pos...ty/WeBorg.html

by Anders Sandberg

The designers of our species set out to produce
a being that might be capable of an order of
mentality higher than their own. The only
possibility of doing so lay in planning a great
increase in brain organisation. But they knew
that the brain of an individual human being
could not safely be allowed to exceed a certain
weight. They therefore sought to produce the
new order of mentality in a system of distinct
and specialised brains held in "telepathic"
unity by means of ethereal radiation. Material
brains were to be capable of becoming on some
occasions mere nodes in a system of radiation
which itself should then constitute the
physical basis of a single mind.
Olaf Stapledon, Last and First Men

Hive minds where the individual is subsumed into a
collective consciousness has been a recurring idea
in science fiction since Olaf Stapledon's influential
novels Last and First Men (1931) and Star Maker (1937),
although the concept in some sense had been suggested
by Leviathan of Thomas Hobbes (1651). They have often
in western science fiction been used as an allegory
for communism or the anonymity of industrial
civilisation, and have usually been portrayed in a
terrifying light (Nicholls 1982). The latest such
portrayal is the Borg in Star Trek: the Next Generation:
a race of bionically augmented humanoids linked together
into a collective mind, striving to assimilate every
other intelligent species into the Collective. [...]
http://www.aleph.se/Trans/Global/Pos...ty/WeBorg.html

~o0-O-0o~

[ See also: "SATBOT I:
Prototype of a Biomorphic Autonomous Spacecraft"
http://home.netcom.com/~mthorn/satbot00.htm
and... C y b r i d i z a t i o n
http://home.netcom.com/~mthorn/sectoid2.htm ]
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Old April 26th 10, 06:09 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
Pat Flannery
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Default Stephen Hawking: Beware The Aliens!

On 4/25/2010 5:25 PM, LSMFT wrote:



They are coming here to exterminate the cancer that is eating the
planet. These gems are rare.


God-Damn Daleks!
Well, The Doctor will kick their little metal asses once again.
I just watched the "aliens" episode of that Hawking show on The
Discovery Channel, and the end ideas are straight out of "Independence
Day" as evil aliens use the power of a star's total energy output to
form a wormhole and descend on Earth.
Either they are here to eat us, or use their filthy tentacles to
sexually molest innocent Japanese girls, as is often these space
creature's wont.
The vacuum cleaner headed creatures shown climbing up the alien cliff
are interesting, particularly when you realize that their center of mass
is so far from the cliff face that rear claws or not, they will fall off
of the cliff as soon as they detach their suction-cup mouth from it.
....a suction-cup mouth that seems peculiarly well designed for sexually
molesting innocent Japanese girls. ;-)

Pat
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Old April 26th 10, 05:45 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,alt.education,alt.politics.bush
John Fartlington Pysnagel
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BUT ..... but .... but .... Is HAWKING himself an alien?

http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/msnbc/C...ed3p.widec.jpg

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"Stay home ET. UK scientist: Aliens may pose risks"

The Associated Press
Monday, April 26, 2010; 7:42 AM






LONDON -- British astrophysicist Stephen Hawking says aliens are out
there, but it could be too dangerous for humans to interact with
extraterrestrial life.

Hawking claims in a new documentary that intelligent alien lifeforms
almost certainly exist, but warns that communicating with them could
be "too risky."

The 68-year-old scientist says a visit by extraterrestrials to Earth
would be like Christopher Columbus arriving in the Americas, "which
didn't turn out very well for the Native Americans."

He speculates most extraterrestrial life will be similar to microbes,
or small animals - but adds advanced lifeforms may be "nomads, looking
to conquer and colonize."

The Discovery Channel said Sunday it will broadcast "Stephen Hawking's
Universe" in Britain next month.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...l?hpid=artslot
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Old April 26th 10, 06:46 PM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy,alt.education,alt.politics.bush
babeejm
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On Apr 26, 12:45 pm, John Fartlington Pysnagel
wrote:
BUT ..... but .... but .... Is HAWKING himself an alien?

http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/msnbc/C...0214/070214_ha...

--------------
"Stay home ET. UK scientist: Aliens may pose risks"

The Associated Press
Monday, April 26, 2010; 7:42 AM

LONDON -- British astrophysicist Stephen Hawking says aliens are out
there, but it could be too dangerous for humans to interact with
extraterrestrial life.

Hawking claims in a new documentary that intelligent alien lifeforms
almost certainly exist, but warns that communicating with them could
be "too risky."

The 68-year-old scientist says a visit by extraterrestrials to Earth
would be like Christopher Columbus arriving in the Americas, "which
didn't turn out very well for the Native Americans."

He speculates most extraterrestrial life will be similar to microbes,
or small animals - but adds advanced lifeforms may be "nomads, looking
to conquer and colonize."

The Discovery Channel said Sunday it will broadcast "Stephen Hawking's
Universe" in Britain next month.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...10/04/26/AR201...





Are we just realizing now..that aliens won't be anything like us and could pose a danger

to earthlings? Where
have we been all this time?
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Old April 26th 10, 11:20 PM posted to sci.space.policy
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 18:39:32 -0800, Pat Flannery
wrote:

Watch the skies! Keep watching the skies!:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_551035.html
Any alien species that can build starships to get to Earth can probably
figure out how to mine raw materials for their civilization from more
nearby stars and planets that are uninhabited rather than coming here to
obliterate humanity and take over Earth...unless, of course, their
intention is to EAT US...what do YOU know that the American public
doesn't know, Professor Hawking?
Are the aliens coming here to EAT US?


Just goes to show that even the illustrious Dr. Hawking isn't
immune from projecting human values onto non-human entities...

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Old April 27th 10, 09:12 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Pat Flannery
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On 4/26/2010 2:20 PM, Len Lekx wrote:

Just goes to show that even the illustrious Dr. Hawking isn't
immune from projecting human values onto non-human entities...


The series looks kind of pathetic...in the show about wormholes and time
travel he explained time dilation at near-light velocities as if it was
some bold new concept that no one watching the show would have ever
heard of before.
Frankly, if it weren't for the fact that he is completely paralyzed, I
doubt that anyone would pay anywhere as much attention to him as they do.
Of course after The Stephen Hawking Show ended, who should arrive in the
next program up but everyone's _other_ favorite sage on everything
scientific, Michio Kaku.
I blame Carl Sagan for getting this whole "Mr. Science Expert" ball rolling.

Pat
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Old April 28th 10, 12:00 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.space.policy
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"OutreZoneD" wrote in message
...


Perhaps Dr. Hawking's entombed brain has been
imprisoned for so long in an emaciated shell
of a hybrid cybernetic infrastructure that
his lonely, cosmologically-mathematical
myopic mindgland can no longer remember
a vital state of being prior to hyper-
vulnerability to the ravages of
time/space symbolized as a highly
sophisticated form of predation?



He's suffers from the same condition that plagues
most of the scientific community.
Which is excessive Faith!

The faith that somehow, someday or someone
will find a way to travel faster than light.
Which is every bit the pipe-dream as
having dinner with God.




Or, maybe, like Dr. John Lilly's
isolation tanks in conjunction
with experiments with LSD and
Ketamine, his mind has
intercepted vast arrays
of extraterrestrial
cognitive probes
without form
eliciting
a great
fear?

~o0-O-0o~



You've argued yourself narrow!

Hawking fails to take into account a simple fact
of life. Which is that life is not a fluke, it evolves
just as soon as possible, as soon as it can.
One would think that 'fact' means we should be
visited, but what it really means is that we are
probably among the first wave of intelligent life
all coevolving around similar time frames.
So 'they' are probably out there, but probably
waiting for ...us to visit them.

Combine the coevolutionary character of life with
the distances, and it just isn't reasonable to expect
any contact at all, even though the universe
is, and will be, teeming with life. There is no
contradiction.

Recent discoveries in dark matter and dark energy
support this view. As dark energy was almost
nonexistent before life on Earth evolved.
Dark matter emerged just as the universe became
dominated by matter, about the same time as our
solar system and life formed.

So the question should be asked, what's the relationship
between dark energy and biological evolution?

Both are emergent system properties.

Like a market force, for instance.
The force or tendency exists, we know it does
yet it's ethereal in nature, and has no tangible
existence.

Emergent system properties guide the whole
towards increasing order, they are responsible
for all creation, yet cannot be seen, measured
or touched.

Hmm, what's another word for something like that?




s

















We, Borg

Speculations on Hive Minds as a Posthuman State

http://www.aleph.se/Trans/Global/Pos...ty/WeBorg.html

by Anders Sandberg

The designers of our species set out to produce
a being that might be capable of an order of
mentality higher than their own. The only
possibility of doing so lay in planning a great
increase in brain organisation. But they knew
that the brain of an individual human being
could not safely be allowed to exceed a certain
weight. They therefore sought to produce the
new order of mentality in a system of distinct
and specialised brains held in "telepathic"
unity by means of ethereal radiation. Material
brains were to be capable of becoming on some
occasions mere nodes in a system of radiation
which itself should then constitute the
physical basis of a single mind.
Olaf Stapledon, Last and First Men

Hive minds where the individual is subsumed into a
collective consciousness has been a recurring idea
in science fiction since Olaf Stapledon's influential
novels Last and First Men (1931) and Star Maker (1937),
although the concept in some sense had been suggested
by Leviathan of Thomas Hobbes (1651). They have often
in western science fiction been used as an allegory
for communism or the anonymity of industrial
civilisation, and have usually been portrayed in a
terrifying light (Nicholls 1982). The latest such
portrayal is the Borg in Star Trek: the Next Generation:
a race of bionically augmented humanoids linked together
into a collective mind, striving to assimilate every
other intelligent species into the Collective. [...]
http://www.aleph.se/Trans/Global/Pos...ty/WeBorg.html

~o0-O-0o~

[ See also: "SATBOT I:
Prototype of a Biomorphic Autonomous Spacecraft"
http://home.netcom.com/~mthorn/satbot00.htm
and... C y b r i d i z a t i o n
http://home.netcom.com/~mthorn/sectoid2.htm ]




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Old April 28th 10, 04:52 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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Pat Flannery writes:

I blame Carl Sagan for getting this whole "Mr. Science Expert" ball rolling.


I blame Don Herbert and Leonard Nimoy....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Herbert
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Nimoy

Peace and long life, live long and better electrically.

At least that's how its stored in my memory....

;-)

Dave
 




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