First Moonwalk? A Russian Perspective

On Tue, 10 Feb 2004 18:55:22 +0100, "Warhol"
wrote:

Fair warning: Henry Spencer is OCD and a ...... moron

For a moron I sure did pluck your feathers!!!!!!

Ok, that it! Trolling in one thing but insulting the patron saint of
USENET is another. To the killfile with you!

Mark Percival
Montreal, Quebec

"Hallerb" wrote in message
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There are many (dozens or hundreds) of photos showing rover tracks. They
are
pretty visible on the surface, but I doubt would be visible from
"overhead".
They were not visible from the CSM in orbit. Since the traverses were
multiple km, they would be largely undisturbed from the LM liftoff.


Well for the missions with rovers.

I question wether such disturbances were ever visible from above and what
effects 30 years have had. solar wind, impacts, and what little atmosphere
the
moon had after the last LM left. Primarilty LM exhaust.

all of this makes it impossible to know without looking.

I would imagine that they would be as pristine as they day they were made.
Erosion of features on the moon (through solar wind, micrometeors and heat
cycles) proceeds very slowly. What possible mechanism would erode several in
deep prints in just thirty years? Also, the oxygen vented from the LM cabins
for the EVAs are a much larger contribution to atmosphere than the LM
exhaust.

"Hallerb" wrote in message
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Well we KNOW that chile telescope will be capable of imaging the lower
stage,
its been dicscussed before.

Has it actually done so yet? If not, then we *don't know* any such thing. At
best, we might know that it's theoretically possible.

But just how does one research the possible
visiblity of a moon rovers trail?

You already have several research assignments. Please complete them first
before starting a new one. How's your research on the research you did on
NASA management prior to posting flames about them? How's your research on
figuring out whether or not you researched alternative failure modes for
Columbia before posting that was happened was the "worst possible way"?

"Ami Silberman" wrote in message
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What possible mechanism would erode several in
deep prints in just thirty years?

Well, when the Venusian Fire Women party, they party all over the place.

"Herb Schaltegger" lid a
écrit dans le message de news: ...
Warhol wrote:


"Henry Spencer" a écrit dans le message de news:
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In article ,
Warhol wrote:
So you admit, No proof of Man On the Moon

Prove to me that you aren't a chimpanzee, or admit that you are. :-)
--
MOST launched 30 June; science observations running | Henry
Spencer
since Oct; first surprises seen; papers pending. |


Fair warning: Henry Spencer is OCD and a phucking moron

For a moron I sure did pluck your feathers!!!!!!

OHHHHHH HO HO HO HO

HO HO HO HO

aaaaaaaaaaaaahhaahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahha

Who loves you Kitty cat KISS KIS

You've proven you're either an eleven year old human moron or Henry's
contention that you're a chimpanzee. Go away and throw your feces
somewhere else.


What are you kidding FAKE CORPORAL

You are sooo predictable,....

How about a platoon leader or, in exceptional cases, maybe a company
commander.......

"Warhol" wrote in message
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"Herb Schaltegger" lid
a
écrit dans le message de news: ...
Warhol wrote:


"Henry Spencer" a écrit dans le message de news:
...
In article ,
Warhol wrote:
So you admit, No proof of Man On the Moon

Prove to me that you aren't a chimpanzee, or admit that you are. :-)
--
MOST launched 30 June; science observations running | Henry
Spencer
since Oct; first surprises seen; papers pending. |


Fair warning: Henry Spencer is OCD and a phucking moron

For a moron I sure did pluck your feathers!!!!!!

OHHHHHH HO HO HO HO

HO HO HO HO

aaaaaaaaaaaaahhaahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahha

Who loves you Kitty cat KISS KIS

You've proven you're either an eleven year old human moron or Henry's
contention that you're a chimpanzee. Go away and throw your feces
somewhere else.


What are you kidding FAKE CORPORAL

You are sooo predictable,....

How about a platoon leader or, in exceptional cases, maybe a company
commander.......

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Stu Gotz wrote:

A week before Apollo 11 was launched, NASA launched an unmanned
probe which was placed in lunar orbit. It was explained that the probe
was for the purpose of training the Mission Control folks.

The same probe could have easily been used to relay radio signals from
the Apollo craft which was in low earth orbit. Since the signals were
coming via the lunar probe the propagations delays would have been
correct.


That's nice, and this launching occured when?:
http://www.astronautix.com/chrono/19693.htm



Keep searching.


Say hello to General Zod for me....
(Whirring sound as sheet of Kryptonian glass comes flying out of the
red-sunned sky, and yet another one heads off to The Phantom Zone.) :-D

Flan-El

(followups trimmed to spare some of the groups)

Stu Gotz wrote:

Oh you may be the idiot. The unmanned probe was named Tetra, I believe,
and it was very real. Mission Control practiced on transmission from
the probe in preparation for the Apollo 11 mission. it's not a secret
-- NASA has admitted it.

The Soviets didn't blow the whistle because joint US-USSR cooperation on
the
space program began long before the Apollo-Soyut mission.

And in case you haven't paid attention to recent history in the past 30
years, the US "loaned" the USSR millions of dollars which they needn't
have paid back. In addition, the US bagan selling wheat and other crops
to the Soviets beginning around the time of the Apollo missions, most of
the credit going to Tricky Nixon.

Suffice to say, the Soviets had all sorts of incentives to keep the lid
on the Apollo missions.

Dream on pal.

-- Stu

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I see some village is missing its idiot. Suggested name change:
Schifosa, or maybe Gavone.

--
bp
Proud Member of the Human O-Ring Society Since 2003

Stu Gotz wrote:

Oh you may be the idiot. The unmanned probe was named Tetra, I believe,
and it was very real. Mission Control practiced on transmission from
the probe in preparation for the Apollo 11 mission. it's not a secret
-- NASA has admitted it.

Well, you almost got the satellite name correct. Too bad the rest of your
story is full of ****. Keep your delusional conspiracy clap-trap to
yourself and stop cross-posting to sci.* groups.

http://www.clavius.org/techcomm.html for the real story on TETR-A.


--
Herb Schaltegger, B.S., J.D.
Reformed Aerospace Engineer
Remove invalid nonsense for email.

In article ,
Herb Schaltegger
lid wrote:

Stu Gotz wrote:

Oh you may be the idiot. The unmanned probe was named Tetra, I believe,
and it was very real. Mission Control practiced on transmission from
the probe in preparation for the Apollo 11 mission. it's not a secret
-- NASA has admitted it.

Well, you almost got the satellite name correct. Too bad the rest of your
story is full of ****. Keep your delusional conspiracy clap-trap to
yourself and stop cross-posting to sci.* groups.

http://www.clavius.org/techcomm.html for the real story on TETR-A.

Herb,

I do NOT cross-post anywhere. The only thing that is full of **** is
you if you believe the official story. I tried to enlighten you.

Ignorance can be fixed; stupidity is forever.

-- Stu