IMPACT

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3638926.stm

Well, that's one way to dig a hole for a tree in this God-forsaken desert,
though a little more expensive than renting a jackhammer.

Manuel Joseph Din wrote:

Wfoley2 wrote:

Does Manuel Joseph Din agree that Daniel Joseph Min is a crock of crap??
Clear, Dark, Steady Skies! (And considerate neighbors!!!)



No. He does server as an example of the progressive nature of mental
illness. In that way, he makes a contribution.
It's like they say, "Everybody carries a message for us."
The trick is to be open to that message.

Well said MJD.
And I don't even drink beer. ;-)

Shawn

You think they are not the same?

Wfoley2 wrote:
Does Manuel Joseph Din agree that
Daniel Joseph Min is a crock of crap??
Clear, Dark, Steady Skies!
(And considerate neighbors!!!)

On Wed, 08 Sep 2004 16:40:01 -0400, starman wrote:

TommyBoy wrote:

The genesis probe slammed into thte UTAH desert..watched the whole thing on
NASA TV.
A wobbling discus without a chute it hit at about 100 mph..wild!

Closer to 200-mph. They still have hope for recovering some of the solar
samples.

Why should the samples be unsalvageable? Weren't they just plates
designed to collect the particles via impact?
-Rich

NPR said today its a total loss.

starman wrote:

TommyBoy wrote:

The genesis probe slammed into thte UTAH desert..watched the whole thing on
NASA TV.
A wobbling discus without a chute it hit at about 100 mph..wild!

Closer to 200-mph. They still have hope for recovering some of the solar
samples.

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Phil Wheeler wrote:
You think they are not the same?

I think MJD != DJM.

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In message , starman
writes
TommyBoy wrote:

The genesis probe slammed into thte UTAH desert..watched the whole thing on
NASA TV.
A wobbling discus without a chute it hit at about 100 mph..wild!

Closer to 200-mph. They still have hope for recovering some of the solar
samples.

If containment was breached (and in a 200mph crash it seems very likely
that it will have been) then the scientific usefulness of the samples
will be very limited. They were meant only to be opened in a top grade
clean room. Desert dust will contaminate the samples.

Reports over here talk of cracks inches wide in both containers.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3638926.stm

Not good.

Regards,
--
Martin Brown

Uncle Bob wrote:

Richard wrote:

Why should the samples be unsalvageable? Weren't they just plates
designed to collect the particles via impact?
-Rich ^^^^^^


The results will likely show that the Sun is made of material very much
like Utah.

Now we know why it is so hot in UT :-)

But I agree re the effect of the impact on the science.

Phil

If containment was breached (and in a 200mph crash it seems very likely
that it will have been) then the scientific usefulness of the samples
will be very limited.

I think the samples will have limited usefulness even if the containment was
not breached. There would always be doubt and suspicion associated with any
results that might come from studying these samples.

Jon

On 09 Sep 2004 13:13:42 GMT, (Jon Isaacs) wrote:


If containment was breached (and in a 200mph crash it seems very likely
that it will have been) then the scientific usefulness of the samples
will be very limited.

I think the samples will have limited usefulness even if the containment was
not breached. There would always be doubt and suspicion associated with any
results that might come from studying these samples.

Jon

Couldn't they just separate out "Utah" from it and see what's left?