GUTH Venus is way too hot for even Bad Astronomy

"Brad Guth" wrote in message
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Why bother terraforming, when it's more than good enough as is?

ESA's already at Venus, Russia is going back there next: where's ours?

Venusian Composite Rigid Airship: so what's the big insurmountable
deal?

Why the hell not invest R&D into creating a viable composite rigid
airship (Skylon or fat waverider spaceplane), on behalf of our doing
Venus?

It's not even all that hocus-pocus or having to involve the pesky likes
of all those NASA/Apollo smoke and mirrors, instead it's simply doable
within the regular laws of physics as is. The actual rigid airship as a
Venusian atmospheric probe that'll function rather nicely below their
nighttime season of clouds needn't be manned, and therefore needn't be
all that large.

Unlike most other planets, or even moons that we know of, Venus is just
getting itself started at kicking it's own DNA butt, and otherwise Mars
DNA has long been kicked, nicely cosmic zapped and then rather nicely
freeze dried to death.

The composite rigid airship as efficiently operating within the highly
buoyant Venusian environment can at least accommodate intelligent other
life in more viable ways than it's being given credit for. There has
even been good enough pictures of what's been doable by others. Yet lo
and behold, Venus remains as the most nearby and absolute most
accessible taboo/nondisclosure other orb in our solar system, that's
none the less easier and much safer than doing our moon.

Unlike our nearly frozen solid to the very core of that silly old Mars,
that's also representing an environment that's worthy of getting
yourself cosmic TBI and otherwise rather easily pulverised to death
while on that nearly naked surface, whereas on the relatively newish and
evolving planetology of Venus there's hardly any cosmic or nasty forms
of solar energy that's DNA lethal getting through all of that thick soup
of atmosphere, nor is there hardly any need of your having to dig in in
order to find more than your fair share of geothermal or terrific gas
vent issues that can be put directly to the task of extracting renewable
energy on the spot.

The vertical atmospheric thick soup of such nifty pressure and thermal
differential factors alone are clearly by themselves more than
sufficient means to sustain most any mere halfwit intelligent form of
life. That is unless you are one of these warm and fuzzy naysay Usenet
village idiots, in which case absolutely nothing is possible in the
past, present or future, so why bother.

The ongoing devoid or rather ongoing topic/author banishment of such
viable energy related ideas or even honest swags of viable
considerations from this anti-think-tank of our status quo or bust
naysay Usenet land, that's having been really good at their typically
sucking and blowing worth of infomercial crapolla spewing on behalf of
all things government and big-energy, is simply further proof-positive
that such renewable energy while on Venusian deck has been doable.

Venus is in fact a hot place, though actually it's not all that nasty of
an environment. But so what if it's hot, as long as you've got such
access to and having the sufficient smarts on behalf of utilizing the
vast amounts of renewable energy that's already there to behold?

Just because a given planet or moon is a little too hot, too cold or
even too wet for our naked bodies or physiological grasp, doesn't in of
itself mean that it's 100+% taboo. Escaping the lethal forms of cosmic
and solar radiation seems by far more of a life essential important
issue, and secondly avoiding whatever's physically incoming seems like
yet another win-win for the old gipper, especially if it's having to do
with avoiding getting seriously smacked in the butt by way of something
that has your name on it.

Venus simply couldn't possibly be any more newish, alive and kicking on
the various doors of accommodating other life, especially on behalf of
rather easily accommodating intelligent other life that's merely
visiting, possibly even of a few locally evolved species isn't outside
of this toasty Venusian box. Although, I suppose if there's lots of
cosmic radiated and otherwise meteorite pulverised dry-ice, plus
whatever remains of that sub-frozen regular old Mars ice that's perhaps
near solid to the very icy dead (older than Earth) core of Mars is still
somehow life worthy, then so be it.

These pro-Mars folks should simply impress us, as in knocking our socks
off, if they can. I'm absolutely certain that as of millions of years
ago Mars could have had a touch of life to spare, and back a good
billion some odd years even better odds yet for having sustained sizable
(larger than rad-hard microbe) forms of such other local life
(intelligent being yet to be proven unless merely visiting).

On the other real and honest hands of utilizing those regular laws of
physics, as such there is absolutely nothing that's so insurmountable
about Venus. Thinking otherwise is only the proof-positive as to how
terribly snookered and dumbfounded past the mindset point of no return
you have become.

BTW; if the absolutely bleak realm of that Mars of today has any
remainders of life to behold, then upon our own pesky moon that's still
more than a touch salty is absolutely loaded to the gills, with it's
local and cosmic DNA morgue worth of nifty spores, and you name it.
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Brad Guth


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"Art Deco" wrote in message


It would melt and corrode, Brad.

Judging by the topic, you must still be sore you were banned from the
Bad Astronomy BB after just four posts, Brad.

I'm having to break my very own no-speak to any borg rule. Terribly
sorry about that.

No it wouldn't, and yes I am.
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Brad Guth


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Brad Guth wrote:

"Brad Guth" wrote in message
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Nut case.

"Peggy" wrote in message


Where the heck did our all-knowing "Peggy" (aka Nut Case) come from, or
otherwise go?

As "peggy" being another believer in those conditional laws of physics,
but otherwise a non-believer in the regular laws of physics, and in
general a born-again naysayer as to everything that's of any replicated
scientific evidence, you'd have to wonder how such a negative person
manages to get safely out of bed, much less across most any given
street.

Apparently, any given nearby planet with a thousand fold more easily
available raw energy that's 100% renewable, and thus also cleaner than
anything Earth has to offer, is simply asking too much from such spooks,
moles and wizards like our warm and fuzzy "Peggy".

I happen to believe that "Saturn's Moon Titan and its atmosphere" is yet
another energy well that should be tapped to the fullest, although the
raw energy necessary for utilizing such a viable resource of Titan
related elements represents a daunting complication, especially without
a good local supply of O2. Although nearby ice that should be onboard
other Saturn moons, or that of orbital icy debris, could provide
unlimited volumes of O2 to burn along with Titan's gas.
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Brad Guth




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