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Old August 25th 06, 02:55 PM posted to sci.environment,alt.global-warming,sci.space.policy,sci.astro.amateur,sci.space.history
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Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:
You seem confused about the terms you are using.
Please consult a dictionary before you become a complete laughing stock.
Only a ****ing idiot quotes a dictionary on the usenet.


So you consider misusing the *menaing* of words to be the point of this
thread? Nuff said.


I'm sure I spieled fascist write, I looked it up in the dictionary.


Shame you didn't read what it *meant* while you were at it. You might
have learned something.

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Old August 25th 06, 11:44 PM posted to sci.environment,alt.global-warming,sci.space.policy,sci.astro.amateur,sci.space.history
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"There is no man so blind as one who has made up his mind." Dune

Our America is NOT a 'democracy'...not even a plutocracy or republic
anymore. It is increasingly becoming a quasi-facist state with
'terrorists' as the new 'bogeyman' to instill fear into the populace
and enhance the control of the ruling elite. With controlled and
bought elections, the everage electorate become increasingly powerless.

"When the shepard is a wolf...the flock are incrasingly merely herded
food'" Dune

The American sheeple care more about voting for American Idol than
participating in the real elctions of political power. We don't take a
stand and demand PAPER RECEIPT ballots and sit back and allow our
elections to be stolen from right under our eyes. One who does nothing
when seeing wrongs in front of them is simply asleep with open eyes.

As for 'Apollo on Steroids'...there is ANOTHER ANSWER:

http://commonsensecentral.blogspot.c...e-are-you.html

We threw away our space heritage. We let them LOOSE the ENTIRE
ORIGINAL television record tapes from ALL the Apollo flights. WHY???

For photographs:

http://www.keithlaney.net/project_fr...llo_images.htm

Of the 47,934 total Apollo and support missions photographs,
fewer than 1350 are faithful digital reproductions.
This means that very little over 2% of this photography has ever been
seen by the public.
This is unacceptable.
Yet there is very little outcry amoung the 'space community' for all
these problems and issues. Much of the reason is because if you rock
the boat...you're thrown overboard in this administration especially.
Global Warming is a 'mind trick' yet blocks of ice bigger than Rhode
Island fall into the ocean each year. Stem cells cannot be harvested
because they are 'human beings'. Science has become 'polticized' by
this adminstration more so than at any time in our past. Until we undo
this...we shall be stuck onthis rock called Earth until a T-Rex killer
kills us within the next 25 years. We will never get out and colonize
the solar system under this timetable and this political narrow
viewpoints.

Bob...

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Old August 25th 06, 11:44 PM posted to sci.environment,alt.global-warming,sci.space.policy,sci.astro.amateur,sci.space.history
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"There is no man so blind as one who has made up his mind." Dune

Our America is NOT a 'democracy'...not even a plutocracy or republic
anymore. It is increasingly becoming a quasi-facist state with
'terrorists' as the new 'bogeyman' to instill fear into the populace
and enhance the control of the ruling elite. With controlled and
bought elections, the everage electorate become increasingly powerless.

"When the shepard is a wolf...the flock are incrasingly merely herded
food'" Dune

The American sheeple care more about voting for American Idol than
participating in the real elctions of political power. We don't take a
stand and demand PAPER RECEIPT ballots and sit back and allow our
elections to be stolen from right under our eyes. One who does nothing
when seeing wrongs in front of them is simply asleep with open eyes.

As for 'Apollo on Steroids'...there is ANOTHER ANSWER:

http://commonsensecentral.blogspot.c...e-are-you.html

We threw away our space heritage. We let them LOOSE the ENTIRE
ORIGINAL television record tapes from ALL the Apollo flights. WHY???

For photographs:

http://www.keithlaney.net/project_fr...llo_images.htm

Of the 47,934 total Apollo and support missions photographs,
fewer than 1350 are faithful digital reproductions.
This means that very little over 2% of this photography has ever been
seen by the public.
This is unacceptable.
Yet there is very little outcry amoung the 'space community' for all
these problems and issues. Much of the reason is because if you rock
the boat...you're thrown overboard in this administration especially.
Global Warming is a 'mind trick' yet blocks of ice bigger than Rhode
Island fall into the ocean each year. Stem cells cannot be harvested
because they are 'human beings'. Science has become 'polticized' by
this adminstration more so than at any time in our past. Until we undo
this...we shall be stuck onthis rock called Earth until a T-Rex killer
kills us within the next 25 years. We will never get out and colonize
the solar system under this timetable and this political narrow
viewpoints.

Bob...

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Old August 26th 06, 09:56 PM posted to sci.environment,alt.global-warming,sci.space.policy,sci.astro.amateur,sci.space.history
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wrote:
Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:
wrote:
Thomas Lee Elifritz wrote:
You seem confused about the terms you are using.
Please consult a dictionary before you become a complete laughing stock.
Only a ****ing idiot quotes a dictionary on the usenet.
So you consider misusing the *menaing* of words to be the point of this
thread? Nuff said.
I'm sure I spieled fascist write, I looked it up in the dictionary.

Shame you didn't read what it *meant* while you were at it. You might
have learned something.


Only an idiot quotes the dictionary on the usenet.


Only a fool and an idiot uses words he doesn't know the meaning of.


Instant availability of all human knowledge, and you are still quoting
dictionaries.

Only an absolutist claims that language doesn't evolve :

http://www.secularhumanism.org/libra...britt_23_2.htm

1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism. From the
prominent displays of flags and bunting to the ubiquitous lapel pins,
the fervor to show patriotic nationalism, both on the part of the
regime itself and of citizens caught up in its frenzy, was always
obvious. Catchy slogans, pride in the military, and demands for unity
were common themes in expressing this nationalism. It was usually
coupled with a suspicion of things foreign that often bordered on
xenophobia.

2. Disdain for the importance of human rights. The regimes themselves
viewed human rights as of little value and a hindrance to realizing the
objectives of the ruling elite. Through clever use of propaganda, the
population was brought to accept these human rights abuses by
marginalizing, even demonizing, those being targeted. When abuse was
egregious, the tactic was to use secrecy, denial, and disinformation.

3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause. The most
significant common thread among these regimes was the use of
scapegoating as a means to divert the people's attention from other
problems, to shift blame for failures, and to channel frustration in
controlled directions. The methods of choice-relentless propaganda
and disinformation-were usually effective. Often the regimes would
incite "spontaneous" acts against the target scapegoats, usually
communists, socialists, liberals, Jews, ethnic and racial minorities,
traditional national enemies, members of other religions, secularists,
homosexuals, and "terrorists." Active opponents of these regimes
were inevitably labeled as terrorists and dealt with accordingly.

4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism. Ruling elites always
identified closely with the military and the industrial infrastructure
that supported it. A disproportionate share of national resources was
allocated to the military, even when domestic needs were acute. The
military was seen as an expression of nationalism, and was used
whenever possible to assert national goals, intimidate other nations,
and increase the power and prestige of the ruling elite.

5. Rampant sexism. Beyond the simple fact that the political elite and
the national culture were male-dominated, these regimes inevitably
viewed women as second-class citizens. They were adamantly
anti-abortion and also homophobic. These attitudes were usually
codified in Draconian laws that enjoyed strong support by the orthodox
religion of the country, thus lending the regime cover for its abuses.

6. A controlled mass media. Under some of the regimes, the mass media
were under strict direct control and could be relied upon never to
stray from the party line. Other regimes exercised more subtle power to
ensure media orthodoxy. Methods included the control of licensing and
access to resources, economic pressure, appeals to patriotism, and
implied threats. The leaders of the mass media were often politically
compatible with the power elite. The result was usually success in
keeping the general public unaware of the regimes' excesses.

7. Obsession with national security. Inevitably, a national security
apparatus was under direct control of the ruling elite. It was usually
an instrument of oppression, operating in secret and beyond any
constraints. Its actions were justified under the rubric of protecting
"national security," and questioning its activities was portrayed
as unpatriotic or even treasonous.

8. Religion and ruling elite tied together. Unlike communist regimes,
the fascist and protofascist regimes were never proclaimed as godless
by their opponents. In fact, most of the regimes attached themselves to
the predominant religion of the country and chose to portray themselves
as militant defenders of that religion. The fact that the ruling
elite's behavior was incompatible with the precepts of the religion
was generally swept under the rug. Propaganda kept up the illusion that
the ruling elites were defenders of the faith and opponents of the
"godless." A perception was manufactured that opposing the power
elite was tantamount to an attack on religion.

9. Power of corporations protected. Although the personal life of
ordinary citizens was under strict control, the ability of large
corporations to operate in relative freedom was not compromised. The
ruling elite saw the corporate structure as a way to not only ensure
military production (in developed states), but also as an additional
means of social control. Members of the economic elite were often
pampered by the political elite to ensure a continued mutuality of
interests, especially in the repression of "have-not" citizens.

10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated. Since organized labor was
seen as the one power center that could challenge the political
hegemony of the ruling elite and its corporate allies, it was
inevitably crushed or made powerless. The poor formed an underclass,
viewed with suspicion or outright contempt. Under some regimes, being
poor was considered akin to a vice.

11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts.
Intellectuals and the inherent freedom of ideas and expression
associated with them were anathema to these regimes. Intellectual and
academic freedom were considered subversive to national security and
the patriotic ideal. Universities were tightly controlled; politically
unreliable faculty harassed or eliminated. Unorthodox ideas or
expressions of dissent were strongly attacked, silenced, or crushed. To
these regimes, art and literature should serve the national interest or
they had no right to exist.

12. Obsession with crime and punishment. Most of these regimes
maintained Draconian systems of criminal justice with huge prison
populations. The police were often glorified and had almost unchecked
power, leading to rampant abuse. "Normal" and political crime were
often merged into trumped-up criminal charges and sometimes used
against political opponents of the regime. Fear, and hatred, of
criminals or "traitors" was often promoted among the population as
an excuse for more police power.

13. Rampant cronyism and corruption. Those in business circles and
close to the power elite often used their position to enrich
themselves. This corruption worked both ways; the power elite would
receive financial gifts and property from the economic elite, who in
turn would gain the benefit of government favoritism. Members of the
power elite were in a position to obtain vast wealth from other sources
as well: for example, by stealing national resources. With the national
security apparatus under control and the media muzzled, this corruption
was largely unconstrained and not well understood by the general
population.

14. Fraudulent elections. Elections in the form of plebiscites or
public opinion polls were usually bogus. When actual elections with
candidates were held, they would usually be perverted by the power
elite to get the desired result. Common methods included maintaining
control of the election machinery, intimidating and disenfranchising
opposition voters, destroying or disallowing legal votes, and, as a
last resort, turning to a judiciary beholden to the power elite.

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Old August 27th 06, 12:23 AM posted to sci.space.history,sci.environment,sci.space.policy,sci.astro.amateur
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"Thomas Lee Elifritz" wrote in message


Only an idiot quotes the dictionary on the usenet.


But that's about all this anti-think-tank of a Usenet from hell has to
offer.
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Old August 29th 06, 02:41 PM posted to sci.environment,alt.global-warming,sci.space.policy,sci.astro.amateur,sci.space.history
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On 25 Aug 2006 15:44:59 -0700, "rhw007" wrote:


"There is no man so blind as one who has made up his mind." Dune

Our America is NOT a 'democracy'...not even a plutocracy or republic
anymore. It is increasingly becoming a quasi-facist state with
'terrorists' as the new 'bogeyman' to instill fear into the populace
and enhance the control of the ruling elite. With controlled and
bought elections, the everage electorate become increasingly powerless.

"When the shepard is a wolf...the flock are incrasingly merely herded
food'" Dune

The American sheeple care more about voting for American Idol than
participating in the real elctions of political power. We don't take a
stand and demand PAPER RECEIPT ballots and sit back and allow our
elections to be stolen from right under our eyes. One who does nothing
when seeing wrongs in front of them is simply asleep with open eyes.

As for 'Apollo on Steroids'...there is ANOTHER ANSWER:

http://commonsensecentral.blogspot.c...e-are-you.html

We threw away our space heritage. We let them LOOSE the ENTIRE
ORIGINAL television record tapes from ALL the Apollo flights. WHY???

For photographs:

http://www.keithlaney.net/project_fr...llo_images.htm

Of the 47,934 total Apollo and support missions photographs,
fewer than 1350 are faithful digital reproductions.
This means that very little over 2% of this photography has ever been
seen by the public.
This is unacceptable.
Yet there is very little outcry amoung the 'space community' for all
these problems and issues. Much of the reason is because if you rock
the boat...you're thrown overboard in this administration especially.
Global Warming is a 'mind trick' yet blocks of ice bigger than Rhode
Island fall into the ocean each year. Stem cells cannot be harvested
because they are 'human beings'. Science has become 'polticized' by
this adminstration more so than at any time in our past. Until we undo
this...we shall be stuck onthis rock called Earth until a T-Rex killer
kills us within the next 25 years. We will never get out and colonize
the solar system under this timetable and this political narrow
viewpoints.

Bob...




a first! a left wing right-wing-nut.
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Old August 30th 06, 03:12 AM posted to sci.space.history
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On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:41:24 GMT, beav wrote:

a first! a left wing right-wing-nut.


....Yes, but who's the nut? The one who posts that crap, or the
complete and utter dickwad who wastes space quoting the entire mess
only to add one line of snotty remark?

PLONK

....There. Now both of you can sodomize each other in Killfile Hell.

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