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Maybe a means to the stars, IMO.
This of course assumes there is something out there worth seeing.
Most the the time, the wild eye dreams to get to the stars propose super fast travel means or a generation ship is proposed. I always maintained altering human biology such that human live vastly longer might be the way. If one lives a 1000 years or 10 000 years a 100 year trip is doable, IMO. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0103135131.htm Maybe the human travelers could also have some form slowed metabolic state in combination with an ongoing stem cell infusion. So it would even seem not too long. The spacecraft would still need massive shielding but I suspect that is something of detail as the craft drives will still have to be impressive. |
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Maybe a means to the stars, IMO.
David Spain wrote:
One of the more interesting "speculative fiction" stories I recall is a multi-generational ship which is transporting only human DNA, either in cold store or as frozen eggs and sperm or (to inject some 21st century thinking) perhaps as only chemicals that can be synthesized into human DNA by computer from its archetype memory storage for fertilization and ex-vitro gestation at the destination (assuming arrival at an environmentally "friendly" planet). And I might as well add animal DNA... The commonly-known term for this is "arkship", since its direct historical allegory is the biblical story of Noah's Ark. Another interesting speculation is to think about what is need to bootstrap a civilization to the level attained at the origin. What would a society be like that didn't have to go through the stone, iron, bronze, steel ages on its own? I guess it would be a little weird, because essentially you'd have a tribal society existing with xx(th) century technology. Is this only really a recipe for disaster? How to we teach people how to live together so that they don't kill themselves off with the technology at hand? (To be honest, I think we're still struggling with that back here at the point of origin)... Dave |
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Maybe a means to the stars, IMO.
David Spain wrote:
David Spain wrote: How to we teach people how to live together so that they don't kill themselves off with the technology at hand? (To be honest, I think we're still struggling with that back here at the point of origin)... The other biblical allegory for this is the Garden of Eden. So the answer perhaps, is maybe you don't give them that tech.... Such nice ancestors they'd have, can't say we'd spoiled them... Dave |
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Maybe a means to the stars, IMO.
David Spain wrote:
And I might as well add animal DNA... The commonly-known term for this is "arkship", since its direct historical allegory is the biblical story of Noah's Ark. And while we're on the subject of doing outside loops.... It has come to the consideration of some that perhaps this arkship business is also our story. Dinosaurs are not mentioned in the Bible. Maybe that's because the transfer vehicle arrived, saw a planet with potential but a little too warm, and with reptile lifeforms that would present a danger to the landers and thus decided to do some 'terra-forming' on its own, by "retasking" an asteroid. And 'N.O.A.H' (Non-Orbital, Artificial, Habitat) took care of the rest... ;-) Dave |
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Maybe a means to the stars, IMO.
On Jan 4, 5:01*am, David Spain wrote:
David Spain wrote: One of the more interesting "speculative fiction" stories I recall is a multi-generational ship which is transporting only human DNA, either in cold store or as frozen eggs and sperm or (to inject some 21st century thinking) perhaps as only chemicals that can be synthesized into human DNA by computer from its archetype memory storage for fertilization and ex-vitro gestation at the destination (assuming arrival at an environmentally "friendly" planet). And I might as well add animal DNA... The commonly-known term for this is "arkship", since its direct historical allegory is the biblical story of Noah's Ark. Another interesting speculation is to think about what is need to bootstrap a civilization to the level attained at the origin. What would a society be like that didn't have to go through the stone, iron, bronze, steel ages on its own? I guess it would be a little weird, because essentially you'd have a tribal society existing with xx(th) century technology. Is this only really a recipe for disaster? How to we teach people how to live together so that they don't kill themselves off with the technology at hand? (To be honest, I think we're still struggling with that back here at the point of origin)... Dave Perhaps there could androids that would socialize the infants and children. Now that would be programming challange!!! 2X at least. |
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Maybe a means to the stars, IMO.
On Jan 4, 5:06*am, David Spain wrote:
David Spain wrote: David Spain wrote: How to we teach people how to live together so that they don't kill themselves off with the technology at hand? (To be honest, I think we're still struggling with that back here at the point of origin)... The other biblical allegory for this is the Garden of Eden. So the answer perhaps, is maybe you don't give them that tech.... Such nice ancestors they'd have, can't say we'd spoiled them... Dave Taking that further, Adam does waken to a "terraformed' earth. So maybe a seed ship came earlier and/or a automated terraformer ship(s). Better tell Adam and descendents some facts like germ theory rather than making them work out it. Recall per the bible, mankind is alienated from the Diety/planetary engineer and cast out of the controlled environment. |
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