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Old April 9th 08, 09:02 PM posted to sci.space.policy
zfolwick
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Default what would make open source space exploration work?

I think the biggest problem with an open source space exploration
policy is legistlation and political will. (in America at least)

isn't there a hobbyist limit on the height that you can launch a
rocket? but let's not focus on one technological solution.

are we too legislated for average joes to get into space and start
generating revenue?
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Old April 10th 08, 03:14 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Eric Chomko[_2_]
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Default what would make open source space exploration work?

On Apr 9, 4:02*pm, zfolwick wrote:
I think the biggest problem with an open source space exploration
policy is legistlation and political will. *(in America at least)

isn't there a hobbyist limit on the height that you can launch a
rocket? *but let's not focus on one technological solution.

are we too legislated for average joes to get into space and start
generating revenue?


Wouldn't you be a tad concerned if Osama bin Laden and his ilk decided
to become "space hobbyists"?
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Old April 10th 08, 08:26 PM posted to sci.space.policy
zfolwick
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On Apr 10, 7:14*am, Eric Chomko wrote:
On Apr 9, 4:02*pm, zfolwick wrote:

I think the biggest problem with an open source space exploration
policy is legistlation and political will. *(in America at least)


isn't there a hobbyist limit on the height that you can launch a
rocket? *but let's not focus on one technological solution.


are we too legislated for average joes to get into space and start
generating revenue?


Wouldn't you be a tad concerned if Osama bin Laden and his ilk decided
to become "space hobbyists"?




Good point. Staunch science so that one or two nutjobs feel more
powerless.

if that's the general concensus then we truly are in the dark ages.
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Old April 10th 08, 08:39 PM posted to sci.space.policy
Eric Chomko[_2_]
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Default what would make open source space exploration work?

On Apr 10, 3:26*pm, zfolwick wrote:
On Apr 10, 7:14*am, Eric Chomko wrote:

On Apr 9, 4:02*pm, zfolwick wrote:


I think the biggest problem with an open source space exploration
policy is legistlation and political will. *(in America at least)


isn't there a hobbyist limit on the height that you can launch a
rocket? *but let's not focus on one technological solution.


are we too legislated for average joes to get into space and start
generating revenue?


Wouldn't you be a tad concerned if Osama bin Laden and his ilk decided
to become "space hobbyists"?


Good point. * Staunch science so that one or two nutjobs feel more
powerless.

if that's the general concensus then we truly are in the dark ages.


The point is that like security in air ports, though the avaiation
industry is booming, still exists. We can't get completely away from
regulating, or having open source like computer software, when it
comes to launching rockets. That said I do support commercial
spaceflight and believe that we are headed toward it if not at a
snail's pace, based upon results.
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Old April 10th 08, 08:45 PM posted to sci.space.policy
American
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Default what would make open source space exploration work?

On Apr 10, 3:26*pm, zfolwick wrote:
On Apr 10, 7:14*am, Eric Chomko wrote:

On Apr 9, 4:02*pm, zfolwick wrote:


I think the biggest problem with an open source space exploration
policy is legistlation and political will. *(in America at least)


isn't there a hobbyist limit on the height that you can launch a
rocket? *but let's not focus on one technological solution.


are we too legislated for average joes to get into space and start
generating revenue?


Wouldn't you be a tad concerned if Osama bin Laden and his ilk decided
to become "space hobbyists"?


Good point. * Staunch science so that one or two nutjobs feel more
powerless.

if that's the general concensus then we truly are in the dark ages.


Go shrivel like the witches that you are and hide in a corner. The
only fear is fear itself, and there's no race here for cowards. Move,
or get out of the way. Let the Bin Ladens of the world have it out
with your kind. While your busy building your security prisons, and
listening to the big dog barking orders in your ear, I'll be sipping
daquiris on the French Riviera - because as far as I'm concerned,
that's what it will take for a national awakening - a mass exodus from
Sparta.

America
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Old April 10th 08, 08:47 PM posted to sci.space.policy
American
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Default what would make open source space exploration work?

On Apr 10, 3:26*pm, zfolwick wrote:
On Apr 10, 7:14*am, Eric Chomko wrote:

On Apr 9, 4:02*pm, zfolwick wrote:


I think the biggest problem with an open source space exploration
policy is legistlation and political will. *(in America at least)


isn't there a hobbyist limit on the height that you can launch a
rocket? *but let's not focus on one technological solution.


are we too legislated for average joes to get into space and start
generating revenue?


Wouldn't you be a tad concerned if Osama bin Laden and his ilk decided
to become "space hobbyists"?


Good point. * Staunch science so that one or two nutjobs feel more
powerless.

if that's the general concensus then we truly are in the dark ages.


Go shrivel like the witches that you are and hide in a corner. The
only fear is fear itself, and there's no race here for cowards. Move,
or get out of the way. Let the Bin Ladens of the world have it out
with your kind. While your busy building your security prisons, and
listening to the big dog barking orders in your ear, I'll be sipping
daquiris on the French Riviera - because as far as I'm concerned,
that's what it will take for a national awakening - a mass exodus from
Sparta.

American
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Old April 11th 08, 12:37 AM posted to sci.space.policy
Eric Chomko[_2_]
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Default what would make open source space exploration work?

On Apr 10, 3:47*pm, American wrote:
On Apr 10, 3:26*pm, zfolwick wrote:





On Apr 10, 7:14*am, Eric Chomko wrote:


On Apr 9, 4:02*pm, zfolwick wrote:


I think the biggest problem with an open source space exploration
policy is legistlation and political will. *(in America at least)


isn't there a hobbyist limit on the height that you can launch a
rocket? *but let's not focus on one technological solution.


are we too legislated for average joes to get into space and start
generating revenue?


Wouldn't you be a tad concerned if Osama bin Laden and his ilk decided
to become "space hobbyists"?


Good point. * Staunch science so that one or two nutjobs feel more
powerless.


if that's the general concensus then we truly are in the dark ages.


Go shrivel like the witches that you are and hide in a corner. The
only fear is fear itself, and there's no race here for cowards. Move,
or get out of the way. Let the Bin Ladens of the world have it out
with your kind. While your busy building your security prisons, and
listening to the big dog barking orders in your ear, I'll be sipping
daquiris on the French Riviera - because as far as I'm concerned,
that's what it will take for a national awakening - a mass exodus from
Sparta.


If you were truly rich enough to drink daquiris on the French Riviera
you wouldn't be posting to s.s.p or even concerned about it.

And I believe you meant to say, "lead, follow or get out of the way!"

Eric
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Old April 11th 08, 04:37 AM posted to sci.space.policy
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Default what would make open source space exploration work?

On Apr 9, 4:02*pm, zfolwick wrote:
are we too legislated for average joes to get into space and start
generating revenue?



I think the real problem is, now, so far, it's foo tucking expensive.
I know there's all kinds of legislation and in the days when the
Worker's Paradise (the USSR) was striving for world conquest and
enslavement, there was a U.N. treaty prohibiting the private
exploration of space. The world believed the global Soviet propaganda
machine strongly in those days, and it still does by residuals. To
wit, in those days, a private West German company was set up: OTRAG.
It was all set for private satellite launching from an African country
(I forget which, at the moment). But good socialists all over Africa
got together and pressured that government to not work with this
capitalist enterprise, though it would have brought money to that
country's economy, if OTRAG's plan had worked.

So, socialism has been squelching private/commerical space
exploration. But that is changing, now that totalitarianism has landed
on "history's trash heap of lies." But there' a NEW problem, which a
NASA official has stated: 'These new start up companies underestimate
the daunting technical challenges.'

As things progress, government suppression of private/commercial space
will wane. But the daunting technical challenges remain a considerable
barrier.
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Old April 12th 08, 02:31 AM posted to sci.space.policy
zfolwick
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Default what would make open source space exploration work?

On Apr 10, 12:47*pm, American wrote:
On Apr 10, 3:26*pm, zfolwick wrote:





On Apr 10, 7:14*am, Eric Chomko wrote:


On Apr 9, 4:02*pm, zfolwick wrote:


I think the biggest problem with an open source space exploration
policy is legistlation and political will. *(in America at least)


isn't there a hobbyist limit on the height that you can launch a
rocket? *but let's not focus on one technological solution.


are we too legislated for average joes to get into space and start
generating revenue?


Wouldn't you be a tad concerned if Osama bin Laden and his ilk decided
to become "space hobbyists"?


Good point. * Staunch science so that one or two nutjobs feel more
powerless.


if that's the general concensus then we truly are in the dark ages.


Go shrivel like the witches that you are and hide in a corner. The
only fear is fear itself, and there's no race here for cowards. Move,
or get out of the way. Let the Bin Ladens of the world have it out
with your kind. While your busy building your security prisons, and
listening to the big dog barking orders in your ear, I'll be sipping
daquiris on the French Riviera - because as far as I'm concerned,
that's what it will take for a national awakening - a mass exodus from
Sparta.

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you scare me. Are you mentally stable?
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Old April 12th 08, 02:13 PM posted to sci.space.policy
American
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Default what would make open source space exploration work?

On Apr 11, 9:31*pm, zfolwick wrote:
On Apr 10, 12:47*pm, American wrote:



On Apr 10, 3:26*pm, zfolwick wrote:


On Apr 10, 7:14*am, Eric Chomko wrote:


On Apr 9, 4:02*pm, zfolwick wrote:


I think the biggest problem with an open source space exploration
policy is legistlation and political will. *(in America at least)


isn't there a hobbyist limit on the height that you can launch a
rocket? *but let's not focus on one technological solution.


are we too legislated for average joes to get into space and start
generating revenue?


Wouldn't you be a tad concerned if Osama bin Laden and his ilk decided
to become "space hobbyists"?


Good point. * Staunch science so that one or two nutjobs feel more
powerless.


if that's the general concensus then we truly are in the dark ages.


Go shrivel like the witches that you are and hide in a corner. The
only fear is fear itself, and there's no race here for cowards. Move,
or get out of the way. Let the Bin Ladens of the world have it out
with your kind. While your busy building your security prisons, and
listening to the big dog barking orders in your ear, I'll be sipping
daquiris on the French Riviera - because as far as I'm concerned,
that's what it will take for a national awakening - a mass exodus from
Sparta.


American- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


you scare me. *Are you mentally stable?


The problem with "open source" is your definition of "average joes".
Open source means that anyone and everyone has access to the code, if
"they" so desire. Usually, the "they" are the same people that write
the code, because no one else understands the language being used.

When some outside party comes along and sees that there is a certain
code that is available FREE (because its open source) they can be
tricked into believing that the "code" only does what they wanted when
they got it "on the cheap". The code then becomes the source code
developer's hacker's delight, because some of the subroutines built
into the code (that most people don't read anyway) can be keyloggers,
email loggers, etc., wreaking havok on some unsuspecting party's
private enterprise.

I don't trust "open source" anything. Never have. I'll go for tried,
true, and tested for just a few dollars more if I have to.

There's too many sharks in the water for "open source".

If that's mentally unbalanced, then I'm retarded.

American
 




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