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Problems with Problems With The Orion Spacecraft #6 - Air Force Funding
"Air Force was approached, it repeatedly refused to fund Orion..." -
POS http://www.alternatehistory.com/gate...nProblems.html -- "we decided ... to stick with the Air Force" - Freeman Dyson - Project Orion page 199 "Air force physicists in Alberquerque were enthusiastic supporters from the beginning and stayed with Orion till the end. -Project Orion page 198 http://spacebombardment.blogspot.com...-orion_05.html ------------- Index of problems with problems with The Orion Spacecraft http://spacebombardment.blogspot.com...-with-pos.html |
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In article . com,
bombardmentforce wrote: "Air Force was approached, it repeatedly refused to fund Orion..." - http://www.alternatehistory.com/gate...nProblems.html "we decided ... to stick with the Air Force" - Freeman Dyson - Project Orion page 199 "Air force physicists in Alberquerque were enthusiastic supporters from the beginning and stayed with Orion till the end. -Project Orion page 198 You know, this is pretty pitiful -- is this quibbling and semantic hairsplitting and quotation out of context really the best you can do? The three quotes are talking about different things: the first is talking about large-scale funding for full development (repeatedly refused), the second about a trickle of ARPA/USAF funding for small studies (provided, for a while), and the third about USAF researchers with no significant funding authority (indeed, if you actually read that page, the physicists' support is mentioned in the context of explaining that higher levels of the USAF "are so far quite convinced we are crazy"). -- spsystems.net is temporarily off the air; | Henry Spencer mail to henry at zoo.utoronto.ca instead. | |
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"At around that point, US space efforts were reorganized so that all
military projects were funded by the Air Force and all civilian projects by NASA. When the Air Force was approached, it repeatedly refused to fund Orion" The three quotes are talking about different things: the first is talking about large-scale funding for full development I don't see the words 'large scale...full' in the orginal, perhaps Ian could fix this error with his mad writing skilz. I'll throw "Stong Dogs" in here also so I don't have to number it. higher levels of the USAF "are so far quite convinced we are crazy" Not 'higher levels' of USAF, "the military", "higher political levels". We know CINCSAC Power was a supporter and Chief of Staff of the United States Air Force LeMay, the senior uniformed Air Force officer. So "higher" opposition must have been by non Air Force individuals to be derided later. |
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I can't even tell whether "bombardmentforce" is a kook who thinks Orion
could never have worked or a kook who thinks it's the future of space travel. Cambias www.zygotegames.com |
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Kelly McDonald wrote:
"Air Force was approached, it repeatedly refused to fund Orion..." - http://www.alternatehistory.com/gate...nProblems.html an empty room. The empty part of the room likes lies, the good part of the room likes Truth. |
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Camdias
I can't even tell whether "bombardmentforce" ... thinks Orion could never have worked or ... thinks it's the future of space travel. http://spacebombardment.blogspot.com/ Thesis:"Reasons why we should build a modern version of the Deep Space Bombardment Force. To replace our current atomic arsenal and to grasp the next American Frontier." Can you hear me now? |
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Yes. And you share a problem with a great many fanatics: there's a
difference between people not hearing you and people not agreeing with you. For instance, myself. I wouldn't exist had it not been for the atomic weapons that ended World War II, I'm second to none in my enthusiasm for space exploration, and I've always thought radiation is overrated as a hazard. But I still don't think orbital nukes, or lunar ones, or space crowbars o'doom, are a good idea. The current strategic environment doesn't really require anything like that. Repeating your message won't convince me, either. I understand what you're saying, I just don't agree with you. And for the record, my name is... Cambias www.zygotegames.com |
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In article . com, Cambias
says... I can't even tell whether "bombardmentforce" is a kook who thinks Orion could never have worked or a kook who thinks it's the future of space travel. He is a Type II Kook, in your scheme. And he's got it dialed to eleven. -- *John Schilling * "Anything worth doing, * *Member:AIAA,NRA,ACLU,SAS,LP * is worth doing for money" * *Chief Scientist & General Partner * -13th Rule of Acquisition * *White Elephant Research, LLC * "There is no substitute * * for success" * *661-951-9107 or 661-275-6795 * -58th Rule of Acquisition * |
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I can't even tell
A people not hearing you B people not agreeing with you. Is you A or is you B? second to none in my enthusiasm for space exploration Second to Ulam, Dyson, Taylor, Sakharov, Power, LeMay, thousands of others... and now me. The current strategic environment doesn't really require The current stategic environment is unstable http://spacebombardment.blogspot.com...07/motive.html How many FOBS would a mullah build if a mullah could build FOBS? Repeating your message You claimed you hadn't ever head it. "I can't even tell " I understand what you're saying I can't even tell my name is I can't even tell if you name is "this" or if it is "that". |
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