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Old June 10th 12, 05:54 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.math
Koobee Wublee
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On Jun 9, 4:54 am, Tom Roberts wrote:
On 6/8/12 6/8/12 10:07 PM, guskz wrote:


From your reply Tom, there's 2 possibilities: 1. You're pride is too high,
that you forgot the origins of Twin Paradox is time dilation (look it up). 2.
or newer concepts for the Twin Paradox shows that the use of time dilation
alone to explain it, is insufficient....


Attempting to argue from exhaustive enumeration nearly always fails, because you
forgot some possibility. Here you forgot the actual reason:


Taking away your mystified proper time, you are totally naked.
shrug

3. When the twin paradox was initially discussed in terms of "time dilation", SR
had not been fully understood, and the terminology used was not really
applicable. We now know better, as I said above.


Nonsense. History is what actually happened and not what you decide
what should have happened to justify your mysticism. After all, did
you not mumble something about not interested in history and better
leaving history for historians to sort it out? Tom, be a gentleman
instead of talking with forked tongue. Gee! shrug

Talking about acceleration shows that I know a tiny bit more then just the
general basic short story on Time dilation.


If you want answers from someone, it's not a good idea to use overly insulting
language. Grow up!


What insult are you talking about? Please note that exposing your
mysticism should not be an insult but a salvation for you. Tom, you
are behaving like a follower of pagan beliefs. Aren’t you a
professor? If so, please start to address the questions raised
instead of weaseling yourself out with lame excuses. Please! [1]
shrug

Note [1]: If you are conveniently forgetting about what the questions
are raised to sharply poking at the center of your zealous beliefs,
they can be repeated for the n’th time for you. Of course, as a
professor, you can continue to play dumb and play aloofness. shrug


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Old June 10th 12, 01:48 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.math
Marvin the Martian
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On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:54:39 -0700, Koobee Wublee wrote:

shrug


Ah. More proof to the axiom that you're not missing anything if you kill
file everyone who ends every comment with a "shrug".

We would all do better to just killfile these ignorant people who
constantly rant about SR and pollute the newsgroups.
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Old June 11th 12, 05:41 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.math
Koobee Wublee
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On Jun 10, 5:48 am, Marvin the Martian wrote:
On Sat, 09 Jun 2012 21:54:39, Koobee Wublee wrote:
On Jun 9, 4:54 am, Tom Roberts wrote:


Attempting to argue from exhaustive enumeration nearly always fails,
because you forgot some possibility. Here you forgot the actual
reason:


Taking away your mystified proper time, you are totally naked.
shrug


3. When the twin paradox was initially discussed in terms of "time
dilation", SR had not been fully understood, and the terminology
used was not really applicable. We now know better, as I said above.


Nonsense. History is what actually happened and not what you decide
what should have happened to justify your mysticism. After all, did
you not mumble something about not interested in history and better
leaving history for historians to sort it out? Tom, be a gentleman
instead of talking with forked tongue. Gee! shrug


If you want answers from someone, it's not a good idea to use overly
insulting language. Grow up!


What insult are you talking about? Please note that exposing your
mysticism should not be an insult but a salvation for you. Tom, you
are behaving like a follower of pagan beliefs. Aren’t you a
professor? If so, please start to address the questions raised
instead of weaseling yourself out with lame excuses. Please! [1]
shrug


Note [1]: If you are conveniently forgetting about what the questions
are raised to sharply poking at the center of your zealous beliefs,
they can be repeated for the n’th time for you. Of course, as a
professor, you can continue to play dumb and play aloofness. shrug


Ah. More proof to the axiom that you're not missing anything if you kill
file everyone who ends every comment with a "shrug".


Idiot! To an ostrich, it is not missing out on anything if burying
its tiny head in a hole on the ground. Idiot^2! Marvin the idiot
Martian thinks it can win any argument by burying its microscopic
brain in a douche bag. Idiot^3! shrug

We would all do better to just killfile these ignorant people who
constantly rant about SR and pollute the newsgroups.


Marvin the idiot Martian who thinks scholars in the future would not
go back to read these posts as historic/archeological records after SR
and GR are finally falsified is an idiot^4! shrug

Gee, any amoeba is more intelligent than Marvin the idiot Martian will
even hope to evolve into (idiot^5)! shrug
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Old June 13th 12, 05:53 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,sci.astro,sci.math
1treePetrifiedForestLane
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ah, see the botlike behavior:
Please! shrug

you may ahve found the problem with the orignal gedanken
on the twin "paradox," but, anyway,
it really amounts to the fact that angular momenta
of the atoms are also limited by the speed of light
-- not its velocity --
going both ways in the electronic orbits,
depending upon their orientation
to tthe direction of slower-than-light travel.

instead of weaseling yourself out with lame excuses. *Please! *[1]
shrug

 




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