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Could Dragon have been built 20 years sooner?



 
 
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Old June 1st 12, 05:56 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,sci.physics,rec.arts.sf.science
Bob Haller
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Default Could Dragon have been built 20 years sooner?


I could well have been built 30 years later, or not at all,
nobody would miss it.


might be far less future space activity if space X never existed

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Old June 1st 12, 10:40 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,sci.physics,rec.arts.sf.science
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Default Could Dragon have been built 20 years sooner?

"Helmut Wabnig" [email protected] --- -.dotat wrote:
I could well have been built 30 years later,
or not at all, nobody would miss it.

hanson wrote:
Awww, Wabie, even when you were just 50,
nobody missed you? That's a shame, isn't it.
But, there are a lot of geriatrics here in these
NGs that share your predicament and fate.
Thanks for the laughs, though... ahahahanson
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Old June 2nd 12, 01:02 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,sci.physics,rec.arts.sf.science
Brad Guth[_3_]
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On May 29, 8:39*am, Robert Clark wrote:
On May 25, 3:33*pm, bob haller wrote:

was the breakthru just a awesome idea? or breakthus in materials
engines etc that made it possible?


*Yes, the Falcon 9 and Dragon could have been built even 30 years ago.
There is nothing particularly innovative about their engines or
stages. They both use methods known about since the 1970's.

* *Bob Clark


That's exactly true, as is the truth for the ongoing might of our
military industrial complex that's still in charge regardless of who
we elect or appoint.

Actually, as of 40 years ago we could have establish the EML1 with a
substantial platform of science instruments, and later having parked
our initial space station for roughly 10% the true all-inclusive cost
of one Apollo mission.

We also should have been dealing with Venus as of more than a decade
ago.

“Guth Venus” 1:1, plus 10x resample/enlargement of the area in
question:
https://picasaweb.google.com/1027362...79402364691314
Go right ahead and tell us whatever you can manage to interpret,
because if you accept other mainstream media imaging obtained from
public funded science that’s of extensively photoshopped, stacked and
color/hue saturation modified images that our NASA plus the likes of
JPL and ASU gets mainstream published and even into textbooks all the
time, then interpreting this one should be quite easy.

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Old June 2nd 12, 01:04 PM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,sci.physics,rec.arts.sf.science
Brad Guth[_3_]
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Default Could Dragon have been built 20 years sooner?

On May 29, 9:40*am, "hanson" wrote:
"Robert Clark" wrote:

bob haller wrote:
was the breakthru just a awesome idea? or breakthus in
materials engines etc that made it possible?


Bob Clark wrote:

Yes, the Falcon 9 and Dragon could have been built
even 30 years ago.
There is nothing particularly innovative about their
engines or stages. They both use methods known
about since the 1970's.

hanson wrote:

Yeah, there are very few new material/tech novos.
It's still all old Penemuende Nazi Rocket Technology,
AND...
if you guys have ever done any biz with NASA
or worked there, it should be clear to you that the
breakthrough for Space-X etc is their MO NOT
to bloat themselves with nepotistic, corrupt and
bizarre bureaucracies which do exist in NASA &
& other Govt Agencies, & especially in EPA.


Bloating at the expense and demise of others is so redneck American,
second only to Americans telling its republic lies.
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Old June 4th 12, 05:33 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,sci.physics,rec.arts.sf.science
hanson
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Default Could Dragon have been built 20 years sooner?


"Brad Guth" wrote:
"hanson" wrote:
"Robert Clark" wrote:

bob haller wrote:
was the breakthru just a awesome idea? or breakthus in
materials engines etc that made it possible?


Bob Clark wrote:
Yes, the Falcon 9 and Dragon could have been built
even 30 years ago.
There is nothing particularly innovative about their
engines or stages. They both use methods known
about since the 1970's.

hanson wrote:

[Added: ... Now SpaceX has successfully completed
it first cargo delivery to ISS & returned the Dragon-cap.
Kudos. In today's "60 Minutes" CEO Elon Musk said
that virtually all tech was "inherited" from NASA. Only
the architecture/design & e-stuff was "upgraded"]
Yeah, there are very few new material/tech novos.
It's still all old Penemuende Nazi Rocket Technology,
AND...
if you guys have ever done any biz with NASA
or worked there, it should be clear to you that the
breakthrough for Space-X etc is their MO NOT
to bloat themselves with nepotistic, corrupt and
bizarre bureaucracies which do exist in NASA &
& other Govt Agencies, & especially in EPA.

Gay, Black Brad Guth wrote:
Bloating at the expense and demise of others is so
redneck American, second only to Americans telling
its republic lies.

hanson wrote:
"Bloating"? So, now it's your rnA-R & not any longer
your "faith based ZNR atheists" that are responsible
for your "Bloating", you sorry obesely bloated gay
Black Ass. Gayload-Guth, thanks for the laughs...
ahahahanson
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Old June 6th 12, 08:02 AM posted to sci.space.policy,sci.astro,sci.physics,rec.arts.sf.science
Brad Guth[_3_]
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On Jun 3, 9:33*pm, "hanson" wrote:
"Brad Guth" wrote:

Gay, Black Brad Guth wrote:
Bloating at the expense and demise of others is so
redneck American, second only to Americans telling
its republic lies.

hanson wrote:

"Bloating"? So, now it's your rnA-R & not any longer
your "faith based ZNR atheists" that are responsible
for your "Bloating", you sorry obesely bloated gay
Black Ass. *Gayload-Guth, thanks for the laughs...
ahahahanson


How is this helping?

Are you saying that government agency bloating is a good thing?

What bloated government agency are you in charge of?
 




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