More than tides affecting the moons distance?

In sci.astro message ,
Sat, 22 Sep 2007 06:20:24, Androcles posted:

"Dr J R Stockton" wrote in message
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: In sci.astro message ,
: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:46:15, Androcles posted:
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: The Moon doesn't orbit the Earth, it orbits a common barycentre.
:
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: The Moon actually orbits the Sun,

Over-trimmed. Continued : " somewhat perturbed by the Earth. The
Moon's path is everywhere concave towards the Sun.".

No, the Moon orbits a barycentre it shares with the Sun.

The difference between the Moon's actual path and the best-fit ellipse
around either the Sun's centre, the Sun-Moon barycentre, or the system
barycentre is substantially greater than the distances between any pair
of those centres. That refutes your assertion.

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"Dr J R Stockton" wrote in message
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: In sci.astro message ,
: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 06:20:24, Androcles posted:
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: "Dr J R Stockton" wrote in message
: . invalid...
: : In sci.astro message
,
: : Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:46:15, Androcles
posted:
: :
: : The Moon doesn't orbit the Earth, it orbits a common barycentre.
: :
: :
: : The Moon actually orbits the Sun,
:
: Over-trimmed.

Yes, I agree, and you shouldn't do it, ESPECIALLY after I'd told
the OP that very same thing, rendering your entire post to me obsolete.

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light to travel from A to B equals the "time" it requires
to travel from B to A' because I SAY SO and you have to
agree because I'm the great genius, STOOOPID, don't you
dare question it. -- Rabbi Albert Einstein

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'we establish by definition that the "time" required by
light to travel from A to B doesn't equal the "time" it requires
to travel from B to A in the stationary system, obviously.' --
Heretic Jan Bielawski, assistant light-bulb changer.

Ref: ups.com


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If such a thing were actually observed, reliably and reproducibly, then
relativity would immediately need a major overhaul if not a complete
replacement." -- Humpty Roberts.

Rabbi Albert Einstein in 1895 failed an examination that would
have allowed him to study for a diploma as an electrical engineer
at the Eidgenössische Technische Hochschule in Zurich
(couldn't even pass the SATs).

According to Phuckwit Duck it was geography and history that Einstein
failed on, as if Eidgenössische Technische Hochschule would give a
damn. That tells you the lengths these lying *******s will go to to
protect their tin god, but its always a laugh when they slip up.
Trolls, the lot of them.

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irrelevant." -- Humpty Roberts.

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 06:20:24 GMT, "Androcles"
wrote:

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|"Dr J R Stockton" wrote in message
.invalid...
|: In sci.astro message ,
|: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:46:15, Androcles posted:
|:
|: The Moon doesn't orbit the Earth, it orbits a common barycentre.
|:
|:
|: The Moon actually orbits the Sun,
|
|No, the Moon orbits a barycentre it shares with the Sun.
|

It also has a barycentre G push/slipstream, with Mars/eros-demos/and
the counter rotated Venus....

The moon's orbit has consistently been stable with the earth for
some 35 billion years....

Tides don't affect the moon's distance, the moon affect the tides at
these "Solar+" Barycentre distances..

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On Sep 23, 7:15 am, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 06:20:24 GMT, "Androcles"
wrote:

|
|"Dr J R Stockton" wrote in message
.invalid...
|: In sci.astro message ,
|: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:46:15, Androcles posted:
|:
|: The Moon doesn't orbit the Earth, it orbits a common barycentre.
|:
|:
|: The Moon actually orbits the Sun,
|
|No, the Moon orbits a barycentre it shares with the Sun.
|

It also has a barycentre G push/slipstream, with Mars/eros-demos/and
the counter rotated Venus....

The moon's orbit has consistently been stable with the earth for
some 35 billion years....

Tides don't affect the moon's distance, the moon affect the tides at
these "Solar+" Barycentre distances..

--
Triad Productions-Fantalla®~EZine~ParaNovel
National Association of Assault Research
(http://tarbitch.balder.prohosting.com/htmlconc.html)

When the usenet was a lot younger and the debates were genuinely good
reading * it was possible to see a turnaround in the type of reasoning
you engage in or rather an end to the intelectual descent which
strongly took hold in the early 20th century.The arguments for
terrestrial ballistics applied to planetary motion are geometric in
nature and the fact that at the core of Newton's framework beats an
astrological heart is hardly consolation for those who sought a means
to escape it.

* http://groups.google.ie/group/sci.ph...776a56b861cd02

People like Petr Beckmann are scarce on the ground now and although I
doubt if he could wade through the geometric arguments of a
heliocentric astronomer,at least he knew that the ground where all
this gets thrashed out remains in the realm of geometry -


" I challenge anyone to quote a single, solitary place where Newton in
the
Principia or elsewhere said F=ma. He was much too careful a man to
assume
the constancy of mass and never, but never, went beyond F = d(mv)/dt
and
never took the m out of the parenthesis as constant. That was done by
the
guesswork-loving intuitive physicists who lived after him. Of course,
the
Principia are not written in the language of algebra, but of geometry,
but
that is not a relevant point here."
Petr Beckmann