As if the poor, and only the poor, could bail out Wall Street.

"BradGuth" wrote:
"Justin Lewis" Double-A wrote:
Jeffâ–²Relf wrote:

Jeffâ–² wrote:
Yesterday, it was 8 dollars a pound.
Now they charge 36 dollars per pound for their cheapest
rolling tobacco. Â That's how much the tax went up.
Only poor people buy rolling tobacco, so this tax was aimed
at the poor, of course, as if the poor, and only the poor,
could bail out Wall Street

Justin Lewis wrote:
Wow! Â That's an incredible tax increase! .
A 467% price increase! And what was the tax that caused the
Boston Tea Party and the American Revolution?
Somethink like a 2% tax on tea?
Double-A

Brad Guth wrote:
The poor don't need fancy cars, spendy cloths, gorme or kosher food,
10,000 sf housing, full zero-deductible medical coverage, and first
class air travel plus multiple 5-star destination accommodations. So
why of course, with all of their spare pocket loot, instead of blowing
it on Two Buck Chuck they can easily bail out Wall Street.
~ BG

hanson wrote:
In a kinda gauche way, Brad, you have it right. Let me repeat your
tripe, rephrased: "The poor have no fancy cars, housing nor food,
nor do they travel or have pocket money".. yet it is the domineering
rich folks who do put the heaviest tax burden onto the backs of the
poor to bail the Rich ones out.

That has always been that way, at any time in history, and in every
culture that ever existed...
.... and your old friend, Nazi Reichsmarshall and Luftwaffe-Chief
Hermann Goering condensed this human tragedy into the
fewest words when he stated during his interrogation after WWII:

"Why, of course, the people don't want war," Hermann Goering
shrugged. "Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his
life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back
to his farm in one piece?" -- "Voice or no voice, the people can
always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy.
All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and
denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the
country to danger. It works the same in any country."

See, Brad, not only the Rich rely on the meager subsistence
possessions of the poor,.... the fat cats rely on the very lifes of
the poor to make themselves, the Rich, richer...

.... and the other half of these instructions can be read in your
other favorite source of information in:

http://www.jewwatch.com

wherein, neatly compiled, all the accomplishments & achievements
are listed, of how your friends, the Zios, are doing it on the backs
of the poor.

Learn from all that, Brad. No matter which ideology you belong to,
make sure that you are rolling in the right circles... I mentioned
the above 2 examples because you do always refer to Zio-Nazis
in your posts. .... ahahahaha... ahahaha... ahahahanson

On Apr 2, 10:33*am, "hanson" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote:

"Justin Lewis" *Double-A wrote: Jeffâ–²Relf wrote:

Jeffâ–² wrote:

Yesterday, it was 8 dollars a pound.
Now they charge 36 dollars per pound for their cheapest
rolling tobacco. Â That's how much the tax went up.
Only poor people buy rolling tobacco, so this tax was aimed
at the poor, of course, as if the poor, and only the poor,
could bail out Wall Street

Justin Lewis wrote:

*Wow! Â That's an incredible tax increase! .
A 467% price increase! *And what was the tax that caused the
Boston Tea Party and the American Revolution?
Somethink like a 2% tax on tea?
*Double-A

Brad Guth wrote:

The poor don't need fancy cars, spendy cloths, gorme or kosher food,
10,000 sf housing, full zero-deductible medical coverage, and first
class air travel plus multiple 5-star destination accommodations. *So
why of course, with all of their spare pocket loot, instead of blowing
it on Two Buck Chuck they can easily bail out Wall Street.
~ BG

hanson wrote:

In a kinda gauche way, Brad, you have it right. Let me repeat your
tripe, rephrased: "The poor have no fancy cars, housing nor food,
nor do they travel or have pocket money".. yet it is the domineering
rich folks who do put the heaviest tax burden onto the backs of the
poor to bail the Rich ones out.

That has always been that way, at any time in history, and in every
culture that ever existed...
... and your old friend, Nazi Reichsmarshall and Luftwaffe-Chief
Hermann *Goering *condensed this human tragedy into the
fewest words when he stated during his interrogation after WWII:

"Why, of course, the people don't want war," Hermann Goering
shrugged. "Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his
life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back
to his farm in one piece?" *-- "Voice or no voice, the people can
always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy.
All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and
denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the
country to danger. It works the same in any country."

See, Brad, not only the Rich rely on the meager subsistence
possessions of the poor,.... the fat cats rely on the very lifes of
the poor to make themselves, the Rich, richer...

... and the other half of these instructions can be read in your
other favorite source of information in:

http://www.jewwatch.com

wherein, neatly compiled, all the accomplishments & achievements
are listed, of how your friends, the Zios, are doing it on the backs
of the poor.

Learn from all that, Brad. No matter which ideology you belong to,
make sure that you are rolling in the right circles... I mentioned
the above 2 examples because you do always refer to Zio-Nazis
in your posts. .... ahahahaha... ahahaha... ahahahanson

Will, gee whiz, guess we certainly wouldn't want to tax the most godly
rich and powerful on any kind of blatantly obvious luxury taxes, so
that only leaves us with having to continually nail the middle class
and poor.

Not even including our SEC approved Ponzi madoff (because most
billionaires pay little if any tax), the year 2007 had nearly 10
million tax returns reporting more than a million in taxable income
(that's after tax avoidance cheating plus considerable deductions and
their offshore hiding of otherwise taxable incomes), and 2008 it's
only down to 6.7 million of those returns above one million in taxable
income. So, whatever we do, lets not bother those too busy counting
all of their loot with any kinds of clearly luxury tax issues, instead
tax all other consumers that have lost or soon to be losing their
jobs, medical benefits, retirements, homes and even busting up
families.

Is there such a thing as government without its faith-based puppet
masters?

~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”

Who'sÂ*Justin Lewis and what makes you think he's Double-A ?

I'd buy Capri superSlims if I could but it's 9 dollars per pack.
Smokers like me roll our own because we're poor.

Voters think they'll get more money from us, they're just wrong.
Any herb will do.

"BradGuth" wrote:
"hanson" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote:
"Justin Lewis" Double-A wrote:
Jeffâ–²Relf wrote:

condensed prior tripe into he

http://tinyurl.com/cnfbnd

hanson wrote:
In a kinda gauche way, Brad, you have it right. Let me repeat your
tripe, rephrased: "The poor have no fancy cars, housing nor food,
nor do they travel or have pocket money".. yet it is the domineering
rich folks who do put the heaviest tax burden onto the backs of the
poor to bail the Rich ones out.

That has always been that way, at any time in history, and in every
culture that ever existed...
.... and your old friend, Nazi Reichsmarshall and Luftwaffe-Chief
Hermann Goering condensed this human tragedy into the
fewest words when he stated during his interrogation after WWII:

"Why, of course, the people don't want war," Hermann Goering
shrugged. "Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his
life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back
to his farm in one piece?" -- "Voice or no voice, the people can
always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy.
All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and
denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the
country to danger. It works the same in any country."

See, Brad, not only the Rich rely on the meager subsistence
possessions of the poor,.... the fat cats rely on the very lifes of
the poor to make themselves, the Rich, richer...

.... and the other half of these instructions can be read in your
other favorite source of information in:

http://www.jewwatch.com

wherein, neatly compiled, all the accomplishments & achievements
are listed, of how your friends, the Zios, are doing it on the backs
of the poor.

Learn from all that, Brad. No matter which ideology you belong to,
make sure that you are rolling in the right circles... I mentioned
the above 2 examples because you do always refer to Zio-Nazis
in your posts. .... ahahahaha... ahahaha... ahahahanson

Brad wrote:
Will, gee whiz, guess we certainly wouldn't want to tax the most godly
rich and powerful on any kind of blatantly obvious luxury taxes, so
that only leaves us with having to continually nail the middle class
and poor.

hanson wrote:
....ahahaha... What is that "we" ****, Brad? YOU have as much
influence over what and who is taxed as does a door knob.
You gotta roll in the right circles and then, MAYBE, you can
buy the influence to influence the tax system... You did not
understand my post above, did you?.... ahahahaha...

Brad wrote:
Not even including our SEC approved Ponzi madoff (because most
billionaires pay little if any tax), the year 2007 had nearly 10
million tax returns reporting more than a million in taxable income
(that's after tax avoidance cheating plus considerable deductions and
their offshore hiding of otherwise taxable incomes), and 2008 it's
only down to 6.7 million of those returns above one million in taxable
income. So, whatever we do, lets not bother those too busy counting
all of their loot with any kinds of clearly luxury tax issues, instead
tax all other consumers that have lost or soon to be losing their
jobs, medical benefits, retirements, homes and even busting up
families.

hanson wrote:
....ahahaha... What is that "we" ****, Brad? YOU have as much
influence over what and who is taxed as does a door knob.
You gotta roll in the right circles and then, MAYBE, you can
buy the influence to influence the tax system... You did not
understand my post above, did you?.... ahahahaha...

Brad wrote:
Is there such a thing as government without its faith-based puppet
masters?

hanson wrote:
No, there are no such governments. There will always be those
CABALS that make the policy decisions. If they are not faith-based
(you of course meant the Zios... ahaha..) then other interest groups
will take over,... like the enviros or the commies or some other
kind of utopian fanatics... and..

NO, IN PRINCIPAL, it will not happen cuz all societies in nature
are hierarchical.

But, YES, IN PRINCIPAL, it could happen, IF you outsmart some
few billion years of evolution. But if you can't then the next best thing
for you to do is to roll into right circles along with and in the confines
of the cabal of your choice. Do that, Brad, and you may get lucky to
be on the receiving end and rejoice instead of shedding croc-tears.

Till then, thanks for the laughs... ahahahaha... ahahahahanson

On Apr 2, 2:00 pm, "hanson" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote:
"hanson" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote:
"Justin Lewis" Double-A wrote:
Jeff$B"%(BRelf wrote:

condensed prior tripe into he

http://tinyurl.com/cnfbnd

hanson wrote:

In a kinda gauche way, Brad, you have it right. Let me repeat your
tripe, rephrased: "The poor have no fancy cars, housing nor food,
nor do they travel or have pocket money".. yet it is the domineering
rich folks who do put the heaviest tax burden onto the backs of the
poor to bail the Rich ones out.

That has always been that way, at any time in history, and in every
culture that ever existed...
... and your old friend, Nazi Reichsmarshall and Luftwaffe-Chief
Hermann Goering condensed this human tragedy into the
fewest words when he stated during his interrogation after WWII:

"Why, of course, the people don't want war," Hermann Goering
shrugged. "Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his
life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back
to his farm in one piece?" -- "Voice or no voice, the people can
always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy.
All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and
denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the
country to danger. It works the same in any country."

See, Brad, not only the Rich rely on the meager subsistence
possessions of the poor,.... the fat cats rely on the very lifes of
the poor to make themselves, the Rich, richer...

... and the other half of these instructions can be read in your
other favorite source of information in:

http://www.jewwatch.com

wherein, neatly compiled, all the accomplishments & achievements
are listed, of how your friends, the Zios, are doing it on the backs
of the poor.

Learn from all that, Brad. No matter which ideology you belong to,
make sure that you are rolling in the right circles... I mentioned
the above 2 examples because you do always refer to Zio-Nazis
in your posts. .... ahahahaha... ahahaha... ahahahanson

Brad wrote:

Will, gee whiz, guess we certainly wouldn't want to tax the most godly
rich and powerful on any kind of blatantly obvious luxury taxes, so
that only leaves us with having to continually nail the middle class
and poor.

hanson wrote:

...ahahaha... What is that "we" ****, Brad? YOU have as much
influence over what and who is taxed as does a door knob.
You gotta roll in the right circles and then, MAYBE, you can
buy the influence to influence the tax system... You did not
understand my post above, did you?.... ahahahaha...

Brad wrote:

Not even including our SEC approved Ponzi madoff (because most
billionaires pay little if any tax), the year 2007 had nearly 10
million tax returns reporting more than a million in taxable income
(that's after tax avoidance cheating plus considerable deductions and
their offshore hiding of otherwise taxable incomes), and 2008 it's
only down to 6.7 million of those returns above one million in taxable
income. So, whatever we do, lets not bother those too busy counting
all of their loot with any kinds of clearly luxury tax issues, instead
tax all other consumers that have lost or soon to be losing their
jobs, medical benefits, retirements, homes and even busting up
families.

hanson wrote:

...ahahaha... What is that "we" ****, Brad? YOU have as much
influence over what and who is taxed as does a door knob.
You gotta roll in the right circles and then, MAYBE, you can
buy the influence to influence the tax system... You did not
understand my post above, did you?.... ahahahaha...

Brad wrote:

Is there such a thing as government without its faith-based puppet
masters?

hanson wrote:

No, there are no such governments. There will always be those
CABALS that make the policy decisions. If they are not faith-based
(you of course meant the Zios... ahaha..) then other interest groups
will take over,... like the enviros or the commies or some other
kind of utopian fanatics... and..

NO, IN PRINCIPAL, it will not happen cuz all societies in nature
are hierarchical.

But, YES, IN PRINCIPAL, it could happen, IF you outsmart some
few billion years of evolution. But if you can't then the next best thing
for you to do is to roll into right circles along with and in the confines
of the cabal of your choice. Do that, Brad, and you may get lucky to
be on the receiving end and rejoice instead of shedding croc-tears.

Till then, thanks for the laughs... ahahahaha... ahahahahanson

You and William Mook obviously have no problems or remorse whatsoever
with those 10 million tax returns of 2007 as having reported a million
or more taxable income. Apparently you'd just as soon have it at 50
million returns reporting a million or greater taxable income.

How about instead, for the rest of us poor folks that didn't quite
make the million+ taxable income bracket, in addition to growing our
own of most everything, and otherwise trading and/or bartering instead
of cash, there's also a better nutritional alternative for everyday
drink.

Instead of spendy milk and cookies, perhaps we poor folks should
switch over to drinking Two-Buck-Chuck (sold by Trader Joe's), as
roughly a liquid fermented form of Soylent Green, that by industry
wine review actually isn't half bad, especially at a tenth the cost of
most other unfortified wines, and less than a forth the cost of milk
and cookies.

~ BG

On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 22:00:33 GMT, "hanson" wrote:

"BradGuth" wrote:
"hanson" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote:
"Justin Lewis" Double-A wrote:
Jeffâ–²Relf wrote:

condensed prior tripe into he

http://tinyurl.com/cnfbnd

hanson wrote:
In a kinda gauche way, Brad, you have it right. Let me repeat your
tripe, rephrased: "The poor have no fancy cars, housing nor food,
nor do they travel or have pocket money".. yet it is the domineering
rich folks who do put the heaviest tax burden onto the backs of the
poor to bail the Rich ones out.

If they taxed every poor and middle class person one dollar per
person, and stacked that in one pile, then taxed every wealthy person
one thousand dollars per person and stacked that cash into another
pile, which pile would be the largest? All to be paid in one dollar
bills, of course.

On Apr 2, 2:20Â*pm, Antares 531 wrote:
On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 22:00:33 GMT, "hanson" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote:
"hanson" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote:
"Justin Lewis" Double-A wrote:
Jeffâ–²Relf wrote:

condensed prior tripe into he

http://tinyurl.com/cnfbnd

hanson wrote:
In a kinda gauche way, Brad, you have it right. Let me repeat your
tripe, rephrased: "The poor have no fancy cars, housing nor food,
nor do they travel or have pocket money".. yet it is the domineering
rich folks who do put the heaviest tax burden onto the backs of the
poor to bail the Rich ones out.

If they taxed every poor and middle class person one dollar per
person, and stacked that in one pile, then taxed every wealthy person
one thousand dollars per person and stacked that cash into another
pile, which pile would be the largest? All to be paid in one dollar
bills, of course.

You known darn good and will that the poor are taxed as well as nickle
dimmed to death multiple times per dollar, and get few if any of those
nifty spending incentive tax breaks.

How may poor folks got their federal and state tax breaks for buying a
Prius?

How many poor folks are getting their fair share of house buying tax
credits?

Should I continue?

~ BG

"Antares 531" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 22:00:33 GMT, "hanson" wrote:

"BradGuth" wrote:
"hanson" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote:
"Justin Lewis" Double-A wrote:
Jeffâ-²Relf wrote:

condensed prior tripe into he

http://tinyurl.com/cnfbnd

hanson wrote:
In a kinda gauche way, Brad, you have it right. Let me repeat your
tripe, rephrased: "The poor have no fancy cars, housing nor food,
nor do they travel or have pocket money".. yet it is the domineering
rich folks who do put the heaviest tax burden onto the backs of the
poor to bail the Rich ones out.

If they taxed every poor and middle class person one dollar per
person, and stacked that in one pile, then taxed every wealthy person
one thousand dollars per person and stacked that cash into another
pile, which pile would be the largest? All to be paid in one dollar
bills, of course.

They do where I live. Gordon Brown thinks he's Robin Hood, rob the rich
and give to the poor. Then the banks go bust and are nationalized. Someday
the prats will wake up to the fact that communism failed.

On Apr 2, 3:57*pm, "Androcles" wrote:
"Antares 531" wrote in message

...



On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 22:00:33 GMT, "hanson" wrote:

"BradGuth" wrote:
"hanson" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote:
"Justin Lewis" Double-A wrote:
Jeffâ-²Relf wrote:

condensed prior tripe into he

http://tinyurl.com/cnfbnd

hanson wrote:
In a kinda gauche way, Brad, you have it right. Let me repeat your
tripe, rephrased: "The poor have no fancy cars, housing nor food,
nor do they travel or have pocket money".. yet it is the domineering
rich folks who do put the heaviest tax burden onto the backs of the
poor to bail the Rich ones out.

If they taxed every poor and middle class person one dollar per
person, and stacked that in one pile, then taxed every wealthy person
one thousand dollars per person and stacked that cash into another
pile, which pile would be the largest? All to be paid in one dollar
bills, of course.

They do where I live. Gordon Brown thinks he's Robin Hood, rob the rich
and give to the poor. Then the banks go bust and are nationalized. Someday
the prats will wake up to the fact that communism failed.

The Zionist Nazis are not happy campers, perhaps because they are
running out of servitude minions to screw.

~ BG

On Fri, 3 Apr 2009 00:57:28 +0100, "Androcles"
wrote:


"Antares 531" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 02 Apr 2009 22:00:33 GMT, "hanson" wrote:

(snip)
In a kinda gauche way, Brad, you have it right. Let me repeat your
tripe, rephrased: "The poor have no fancy cars, housing nor food,
nor do they travel or have pocket money".. yet it is the domineering
rich folks who do put the heaviest tax burden onto the backs of the
poor to bail the Rich ones out.

If they taxed every poor and middle class person one dollar per
person, and stacked that in one pile, then taxed every wealthy person
one thousand dollars per person and stacked that cash into another
pile, which pile would be the largest? All to be paid in one dollar
bills, of course.

They do where I live. Gordon Brown thinks he's Robin Hood, rob the rich
and give to the poor. Then the banks go bust and are nationalized. Someday
the prats will wake up to the fact that communism failed.

I believe this is happening throughout the Western World, and there
may be no turning back. But, it is the history of man. Are we any
wiser? Are we any different? I think not.