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Commentary on the Equation of Time
This commentary is long overdue,although I do not address those who
can't interpret the daily rotation of the Earth directly from a temperature legend and especially the principle of 1461 rotations across 4 orbital circuits it leaves the road clear to consider what the Equation does . The Equation of Time is simply the balance between the variations in a full natural noon cycle and the steady 24 hour cycle,it only really comes into play with the development of clocks and,in tandem with the calendar cycle,adjusts the observation of natural noon to 24 hour clock noon hence AM and PM designations. The Equation of Time cannot be explained by planetary dynamics so worthless junk like the analemma are best left with those who know no better and although the Equation of Time does indicate the relationship between steady daily rotation to the Sun and the unequal orbital turning to the Sun,its format excludes the possibility of expressing the accurate relationship between daily and orbital motions. The easiest way to frame the Equation of Time is to put it in context of the calendar cycle and the rotations in that cycle insofar as it is easier to grasp what the Equation of Time is from the beginning of Mar rather than the civil year of January 1st.For any given year there are 365 rotations to the Sun with the additional rotation of Feb 29 th closing out 4 orbital circuits.As the Equation of Time works off the appearance of natural noon,it was necessary to create a table for the leap year,John Harrison created one but I am unable to find it on the internet. The Equation of Time,in whatever set of tables it is given (Huygen's determination of natural noon is accompanied by entirely subtraction values while others somethings add and sometime subtract) represent the rate of change of the orbital motion of the Earth against the steady rotation and while most years have 365 rotations and 1 year has 366 rotations,this is why the Equation of Time doesn't directly explain daily and orbital dynamics. The Royal Society was once a clearinghouse for information that could be handled in a working way but now it is left to the individual on the Usenet or internet to sort through the issues,I have already spoken at length about the toxic strain of empiricism and its inability to grasp basic astronomical facts and the precepts of the Equation of Time is one of them. So,everyone can check immediately where they stand,that is one of the benefits of referencing the number of rotations to 1 orbital circuit of the Earth,anyone who accepts 365 1/4 rotations can go on to investigating the Equation of Time,anyone who follows 366 1/4 rotations and the analemma junk or similar proposals need not bother. |
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Commentary on the Equation of Time
On Jun 19, 7:31*am, oriel36 wrote:
The Equation of Time cannot be explained by planetary dynamics Eppur... http://www.quadibloc.com/science/eot.htm John Savard |
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Commentary on the Equation of Time
On Jun 19, 7:31*am, oriel36 wrote:
The Equation of Time cannot be explained by planetary dynamics The Equation of Time,in whatever set of tables it is given (Huygen's determination of natural noon is accompanied by entirely subtraction values while others somethings add and sometime subtract) represent the rate of change of the orbital motion of the Earth against the steady rotation and while most years have 365 rotations and 1 year has 366 rotations,this is why the Equation of Time doesn't directly explain daily and orbital dynamics. Eppur... http://www.quadibloc.com/science/eot.htm John Savard |
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Commentary on the Equation of Time
On 06/19/2011 06:31 AM, oriel36 wrote:
This commentary is long overdue,although I do not address those who can't interpret the daily rotation of the Earth directly from a temperature legend and especially the principle of 1461 rotations across 4 orbital circuits it leaves the road clear to consider what the Equation does . The Equation of Time is simply the balance between the variations in a full natural noon cycle and the steady 24 hour cycle,it only really comes into play with the development of clocks and,in tandem with the calendar cycle,adjusts the observation of natural noon to 24 hour clock noon hence AM and PM designations. The Equation of Time cannot be explained by planetary dynamics so worthless junk like the analemma are best left with those who know no better and although the Equation of Time does indicate the relationship between steady daily rotation to the Sun and the unequal orbital turning to the Sun,its format excludes the possibility of expressing the accurate relationship between daily and orbital motions. The easiest way to frame the Equation of Time is to put it in context of the calendar cycle and the rotations in that cycle insofar as it is easier to grasp what the Equation of Time is from the beginning of Mar rather than the civil year of January 1st.For any given year there are 365 rotations to the Sun with the additional rotation of Feb 29 th closing out 4 orbital circuits.As the Equation of Time works off the appearance of natural noon,it was necessary to create a table for the leap year,John Harrison created one but I am unable to find it on the internet. The Equation of Time,in whatever set of tables it is given (Huygen's determination of natural noon is accompanied by entirely subtraction values while others somethings add and sometime subtract) represent the rate of change of the orbital motion of the Earth against the steady rotation and while most years have 365 rotations and 1 year has 366 rotations,this is why the Equation of Time doesn't directly explain daily and orbital dynamics. The Royal Society was once a clearinghouse for information that could be handled in a working way but now it is left to the individual on the Usenet or internet to sort through the issues,I have already spoken at length about the toxic strain of empiricism and its inability to grasp basic astronomical facts and the precepts of the Equation of Time is one of them. So,everyone can check immediately where they stand,that is one of the benefits of referencing the number of rotations to 1 orbital circuit of the Earth,anyone who accepts 365 1/4 rotations can go on to investigating the Equation of Time,anyone who follows 366 1/4 rotations and the analemma junk or similar proposals need not bother. Your equation is spectacularly lacking in symbology nor notation. |
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Commentary on the Equation of Time
On Jun 19, 11:05*pm, R Downing wrote:
On 06/19/2011 06:31 AM, oriel36 wrote: This commentary is long overdue,although I do not address those who can't interpret the daily rotation of the Earth directly from a temperature legend and especially the principle of 1461 rotations across 4 orbital circuits it leaves the road clear to consider what the Equation does . The Equation of Time is simply the balance between the variations in a full natural noon cycle and the steady 24 hour cycle,it only really comes into play with the development of clocks and,in tandem with the calendar cycle,adjusts the observation of natural noon to 24 hour clock noon hence AM and PM designations. The Equation of Time cannot be explained by planetary dynamics so worthless junk like the analemma are best left with those who know no better and although the Equation of Time does indicate the relationship between steady daily rotation to the Sun and the unequal orbital turning to the Sun,its format excludes the possibility of expressing the accurate relationship between daily and orbital motions. The easiest way to frame the Equation of Time is to put it in context of the calendar cycle and the rotations in that cycle insofar as it is easier to grasp what the Equation of Time is from the beginning of Mar rather than the civil year of January 1st.For any given year there are 365 rotations to the Sun with the additional rotation of Feb 29 th closing out 4 orbital circuits.As the Equation of Time works off the appearance of natural noon,it was necessary to create a table for the leap year,John Harrison created one but I am unable to find it on the internet. The Equation of Time,in whatever set of tables it is given (Huygen's determination of natural noon is accompanied by entirely subtraction values while others somethings add and sometime subtract) represent the rate of change of the orbital motion of the Earth against the steady rotation and while most years have 365 rotations and 1 year has 366 rotations,this is why the Equation of Time doesn't directly explain daily and orbital dynamics. The Royal Society was once a clearinghouse for information that could be handled in a working way but now it is left to the individual on the Usenet or internet to sort through the issues,I have already spoken at length about the toxic strain of empiricism and its inability to grasp basic astronomical facts and the precepts of the Equation of Time is one of them. So,everyone can check immediately where they stand,that is one of the benefits of referencing the number of rotations to 1 orbital circuit of the Earth,anyone who accepts 365 1/4 rotations can go on to investigating the Equation of Time,anyone who follows 366 1/4 rotations and the analemma junk or similar proposals need not bother. Your equation is spectacularly lacking in symbology nor notation. Son,if you can interpret the daily rotation out of a temperature legend and daily temperature fluctuations,you might even stand a chance of relating the natural noon cycle to the 24 hour cycle so what you do is interpret these posts as addressed who could become astronomers rather than nuisance empiricists. So disappear back into oblivion like the rest,you can't exist where talent is required but I am certain there are people with that competitive spirit who can and they are out there. You can't discuss the Equation of Time in any shape or form with people who imagine 366 1/4 rotations in an orbital circuit and the toxic strain of empiricism inherited from Newton attempts to force such a mindnumbingly stupid proportion between daily rotations and an orbital circuit.To comprehend the Equation of Time properly requires the expansion out to 1461 rotations for 4 orbital circuits. |
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