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Old November 3rd 14, 06:40 PM posted to sci.space.station
snidely
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On Monday, November 3, 2014 9:36:42 AM UTC-8, snidely wrote:
On Monday, November 3, 2014 2:57:04 AM UTC-8, Jeff Findley wrote:

This sort of thing grates on my nerves. An "explosion" is a very
specific thing (in layman's terms, "boom!"). Breaking apart by means of
aerodynamic forces is not an "explosion". Reporters need to get this
sort of thing right.


Well, the initial reports were being made from a less-than-ideal vantage point, so there's lots of opportunity to be confused.


Also, at least 1 timeline has something like burn started, went out at 2
seconds, and then had a hard start. Presumably that would provide mechanical
shocks, which might have been a factor.

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Old November 6th 14, 11:52 AM posted to sci.space.station
Jeff Findley[_6_]
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On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 3:03:51 AM UTC-8, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article ,
says...

On Monday, November 3, 2014 2:57:04 AM UTC-8, Jeff Findley wrote:

This sort of thing grates on my nerves. An "explosion" is a very
specific thing (in layman's terms, "boom!"). Breaking apart by means of
aerodynamic forces is not an "explosion". Reporters need to get this
sort of thing right.

Well, the initial reports were being made from a less-than-ideal vantage
point, so there's lots of opportunity to be confused.


Saying there was an "explosion" is clearly an incorrect conclusion of
sorts.


We can say that now, but it was less clear when only ground observer reports
were available.

You can argue that weasel words were needed ... "/appears/ to have
exploded" ... but headline writers don't usually have room for weasel words,
and witnesses often forget to add them.


For the initial reports, it would have been sufficient to say that the
aircraft broke apart while in the air. It was unnecessary to speculate
why the aircraft broke apart because that was not known at the time.

Jeff
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