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  #1151  
Old March 8th 13, 01:54 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
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On 3/8/2013 12:11 AM, benj wrote:
On Thu, 07 Mar 2013 18:42:13 -0500, HVAC wrote:

I bet you're a real smooth talker with the ladies, MP3


Only if they are interested in aether theory.
Personally, I've found you make more headway if you talk about ghosts.


Since both are non-existent, I agree.
Gullible girls are easy to get into bed.



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Old March 8th 13, 04:35 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
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The Milky Way's halo is what is referred to curved spacetime.

The Milky Way's halo is the state of displacement of the aether.

The geometrical representation of gravity as curved spacetime
physically exists as the state of displacement of the aether.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.
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Old March 8th 13, 04:41 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
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On Mar 8, 4:27*am, mpc755 wrote:
On Mar 8, 1:24*am, Brad Guth wrote:



Where have we heard that a thousand times before? (just kidding)


Can you personally demonstrate your displaced aether version of
gravity, or is that sort of proof yet undeveloped for show and tell?


Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.


That's your interpretation. Now, back it up with real objective
science.
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Old March 8th 13, 04:54 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
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On Mar 8, 10:41*am, Brad Guth wrote:
On Mar 8, 4:27*am, mpc755 wrote:

On Mar 8, 1:24*am, Brad Guth wrote:


Where have we heard that a thousand times before? (just kidding)


Can you personally demonstrate your displaced aether version of
gravity, or is that sort of proof yet undeveloped for show and tell?


Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.


That's your interpretation. *Now, back it up with real objective
science.


Jump. Did you leave the Earth and wind up in outer space? No? Do you
know why?

The aether displaced by the Earth pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward the Earth forced you back down to the Earth.
  #1155  
Old March 9th 13, 03:14 AM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
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On Mar 8, 7:54*am, mpc755 wrote:
On Mar 8, 10:41*am, Brad Guth wrote:

On Mar 8, 4:27*am, mpc755 wrote:


On Mar 8, 1:24*am, Brad Guth wrote:


Where have we heard that a thousand times before? (just kidding)


Can you personally demonstrate your displaced aether version of
gravity, or is that sort of proof yet undeveloped for show and tell?


Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.


That's your interpretation. *Now, back it up with real objective
science.


Jump. Did you leave the Earth and wind up in outer space? No? Do you
know why?

The aether displaced by the Earth pushing back and exerting inward
pressure toward the Earth forced you back down to the Earth.


Without jumping, I always feel the mysterious but extremely weak force
of gravity (no aether required).

Actually, at the Earth-moon L1 there practically no measurable
gravity. Why is that? (it sure as hell isn't because of any lack or
surplus of aether)

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Old March 11th 13, 03:17 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
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On Mar 8, 10:14*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

Without jumping, I always feel the mysterious but extremely weak force
of gravity (no aether required).


Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.
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Old March 11th 13, 03:53 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
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On Mar 11, 7:17*am, mpc755 wrote:
On Mar 8, 10:14*pm, Brad Guth wrote:



Without jumping, I always feel the mysterious but extremely weak force
of gravity (no aether required).


Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.


How does that work at the Earth-moon L1, or at any other zero gravity
point or area such as Earth L1 that's still moving along at the same
speed as everything else?
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Old March 11th 13, 04:20 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
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On Mar 11, 10:53*am, Brad Guth wrote:

How does that work at the Earth-moon L1, or at any other zero gravity
point or area such as Earth L1 that's still moving along at the same
speed as everything else?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir...#Vacuum_energy

"a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if space were filled with
interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and the strength of the
field can be visualized as the displacement of a ball from its rest
position"

A 'field' in physics is space filled with aether and the strength of
the field is the displacement of the aether from its rest position.

Each of the plates in the Casimir effect displace the aether. The
displaced aether which exists between the plates is pushing back
toward each of the plates which causes the force associated with the
aether displaced by each of the plates which exists between the plates
to offset. This aether is more at rest than the aether which is
displaced by the plates which encompasses the plates. The reduced
force associated with the aether which exists between the plates along
with the displaced aether which encompasses the plates which is
pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward the plates causes the
plates to be forced together.

What occurs physically in nature in the Casimir effect is the same
phenomenon as gravity.

There is no such thing as non-baryonic dark matter. Aether has mass
and physically occupies three dimensional space. Aether is physically
displaced by matter.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.

The aether which exists between the Earth and the Moon is displaced by
both the Earth and the Moon and is pushing back toward the Earth and
toward the Moon. This displaced aether offsets and cancels each other
out to some degree. This aether is more at rest than the aether which
encompasses the Earth and the Moon.

The aether which encompasses the Earth and the Moon is able to exert
more pressure on the solid matter Earth than it can the liquid oceans.
This causes the solid matter Earth to be pushed closer to the Moon
than the ocean water opposite the Moon. This causes the ocean to
'rise' opposite the Moon. The aether displaced between the Earth and
Moon is more at rest. This aether exerts less pressure on the ocean
water between the Earth and the Moon than it can the solid matter
Earth. This causes the ocean to 'rise' between the Earth and Moon.
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Old March 11th 13, 05:05 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
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On Mar 11, 8:20*am, mpc755 wrote:
On Mar 11, 10:53*am, Brad Guth wrote:



How does that work at the Earth-moon L1, or at any other zero gravity
point or area such as Earth L1 that's still moving along at the same
speed as everything else?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir...#Vacuum_energy

"a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if space were filled with
interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and the strength of the
field can be visualized as the displacement of a ball from its rest
position"

A 'field' in physics is space filled with aether and the strength of
the field is the displacement of the aether from its rest position.

Each of the plates in the Casimir effect displace the aether. The
displaced aether which exists between the plates is pushing back
toward each of the plates which causes the force associated with the
aether displaced by each of the plates which exists between the plates
to offset. This aether is more at rest than the aether which is
displaced by the plates which encompasses the plates. The reduced
force associated with the aether which exists between the plates along
with the displaced aether which encompasses the plates which is
pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward the plates causes the
plates to be forced together.

What occurs physically in nature in the Casimir effect is the same
phenomenon as gravity.

There is no such thing as non-baryonic dark matter. Aether has mass
and physically occupies three dimensional space. Aether is physically
displaced by matter.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.

The aether which exists between the Earth and the Moon is displaced by
both the Earth and the Moon and is pushing back toward the Earth and
toward the Moon. This displaced aether offsets and cancels each other
out to some degree. This aether is more at rest than the aether which
encompasses the Earth and the Moon.

The aether which encompasses the Earth and the Moon is able to exert
more pressure on the solid matter Earth than it can the liquid oceans.
This causes the solid matter Earth to be pushed closer to the Moon
than the ocean water opposite the Moon. This causes the ocean to
'rise' opposite the Moon. The aether displaced between the Earth and
Moon is more at rest. This aether exerts less pressure on the ocean
water between the Earth and the Moon than it can the solid matter
Earth. This causes the ocean to 'rise' between the Earth and Moon.


But the Earth-moon L1 still has its own local gravity that's entirely
based upon the local mass that we can place there. So, perhaps at
best the displacement of aether and local mass are equal forces.
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Old March 11th 13, 08:37 PM posted to sci.physics.relativity,sci.physics,alt.astronomy,sci.astro
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On Mar 11, 12:05*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

But the Earth-moon L1 still has its own local gravity that's entirely
based upon the local mass that we can place there. *So, perhaps at
best the displacement of aether and local mass are equal forces.


Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward
matter is gravity.
 




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