Sam⋅Wormley, the CMBR is 2.7 K today... TODAY. 

On Feb 2, 6:36*pm, Adolf Arch-Impersonator
wrote:
On Feb 2, 12:51*pm, Brad Guth wrote:









On Feb 2, 8:37*am, Adolf Arch-Impersonator
wrote:

On Feb 2, 10:55*am, Sam Wormley wrote:

On 2/2/13 7:55 AM, Brad Guth wrote:

On Feb 1, 9:04 pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 2/1/13 7:28 PM, Brad Guth wrote:

Or, a BH could just as easily be 1e6 K, because no IR or any other
spectrum can escape.

* * That BH would have a mass of 1.2e+14 Metric Tons
* * And a lifetime of 4.9e+27 years

An electron is how hot?

* *Must be measured. Try not to be stooopid, Guth.

I'm guessing that the temperature of emitted electrons from a black
hole would have to depend upon the time that they were emitted, e.g. a
black hole with a mass of 10^15 g continuously emits radiation
(electrons) for 10^10 years, corresponding to the age of the universe..

But observations of evaporating black holes would therefore have to
apply to holes with masses 10^16 g.

And whether or not evaporating black holes eventually disappear
altogether, would mean that they would have to violate the
conservation of baryon charge. My guess is that black holes would have
to stop evaporating at some quantum level, and divide up as electrons
around 10^-5 g.

Black holes have been identified by their usually high amount of
positrons, as possibly emerging from their polar jets. *mpc755 calls
this BH polar outflux aether.

Electrons having a rest mass of 9.1066 × 10^-28 gr., would also mean,
that there are 1.09e22 electrons available, before causing a BH
collapse.

Perhaps this is why mass goes radiating critically' before it
disappears. Just a thought: Rotating superconductors should be
designed not to exceed this limit before going 'critical'.
That a bit hard to follow, but at least it's offering another idea as
to what makes a BH tick or evaporate.

1.09e22 electrons are not such a large quantity.

Supposedly mass never vanishes, but it does change its form between
energy, aether and mass. Perhaps aether came first, then energy, then
mass.

On Feb 2, 7:51*am, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 2/1/13 4:03 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:









On 2/1/13 3:42 PM, Double-A wrote:
On Jan 31, 1:24 pm, Jeff-Relf.Me @. wrote:
* *God damn, Sam Wormley ! You're telling treBert black holes only
grow, never shrink. How could you be more retarded than that ?
****ing unbelievable ! The CMBR is 2.7 K today... TODAY.

How the Universe Has Cooled Since the Big Bang Fits Big Bang Theory

"According to the Big Bang theory, the temperature of the cosmic
background radiation drops smoothly as the Universe expands. "That's
just what we see in our measurements. The Universe of a few billion
years ago was a few degrees warmer than it is now, exactly as the Big
Bang Theory predicts," said research team leader Dr Sebastien Muller
of Onsala Space Observatory at Chalmers University of Technology in
Sweden."

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0123101622.htm

And so the temperature of the universe continues to decline as time
passes, giving even the biggest black holes the opportunity to
evaporate.

Double-A

* *The more massive the black hole, the colder it is and the
* *longer it will take to evaporate

* *The Lifetime of a 1 kg black hole is 8.4e-17 seconds

* *The lifetime of a 10 solar mass black hole is 2.1e70 years

* *The lifetime of a 10^6 solar mass black hole is 2.1e85 years

* *Black Holes, unless they violate the laws of thermodynamics, have
* *a temperature and there for radiate. The ones we know about tend
* *to have VERY low temperature with little radiation.

As the universe cools and condensates into creating cooler stars and
loads of planets, whereas at some point this energy from the
supposedly forever expanding universe has to go somewhere and
materialize once again, as either energy, mass or perhaps as aether.

On Feb 3, 1:02*am, Brad Guth wrote:
On Feb 2, 6:36*pm, Adolf Arch-Impersonator
wrote:







On Feb 2, 12:51*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Feb 2, 8:37*am, Adolf Arch-Impersonator
wrote:

On Feb 2, 10:55*am, Sam Wormley wrote:

On 2/2/13 7:55 AM, Brad Guth wrote:

On Feb 1, 9:04 pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 2/1/13 7:28 PM, Brad Guth wrote:

Or, a BH could just as easily be 1e6 K, because no IR or any other
spectrum can escape.

* * That BH would have a mass of 1.2e+14 Metric Tons
* * And a lifetime of 4.9e+27 years

An electron is how hot?

* *Must be measured. Try not to be stooopid, Guth.

I'm guessing that the temperature of emitted electrons from a black
hole would have to depend upon the time that they were emitted, e.g.. a
black hole with a mass of 10^15 g continuously emits radiation
(electrons) for 10^10 years, corresponding to the age of the universe.

But observations of evaporating black holes would therefore have to
apply to holes with masses 10^16 g.

And whether or not evaporating black holes eventually disappear
altogether, would mean that they would have to violate the
conservation of baryon charge. My guess is that black holes would have
to stop evaporating at some quantum level, and divide up as electrons
around 10^-5 g.

Black holes have been identified by their usually high amount of
positrons, as possibly emerging from their polar jets. *mpc755 calls
this BH polar outflux aether.

Electrons having a rest mass of 9.1066 × 10^-28 gr., would also mean,
that there are 1.09e22 electrons available, before causing a BH
collapse.

Perhaps this is why mass goes radiating critically' before it
disappears. Just a thought: Rotating superconductors should be
designed not to exceed this limit before going 'critical'.

That a bit hard to follow, but at least it's offering another idea as
to what makes a BH tick or evaporate.

1.09e22 electrons are not such a large quantity.

Supposedly mass never vanishes, but it does change its form between
energy, aether and mass. *Perhaps aether came first, then energy, then
mass.

10^5 grams came from h / [(c)(l_g)], where h = Planck constant (J-
sec), c = light speed, l_g = gravitational length (=sqrt(Gh/c^3) = 1.6
e-33cm., so it's plain to see that 1.09e22 electrons compacted into an
area the size of the Planck length would be in the megavolt range,
which is (probably) not going to happen with any known superconductor.

Aether models in the past have failed to provide the much-needed model
for electro-mechanical induction of polarized plasma between the zero-
point background and a rotating superconductor, in order to
manufacture a self-induced scalar field that corrects for the changed
speed of light by changing the fine structure constant within the
moving magnetic field, slowing time within the field, and increasing
the frequency of propogation for the inertial observer.

On Feb 2, 2:17*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Feb 2, 12:40*pm, Double-A wrote:





On Feb 2, 5:55*am, Brad Guth wrote:

On Feb 1, 9:04*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:

On 2/1/13 7:28 PM, Brad Guth wrote:

Or, a BH could just as easily be 1e6 K, because no IR or any other
spectrum can escape.

* *That BH would have a mass of 1.2e+14 Metric Tons
* *And a lifetime of 4.9e+27 years

An electron is how hot?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_temperature

Double-A

Thanks for that reminder. *In other words, electrons and/or positrons
can get extremely hot, and because of their singularity size of
essentially zero volume,


How do you know that?


they could easily stay hot for a trillion
years.


John Archibald Wheeler was big on this elemetary particles as black
holes theory, but he gave up on it. Maybe you should too.

Double-A

On Feb 2, 3:24*pm, "G=EMC^2" wrote:
On Feb 2, 10:55*am, Sam Wormley wrote:

On 2/2/13 7:55 AM, Brad Guth wrote:

On Feb 1, 9:04 pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 2/1/13 7:28 PM, Brad Guth wrote:

Or, a BH could just as easily be 1e6 K, because no IR or any other
spectrum can escape.

* * That BH would have a mass of 1.2e+14 Metric Tons
* * And a lifetime of 4.9e+27 years

An electron is how hot?

* *Must be measured. Try not to be stooopid, Guth.

Sam *How do you measure a BH temp? What type of themometer do you
use"?


Rectal?


How close do you have to be for a good measurement. Keep in mind
gravity can make stuff very *hot(trillions of F) *Its in Google. The
small black hole of a few solar masses is a millionyh of a degree
above zero. * Reality is stuff that did not go into a black hole as
seen from a great distance leads us to think it came out of the BH.
Get the picture *Best to keep in mind a BH with a mass a billion times
a solar mass would have a temperate so close to absolute zero it can
be said to have no heat.. It would in reality be wiped out by spaces
2.7K *All wave functions are 0 inside a black hole. You can not get
any information from a BH. * Looks like Treb and I have BH nailed
TreBert


Yes, nailed! So why did you ask the question?

Double-A

On Feb 3, 1:49*pm, Double-A wrote:
On Feb 2, 2:17*pm, Brad Guth wrote:









On Feb 2, 12:40*pm, Double-A wrote:

On Feb 2, 5:55*am, Brad Guth wrote:

On Feb 1, 9:04*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:

On 2/1/13 7:28 PM, Brad Guth wrote:

Or, a BH could just as easily be 1e6 K, because no IR or any other
spectrum can escape.

* *That BH would have a mass of 1.2e+14 Metric Tons
* *And a lifetime of 4.9e+27 years

An electron is how hot?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_temperature

Double-A

Thanks for that reminder. *In other words, electrons and/or positrons
can get extremely hot, and because of their singularity size of
essentially zero volume,

How do you know that?

they could easily stay hot for a trillion
years.

John Archibald Wheeler was big on this elemetary particles as black
holes theory, but he gave up on it. *Maybe you should too.

Double-A

Big stuff cools off rather nicely, although smaller stuff like WDs are
taking next to forever to cool off. Therefore the quantum singularity
of the electron or positron, once heated must be offering nearly
immortal thermal dynamics.

On Feb 3, 1:53*pm, Double-A wrote:
On Feb 2, 3:24*pm, "G=EMC^2" wrote:









On Feb 2, 10:55*am, Sam Wormley wrote:

On 2/2/13 7:55 AM, Brad Guth wrote:

On Feb 1, 9:04 pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 2/1/13 7:28 PM, Brad Guth wrote:

Or, a BH could just as easily be 1e6 K, because no IR or any other
spectrum can escape.

* * That BH would have a mass of 1.2e+14 Metric Tons
* * And a lifetime of 4.9e+27 years

An electron is how hot?

* *Must be measured. Try not to be stooopid, Guth.

Sam *How do you measure a BH temp? What type of themometer do you
use"?

Rectal?

How close do you have to be for a good measurement. Keep in mind
gravity can make stuff very *hot(trillions of F) *Its in Google. The
small black hole of a few solar masses is a millionyh of a degree
above zero. * Reality is stuff that did not go into a black hole as
seen from a great distance leads us to think it came out of the BH.
Get the picture *Best to keep in mind a BH with a mass a billion times
a solar mass would have a temperate so close to absolute zero it can
be said to have no heat.. It would in reality be wiped out by spaces
2.7K *All wave functions are 0 inside a black hole. You can not get
any information from a BH. * Looks like Treb and I have BH nailed
TreBert

Yes, nailed! *So why did you ask the question?

Double-A

Why would the innards of a BH become cold?

On Feb 3, 2:39*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Feb 3, 1:49*pm, Double-A wrote:





On Feb 2, 2:17*pm, Brad Guth wrote:

On Feb 2, 12:40*pm, Double-A wrote:

On Feb 2, 5:55*am, Brad Guth wrote:

On Feb 1, 9:04*pm, Sam Wormley wrote:

On 2/1/13 7:28 PM, Brad Guth wrote:

Or, a BH could just as easily be 1e6 K, because no IR or any other
spectrum can escape.

* *That BH would have a mass of 1.2e+14 Metric Tons
* *And a lifetime of 4.9e+27 years

An electron is how hot?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_temperature

Double-A

Thanks for that reminder. *In other words, electrons and/or positrons
can get extremely hot, and because of their singularity size of
essentially zero volume,

How do you know that?

they could easily stay hot for a trillion
years.

John Archibald Wheeler was big on this elemetary particles as black
holes theory, but he gave up on it. *Maybe you should too.

Double-A

Big stuff cools off rather nicely, although smaller stuff like WDs are
taking next to forever to cool off. *Therefore the quantum singularity
of the electron or positron, once heated must be offering nearly
immortal thermal dynamics.


Small black holes evaportate more quickly than large ones.

Double-A

On Feb 3, 2:40*pm, Brad Guth wrote:
On Feb 3, 1:53*pm, Double-A wrote:





On Feb 2, 3:24*pm, "G=EMC^2" wrote:

On Feb 2, 10:55*am, Sam Wormley wrote:

On 2/2/13 7:55 AM, Brad Guth wrote:

On Feb 1, 9:04 pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 2/1/13 7:28 PM, Brad Guth wrote:

Or, a BH could just as easily be 1e6 K, because no IR or any other
spectrum can escape.

* * That BH would have a mass of 1.2e+14 Metric Tons
* * And a lifetime of 4.9e+27 years

An electron is how hot?

* *Must be measured. Try not to be stooopid, Guth.

Sam *How do you measure a BH temp? What type of themometer do you
use"?

Rectal?

How close do you have to be for a good measurement. Keep in mind
gravity can make stuff very *hot(trillions of F) *Its in Google. The
small black hole of a few solar masses is a millionyh of a degree
above zero. * Reality is stuff that did not go into a black hole as
seen from a great distance leads us to think it came out of the BH.
Get the picture *Best to keep in mind a BH with a mass a billion times
a solar mass would have a temperate so close to absolute zero it can
be said to have no heat.. It would in reality be wiped out by spaces
2.7K *All wave functions are 0 inside a black hole. You can not get
any information from a BH. * Looks like Treb and I have BH nailed
TreBert

Yes, nailed! *So why did you ask the question?

Double-A

Why would the innards of a BH become cold?


Well, due to time dilation, they would appear cold.

Double-A

On Feb 3, 2:48*pm, Double-A wrote:
On Feb 3, 2:40*pm, Brad Guth wrote:









On Feb 3, 1:53*pm, Double-A wrote:

On Feb 2, 3:24*pm, "G=EMC^2" wrote:

On Feb 2, 10:55*am, Sam Wormley wrote:

On 2/2/13 7:55 AM, Brad Guth wrote:

On Feb 1, 9:04 pm, Sam Wormley wrote:
On 2/1/13 7:28 PM, Brad Guth wrote:

Or, a BH could just as easily be 1e6 K, because no IR or any other
spectrum can escape.

* * That BH would have a mass of 1.2e+14 Metric Tons
* * And a lifetime of 4.9e+27 years

An electron is how hot?

* *Must be measured. Try not to be stooopid, Guth.

Sam *How do you measure a BH temp? What type of themometer do you
use"?

Rectal?

How close do you have to be for a good measurement. Keep in mind
gravity can make stuff very *hot(trillions of F) *Its in Google.. The
small black hole of a few solar masses is a millionyh of a degree
above zero. * Reality is stuff that did not go into a black hole as
seen from a great distance leads us to think it came out of the BH.
Get the picture *Best to keep in mind a BH with a mass a billion times
a solar mass would have a temperate so close to absolute zero it can
be said to have no heat.. It would in reality be wiped out by spaces
2.7K *All wave functions are 0 inside a black hole. You can not get
any information from a BH. * Looks like Treb and I have BH nailed
TreBert

Yes, nailed! *So why did you ask the question?

Double-A

Why would the innards of a BH become cold?

Well, due to time dilation, they would appear cold.

Double-A

Even though 1e6 K or even hotter could be the actual case.