Meade series 5000, stigma busters?

Will the stigma of Meade as regards being constantly bashed and
denigrated for copying the Gen 1 Nagler line be lifted when their new
5000 UWA series rolls out?

Lawrence Sayre

On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 09:44:40 GMT, lsayre wrote:

Will the stigma of Meade as regards being constantly bashed and
denigrated for copying the Gen 1 Nagler line be lifted when their new
5000 UWA series rolls out?

Lawrence Sayre

Of all the products out there that represent immitations but improved
immitations on original products, why would Meade be stigmatized and
others not? I remember a few people crying that the G5 was a copy of
the Vixen SP mount, but given the numbers of the G5s sold, most people
had no problem accepting it.

"Rich" wrote in message

Of all the products out there that represent immitations but improved
immitations on original products, why would Meade be stigmatized and
others not? I remember a few people crying that the G5 was a copy of
the Vixen SP mount, but given the numbers of the G5s sold, most people
had no problem accepting it.


I think its because Al Nagler is a real person to American amateurs. That
adds a human dimension to any perceived injustice. With faceless
corporations its just business.

Ed T.

On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 18:38:40 GMT, "Ed T" wrote:


"Rich" wrote in message

Of all the products out there that represent immitations but improved
immitations on original products, why would Meade be stigmatized and
others not? I remember a few people crying that the G5 was a copy of
the Vixen SP mount, but given the numbers of the G5s sold, most people
had no problem accepting it.


I think its because Al Nagler is a real person to American amateurs. That
adds a human dimension to any perceived injustice. With faceless
corporations its just business.

Ed T.


Yes, Nagler is known, he designed his eyepieces and telescopes,
he goes to stores and star parties.

But for the more rational out there, if some company comes along
and makes an eyepiece like the Meade UWs and Naglers but also
produces them so they have no distortion or difference of
magnification across the FOV and improves the lateral colour,
I don't care who they are, my Meades and TeleVues are history!
But,someone at Meade worked on the eyepieces, maybe they should
publish pictures of the people? Edmund Scientific(s) is doing
that in Photonics-Spectra magazine.

Subject: Meade series 5000, stigma busters?
From: RichA
Date: 10/27/2004 8:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:


But for the more rational out there, if some company comes along
and makes an eyepiece like the Meade UWs and Naglers but also
produces them so they have no distortion or difference of
magnification across the FOV and improves the lateral colour,
I don't care who they are, my Meades and TeleVues are history!
But,someone at Meade worked on the eyepieces, maybe they should
publish pictures of the people? Edmund Scientific(s) is doing
that in Photonics-Spectra magazine.
****************************
Meade used to show pics of people back in the 70's! I remember a gruff looking
man holding a Meade tube, that was when Meade was great to order from.

I would get my orders in less than a week!!!

Chas P.

"CHASLX200" wrote in message
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Subject: Meade series 5000, stigma busters?
From: RichA
Date: 10/27/2004 8:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:


But for the more rational out there, if some company comes along
and makes an eyepiece like the Meade UWs and Naglers but also
produces them so they have no distortion or difference of
magnification across the FOV and improves the lateral colour,
I don't care who they are, my Meades and TeleVues are history!
But,someone at Meade worked on the eyepieces, maybe they should
publish pictures of the people? Edmund Scientific(s) is doing
that in Photonics-Spectra magazine.
****************************
Meade used to show pics of people back in the 70's! I remember a gruff
looking
man holding a Meade tube, that was when Meade was great to order from.

I would get my orders in less than a week!!!

Chas P.

Yes, in the 70's and 80's I would talk directly with John Diebel. Even
tested stuff for him, pre intro...

On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:43:01 -0700, "Jan Owen"
wrote:


"CHASLX200" wrote in message
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Subject: Meade series 5000, stigma busters?
From: RichA
Date: 10/27/2004 8:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:


But for the more rational out there, if some company comes along
and makes an eyepiece like the Meade UWs and Naglers but also
produces them so they have no distortion or difference of
magnification across the FOV and improves the lateral colour,
I don't care who they are, my Meades and TeleVues are history!
But,someone at Meade worked on the eyepieces, maybe they should
publish pictures of the people? Edmund Scientific(s) is doing
that in Photonics-Spectra magazine.
****************************
Meade used to show pics of people back in the 70's! I remember a gruff
looking
man holding a Meade tube, that was when Meade was great to order from.

I would get my orders in less than a week!!!

Chas P.

Yes, in the 70's and 80's I would talk directly with John Diebel. Even
tested stuff for him, pre intro...


But, it's when the independent dealers got Celestron that the prices
dropped. Factory price on a C8 in 1977 was probably around $1000.
From a dealer in 1978, $685.00. Of course, this was prior to Meade,
TeleVue, etc, price fixing.

Subject: Meade series 5000, stigma busters?
From: RichA
Date: 10/27/2004 11:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:



But, it's when the independent dealers got Celestron that the prices
dropped. Factory price on a C8 in 1977 was probably around $1000.
From a dealer in 1978, $685.00. Of course, this was prior to Meade,
TeleVue, etc, price fixing.
*************************************
The good old 70's, when scopes were scopes and men were men!!!

Chas P.

On 28 Oct 2004 11:51:29 GMT, (CHASLX200) wrote:

Subject: Meade series 5000, stigma busters?
From: RichA
Date: 10/27/2004 11:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id:



But, it's when the independent dealers got Celestron that the prices
dropped. Factory price on a C8 in 1977 was probably around $1000.
From a dealer in 1978, $685.00. Of course, this was prior to Meade,
TeleVue, etc, price fixing.
*************************************
The good old 70's, when scopes were scopes and men were men!!!

Chas P.


Yeah, when scopes were not clones and men were not Hobbits ;-)

Pete R.

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:14:54 -0500, Pete Rasmussen
wrote:


Yeah, when scopes were not clones and men were not Hobbits ;-)

Oops, didn't intend that to sound r*cist. Was referring in jest to
the astounding Flores man hominid discovery.

Pete