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Old May 13th 04, 05:00 PM
Ami Silberman
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Well, there is the issue of who knew, which (pending new information
that could pop up any moment) suggests that only a few low-level prison
guards did nasty things, vs. those who should set policy such that it is
abundantly clear that torture chambers and rape rooms are absolutely,
unequivocally, *NOT* acceptable. The latter goes to the very top. Not
just the Secretary of Defense, but to the President, and even the entire
American voting public.

The Geneva conventions, the FM on the Law of Land Warfare, and a number of
Army Regulations make it abundantly clear that those things are not
acceptable. There was a failure to properly educate the soldiers involved in
the correct and legal procedures.


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Old May 13th 04, 06:53 PM
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Peter Stickney wrote:

Funny that you should bring that up - IIRC, the Canadian Parachute
Regiment was disbanded after reports of its mistreatement of prisoners
in Bosnia while it was assigned to peacekeeping duties there.


"So it's like breakfast, eh? So it's like time to eat your backbacon,
eh? So what do you mean about it being unclean? So like have a Molson's
and calm down....what do you mean 'Molson's is unclean'? No, that is not
a Yamaka, that is a Toque."


And don't get me started on the Belgians in Somalia - I don't know
about you, but holding a 12 year old over an open fire, requiring a
twelve year old girl to strip and perform sexual favors for the
troops, and stuffing other kids into ammo boxes to die in the sun (And
getting a slap on the wrist from the Belgian Military Courts, in the
one conviction obtained) isn't exactly Geneva Convention stuff either.


There behaivior in Africa hasn't changed much over the centuries, has it?

Pat

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Old May 13th 04, 07:11 PM
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On Thu, 13 May 2004 12:53:35 -0500, Pat Flannery
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And don't get me started on the Belgians in Somalia - I don't know
about you, but holding a 12 year old over an open fire, requiring a
twelve year old girl to strip and perform sexual favors for the
troops, and stuffing other kids into ammo boxes to die in the sun (And
getting a slap on the wrist from the Belgian Military Courts, in the
one conviction obtained) isn't exactly Geneva Convention stuff either.


....Ah, the Phlegms.

There behaivior in Africa hasn't changed much over the centuries, has it?


....Didn't Somalia used to be the Belgian Congo? Hell, those national
names in Africa change at the drop of a dictator anyway.

OM

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Old May 13th 04, 07:13 PM
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Nicholas Fitzpatrick wrote:

In article ,
Peter Stickney wrote:


Canada isn't part of North America?


Funny that you should bring that up - IIRC, the Canadian Parachute
Regiment was disbanded after reports of its mistreatement of prisoners
in Bosnia while it was assigned to peacekeeping duties there.



It was Somalia.

Oddly enough, the backbacon stuff still works.


Also, the inquiry raised questions (but never completely answered)
the question that the Malaria drug that was in use at the time,
may have been impacting the judgement of the soldiers. The
drug does have psychotic side-effects. See
http://www.commando.org/somalia/mefloquine.html


"So...you think I'm Jewish, eh? Why do you think that, eh? Do you think
an Israeli hockey team could beat the Maple Leaves?
Oh...you don't....you think the Maple Leaves are the best hockey team on
earth, eh? Here are some photos of my home town...yes, it is a very
pretty city...it is called Montreal..."
BLAM!

Pat

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Old May 13th 04, 07:37 PM
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Scott Hedrick wrote:

It gets worse- try the Americanized versions of imports. I've had imported
Killian's Irish Red- the crap that Coors passes off is Coors Light with food
coloring.

Bass is just plain sneaky. You can toss down a half-dozen and pass a
breathalyzer- then it attacks all at once.


Try Canadian Moosehead, that stuff packs a wallop also.
SCTV parody ad:
"And another one's gone,
And another one's gone,
Another one drinks a Moose."
The key with good American beer is to avoid the major manufacturers and
go for the smaller breweries- who actually can make stuff that doesn't
have to be inoffensive to all and sundry; in that group there are some
very good beers, ales, and porters available.

Seriously though, the only main-stream beer down there that seem
potable is Samuel Adams.



SA's pretty good.


Maybe it's gotten more robust, but when they first brought it out I had
some, and I found it weak in character.



The rest seem even worse than our mass-market


Labatt and Molson products (which I didn't think was possible!)



The best thing about Lablatt is the commercials.


.....and the worst is "The Skunk"; an unpleasant smell that most Canadian
beer seems to develop if it's not consumed fairly quickly after it's
bottled.




(which reminds me ... how come they don't put the alcohol content
on US beer bottles



It would hurt sales.


Sometimes they do put it on the bottle or can; try the awful-tasting but
deadly "Camo" beer sometime:
http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/rate_results/881/2789/
Nowadays though, beer must meet the strict regimen of the Atkin's
diet...(laughing in disgust)




... and just how low does a light beer get there?



Like making love in a canoe.


There are things out there that shouldn't be called beer; they should be
called polluted water.


If I were a trucker, I'd keep a case of Guinness handy as an emergency
source of diesel.


Aye lad, Guinness! Now that's what a man _should_ be drinking... :-)

Pat

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Old May 13th 04, 07:47 PM
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"OM" om@our_blessed_lady_mary_of_the_holy_NASA_researc h_facility.org wrote
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...Didn't Somalia used to be the Belgian Congo? Hell, those national
names in Africa change at the drop of a dictator anyway.

OM

No, Zaire used to be the Belgian Congo.


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Old May 13th 04, 07:54 PM
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"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
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Oddly enough, the backbacon stuff still works.


It seems pretty common in the ancient world to force Jews to eat pork as a
way of breaking their spirit/showing that they had surrendered. Why was it
always pork? Why couldn't it have been, say, lobster? Or Cheeseburgers...


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Old May 13th 04, 07:57 PM
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OM wrote:

it?



...Didn't Somalia used to be the Belgian Congo? Hell, those national
names in Africa change at the drop of a dictator anyway.


Right latitude; wrong longitude- the Belgian Congo was on the western
side of Africa:
http://www.zum.de/whkmla/region/cent...freestate.html

Pat
People's committee to reestablish Ifni as a nation.

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Old May 13th 04, 08:13 PM
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Ami Silberman wrote:

"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
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Oddly enough, the backbacon stuff still works.



It seems pretty common in the ancient world to force Jews to eat pork as a
way of breaking their spirit/showing that they had surrendered. Why was it
always pork? Why couldn't it have been, say, lobster? Or Cheeseburgers...


I'm still trying to figure out the most unkosher food; I'm tending
toward a cheeseburger with an added ham patty; then....by slipping a
dead bat that has been raised on a diet of winged four-legged swarming
things between the bun and the burger.... and topping it off with some
crab salad....

Pat

 




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