Worthy of survival

On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 10:02:23 -0500, Bob Kolker
wrote:

"If NASA were put in charge of the Sahara Desert,
within five years they'd have a shortage of sand."
--Milton Friedman

A Big Amen to that! And keep in mind that a Camel is a Horse designed by
Congress.

"I have wondered at times about what the Ten Commandments would have
looked like if Moses had run them through the U.S. Congress."
--Ronald Reagan


--

"First and last, it's a question of money. Those men who own the earth
make the laws to protect what they have. They fix up a sort of fence or
pen around what they have, and they fix the law so the fellow on the
outside cannot get in. The laws are really organized for the protection of
the men who rule the world. They were never organized or enforced to do
justice. We have no system for doing justice, not the slightest in the
world."
--Clarence Darrow

(Citizen Bob) wrote:

On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:23:32 GMT, h (Rand
Simberg) wrote:

The story of how the NASA management sat on and bullied the Mortin
Thiokol engineers on the matter of the SRB o-ring seals is enough to
bring rage to the heart and tears to the eyes.

Which has nothing to do with fairy tales about glue and tiles, or
environmentalism.

Fairy tales, eh.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=30824

That's talking about the spray-on foam insulation (SOFI) for the
external fuel tank (ET), not tile glue for the orbiter thermal
protection system (TPS).

On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 10:09:18 GMT, in a place far, far away,
(Citizen Bob) made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:

On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 14:23:32 GMT, h (Rand
Simberg) wrote:

The story of how the NASA management sat on and bullied the Mortin
Thiokol engineers on the matter of the SRB o-ring seals is enough to
bring rage to the heart and tears to the eyes.

Which has nothing to do with fairy tales about glue and tiles, or
environmentalism.

Fairy tales, eh.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=30824

Even if that were a reliable source, it says nothing about the glue
holding the tiles on.

Yes, a fairy tale.

On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:59:15 -0500, in a place far, far away, Bob
Kolker made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:

Rand Simberg wrote:

Even if that were a reliable source, it says nothing about the glue
holding the tiles on.

Yes, a fairy tale.

What the article did indicate was a growing oblivion to safety issue by
the Management of NASA. Do you deny this?

No. That's a different issue. I was simply addressing "Citizen
Bob"'s unfactual statements. I'm certainly not a defender of NASA
(other than when it's attacked for nonsensical reasons).

Citizen Bob wrote:


The biggest perversion of all, however - the one that accounts for the
human condition for all of recorded history - is best exemplified by
the Milgram Experiments - the penchant for accepting authority
uncritically. If, for example, man had practiced tyrannicide over the
millennia we would not be in the ****ed up mess we are today.

Not everyone was taken in by the Milgram. I saw right through it.



Man has been on a death march since civilization began and bullies
took over by creating govt - a death march on the road to Armegeddon.

Govt is the root of all evil - it is a criminal cabal. Death to all
criminal politicians and the lawyers who feed them.

And the people who vote them into office?

If Christ does return at the last minute, He is going to kick some
serious ass. If I were Christ, I would stay away - the human race is
not worth saving. It is the result of the great apes ****ing sheep,
producing a long line of cowards too chicken**** to kill criminals on
the spot.

Christ II: The Second Coming --- This time He is not turning the Other
Cheek.

Bob Kolker

Citizen Bob wrote:

On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 17:40:56 -0500, Bob Kolker
wrote:


The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Right now our army is killing
Muslims. Not as many as I would like, but every dead Muslim adds to my
life. As long as our troops are killing Muslims, I root for them.


Most Muslim deaths in Iraq are caused by other Muslims. Coalition
troops are merely helping create the conditions for that killing to
occur.

Some big shot military guy was on TV the other night and he claimed
that Coalition troops are killing some Muslims as a matter of course.
He said they are killing 10 times more than the Muslims are killing
the troops.

If I get terminal cancer and the Make A Wish Foundation arranges my
last three wishes. one is to be able to push a button that results in
the death of as many Muslim terrorists as possible. And then I want a

My fantasy is to nuke Meccah in the middle of the Haj. If the government
offered me a suicide mission to do it, I would accept the offer in a
microsecond.

second button that allows me to kill as many JBGTs as possible, in
particular the ones who perpetrated the Waco Massacre. For a third
button, I want to nuke the Beltway.

I remember deliberately riding around Interstate 395 (aka the Beltway)
seven times calling on the Lord to bring fire and brimstone upon
Washington DC. This was a homage to Joshua bin Nun leading the Jews
around the walls of Jericho seven times leading to the collapse thereof.
In those days Jews had two Big Ones and were disinclined to be liberal.
I am happy to say that the Neo-Conservative movement (led and originated
by Jews who vomited out their pro-Commie inclinations and Woke Up) is a
step back in that direction.

When Moses (our teacher) was a prince in Egypt who say an Egyptian
flogging two Hebrew slaves. He completely surpressed that primordial
Jewish urge to consider the situation fairly and from both sides. After
all, wasn't the overseer just as much a victim of the System as the
slave? No, Moses did none of that! He killed the Egyptian and buried
his body in the sand. And did the Hebrew slaves thank him? They did not.
They said to Moses, and just when did you die, go to heaven and become a
Prophet of the Lord? So typical. No good deed shall go unpunished.

Bob Kolker

Citizen Bob wrote:

On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 10:02:23 -0500, Bob Kolker
wrote:


"If NASA were put in charge of the Sahara Desert,
within five years they'd have a shortage of sand."
--Milton Friedman


A Big Amen to that! And keep in mind that a Camel is a Horse designed by
Congress.


"I have wondered at times about what the Ten Commandments would have
looked like if Moses had run them through the U.S. Congress."
--Ronald Reagan

They would become the Ten Suggestions and would be compromised in a
joint House-Senate committee.

Bob Kolker

"I bring to you thes fifteen.... oops (dropping a tablet and breaking
it) ... these ten commandmants" --- Mel Brooks.

Fred J. McCall wrote:


To wherever the predominant gravitational influence is, El Chimpo.

Get into space. Kill your velocity with regard to Earth or the Sun.
What happens?

Hint: Your answer should include the phrase "plummet like a stone".

Or be so far from a gravitating body that you move nearly in a straight
line nearly at uniform acceleration.

Bob Kolker

On 31 Oct 2006 06:16:11 -0800, in a place far, far away,
"columbiaaccidentinvestigation"
made the phosphor on my
monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

What I do find interesting is calling me a troll, when it is obvious
once you were faced with real science in debating me, you couldn't
produce credible source backing you're opinions,

I was describing your lack of ability to understand the very papers
you cited, which is obvious to anyone capable of comprehending logic
and able to read English. I'm not aware of any papers that have been
written on this subject to cite, though I'm sure that you'd make a
fascinating case study for psychologists.

then like you used
every arguing tactic in the book to save face. But rand it is really
obvious by the endless rhetorical subjective debates that you would
rather partake that you are in fact "self stimulating your
intellectual insecurities by attempting to boost up you're own ego at
the expense of others"

How amusingly stupid, to put your own words in quotes, as though that
somehow makes them meaningful.

On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 09:29:57 -0500, in a place far, far away, Bob
Kolker made the phosphor on my monitor glow in
such a way as to indicate that:

Rand Simberg wrote:


No. That's a different issue. I was simply addressing "Citizen
Bob"'s unfactual statements. I'm certainly not a defender of NASA
(other than when it's attacked for nonsensical reasons).

Nonsensical reasons like:

1. Its management has grown corrupt and incompetent

2. Its policies are determined by the prospects of funding by Congress.

3. Its manned space programs have been nowhere as scientifically
productive as the unmanned programs.

4. It has ceased to become "cutting edge"

5. The Management outright lied about the cost effectiveness of the STS
as a cargo moving system. The "Ace Trucking Company" canard originated
with NASA.

6. The Management outright lied in its evaluation of the risks in flying
STS missions.

Those nonsensical reasons?

No.

Are you completely unable to follow a thread? I was describing the
non-factual and nonsenical things that "Citizen Bob" was saying (e.g.,
Columbia was destroyed because of bad tile glue, NASA is doing
research for the military with its Mars program, etc.).

I was not defending NASA. I can't imagine what mental deficiency
would cause you to think I was.