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Old August 4th 08, 02:11 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur,sci.astro,alt.astronomy,uk.sci.astronomy,alt.astronomy.solar
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Hi,

I have recently bought a pair of Nikon ATB Monarch 8x42 binoculars
mainly for outdoor use and wildlife observation (I live in East
Central Florida) and I realize that these are less than ideal for
observing stars or planets and that something like a 10x70 (or more)
would be better. Still, since I have three kids which I am
homeschooling, a green laser and a decent astronomy program on my
computers (Kstars) I was wondering what I could do with the binoculars
I have. Is 8x42 really useless for night sky observation on can I see
some planets besides the Moon? What else, if anything, can one
observe with such low power bins?

Many thanks for any pointers!

M.

PS: Any chance of seeing the Space Station?
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Old August 4th 08, 03:03 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur,sci.astro,alt.astronomy,uk.sci.astronomy,alt.astronomy.solar
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I have recently bought a pair of Nikon ATB Monarch 8x42 binoculars
mainly for outdoor use and wildlife observation (I live in East
Central Florida) and I realize that these are less than ideal for
observing stars or planets and that something like a 10x70 (or more)
would be better. Still, since I have three kids which I am
homeschooling, a green laser and a decent astronomy program on my
computers (Kstars) I was wondering what I could do with the binoculars
I have. Is 8x42 really useless for night sky observation on can I see
some planets besides the Moon? What else, if anything, can one
observe with such low power bins?

Many thanks for any pointers!

M.

PS: Any chance of seeing the Space Station?


Your binos are a wonderful instrument for doing astronomy! I recommend that
you get a mount for them, as 1) steadily hand-holding for astronomy is hard
to do, and 2) a mount allows the binos to stay positioned on a target while
you and your children share viewing. This mount is very inexpensive and very
high quality:

http://www.burgessoptical.com/Mounts/TinyTitanII.html

You will need some kind of tripod to attach it to - a simple photo tripod is
fine.

So far as observing goes, if your sky is reasonably dark then there is a
lifetime of astronomy to be done with your binos. This isn't to say that you
might not want more apperture at some point, but rather that you won't run
out of things to observe and study. I am sure that you will get a lot of
tips on what to observe here, and it will be good info. For instance, right
now you can observe Jupiter and up to four of it's moons, as well as Uranus
and maybe Neptune. The Milky Way contains dozens of great targets for
naked-eye and small bino observing. You can't go wrong locating and
observing any of the bright Messier objects that are available (e.g. M22,
M11, M8, M13, and the non-Messier Double Cluster), and your software should
help you with this.

Finally, you should join your local astronomy club, where you will find
folks who are eager to help you and your children figure out how and what to
observe. In fact, I wouldn't argue with you discounting everything else I
have told you, and following whatever advice your club folks give you.

Dennis




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Old August 4th 08, 04:56 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur,sci.astro,alt.astronomy,uk.sci.astronomy,alt.astronomy.solar
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On Aug 4, 3:03 pm, "Dennis Woos" wrote:
I have recently bought a pair of Nikon ATB Monarch 8x42 binoculars
mainly for outdoor use and wildlife observation (I live in East
Central Florida) and I realize that these are less than ideal for
observing stars or planets and that something like a 10x70 (or more)
would be better. Still, since I have three kids which I am
homeschooling, a green laser and a decent astronomy program on my
computers (Kstars) I was wondering what I could do with the binoculars
I have. Is 8x42 really useless for night sky observation on can I see
some planets besides the Moon? What else, if anything, can one
observe with such low power bins?


Many thanks for any pointers!


M.


PS: Any chance of seeing the Space Station?


Your binos are a wonderful instrument for doing astronomy! I recommend that
you get a mount for them, as 1) steadily hand-holding for astronomy is hard
to do, and 2) a mount allows the binos to stay positioned on a target while
you and your children share viewing. This mount is very inexpensive and very
high quality:

http://www.burgessoptical.com/Mounts/TinyTitanII.html

You will need some kind of tripod to attach it to - a simple photo tripod is
fine.

So far as observing goes, if your sky is reasonably dark then there is a
lifetime of astronomy to be done with your binos. This isn't to say that you
might not want more apperture at some point, but rather that you won't run
out of things to observe and study. I am sure that you will get a lot of
tips on what to observe here, and it will be good info. For instance, right
now you can observe Jupiter and up to four of it's moons, as well as Uranus
and maybe Neptune. The Milky Way contains dozens of great targets for
naked-eye and small bino observing. You can't go wrong locating and
observing any of the bright Messier objects that are available (e.g. M22,
M11, M8, M13, and the non-Messier Double Cluster), and your software should
help you with this.

Finally, you should join your local astronomy club, where you will find
folks who are eager to help you and your children figure out how and what to
observe. In fact, I wouldn't argue with you discounting everything else I
have told you, and following whatever advice your club folks give you.

Dennis


Definitely look for andromeda - I shown it to people of all ages
using
binocs, and they've all absolutely loved it (without exception). I
always
expected people to either not see it or not see the significance of
the
little smudge, but they all get it and appreciate what they're seeing.

The other thing is that the milky way itself is cool with binoculars
just
from the feel of going from quite a lot of stars with the naked eye
to
millions and millions. Once you then explain the shape of the galaxy,
where
we are and why you see different numbers of stars in different
directions
again people get really interested...

Then the pleiades aren't bad, and Orions sword is usually visible. As
the
other poster said, jupiters moons are also quite impressive...

Nik
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Old August 4th 08, 05:47 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur,sci.astro,alt.astronomy,uk.sci.astronomy,alt.astronomy.solar
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There is an excellent program called "TUBA" short for - TOURING THE
UNIVERSE THROUGH BINOCULARS ATLAS.
Freeware and can be found at...
http://www.philharrington.net/tuba.htm
D/L link is near the bottom of the page.

Enjoy!

Mark S.
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Old August 4th 08, 07:11 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur,sci.astro,alt.astronomy,uk.sci.astronomy,alt.astronomy.solar
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On Aug 4, 7:11*am, wrote:

Is 8x42 really useless for night sky observation on can I see
some planets besides the Moon? *What else, if anything, can one
observe with such low power bins?


As others have stated, 8x42s can be both useful and enjoyable for
astronomical observations. My own 8x42s have sometimes been my
'instrument of choice' for observing certain celestial objects -- such
as certain comets and Milky Way star fields.

From a *dark* sky many deep sky objects (with the aid of a magnitude 6
star atlas) can be detected with 8x42 binoculars. It can be enjoyable
to relax and simply look around in the night sky with 8x42s even
without an atlas.

As for planets; Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn are easy to
see with the unaided eye. Sometimes Uranus can be seen with the
unaided eye from a sufficiently dark observing site. 8x42 binoculars
will add Uranus and Neptune to the list of visible planets, but expect
to see *no* details on any of those planets.

With suitable white-light solar filters securely attached over the
objectives you'll be able to see sunspots (when there are sunspots to
be seen ;-) A tripod and mount will make it easier to pick out
details (most of which will be quite small) on the sun and moon, but
for most purposes you should be fine using the binoculars hand-held.

PS: Any chance of seeing the Space Station?


The space station is bright enough to be seen easily (looking like a
bright, rapidly moving 'star') with the unaided eye. You can
certainly expect to *see* the space station with 8x42 binoculars, but
you shouldn't expect to see any structural detail.

If you look around in my blog and website you'll probably find 8x42
binoculars mentioned for some of my observations. Such binoculars get
used for astronomy even by people who have larger binoculars and
telescopes.

Bill Greer
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http://cejour.blogspot.com
http://www.rangeweb.net/~sketcher
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Old August 4th 08, 09:11 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur,sci.astro,alt.astronomy,uk.sci.astronomy,alt.astronomy.solar
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Dear friends,

First, I want to thank you all for your replies and encouragements. I
did not expect at all that 8x42 could be used for amateur astronomy
and I am quite delighted.

@Dennis: Jupiter's moons?!?!?! I would never have imagined that. I
will try, thanks!

@ G=EMC^2 : thanks for the tip. I am scouting ebay for some cheapo
bins in the 10x50 12x50 range. I know that this is less than ideal
quality, but this is all that I can afford right now.

@Nik: I will follow on your advice and try to see Andromeda. I can
use Kstars to find it or TUBA (which Mark recommended)

@ Mark: Thanks for the TUBA tip. Though all my computers are GNU/
Linux (I never use Windows or Apple) I got TUBA and installed it via
an emulator (called WINE). It works *perfectly*. Thanks again for
the tip!

@ Saul: I expect that you Celestron 8x56 can get a *lot* more light
than my Nikon ATB Monarch in 8x42. I did consider the Nikon ATB
Monarch in 8.5x56 but I just could not afford them (I got my 8x42 at
200 bucks, so I can hardly complain about the price). I suppose that
42 vs. 56 is a huge difference, but I hope to be able to afford some
decent x56 or even x70 one day :-)

@Bill: thanks for all the info. Is there an easy way to find out
where/when to look for the ISS?
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Old August 4th 08, 11:09 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur,sci.astro,alt.astronomy,uk.sci.astronomy,alt.astronomy.solar
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@Bill: thanks for all the info. Is there an easy way to find out
where/when to look for the ISS?


One of many
http://www.heavens-above.com/
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Old August 4th 08, 11:25 PM posted to sci.astro.amateur,sci.astro,alt.astronomy,uk.sci.astronomy,alt.astronomy.solar
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Dear friends,

First, I want to thank you all for your replies and encouragements. I
did not expect at all that 8x42 could be used for amateur astronomy
and I am quite delighted.

@Dennis: Jupiter's moons?!?!?! I would never have imagined that. I
will try, thanks!

@ G=EMC^2 : thanks for the tip. I am scouting ebay for some cheapo
bins in the 10x50 12x50 range. I know that this is less than ideal
quality, but this is all that I can afford right now.

@Nik: I will follow on your advice and try to see Andromeda. I can
use Kstars to find it or TUBA (which Mark recommended)

@ Mark: Thanks for the TUBA tip. Though all my computers are GNU/
Linux (I never use Windows or Apple) I got TUBA and installed it via
an emulator (called WINE). It works *perfectly*. Thanks again for
the tip!

@ Saul: I expect that you Celestron 8x56 can get a *lot* more light
than my Nikon ATB Monarch in 8x42. I did consider the Nikon ATB
Monarch in 8.5x56 but I just could not afford them (I got my 8x42 at
200 bucks, so I can hardly complain about the price). I suppose that
42 vs. 56 is a huge difference, but I hope to be able to afford some
decent x56 or even x70 one day :-)

@Bill: thanks for all the info. Is there an easy way to find out
where/when to look for the ISS?


I'm sure all are "you're welcome"ing you, Mamadu!

Here's an image that shows where the ISS at any time...

http://www.heavens-above.com/

That site also gives location predictions.

HTH

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine Ellsworth

P.S.: Thank YOU for reading!

P.P.S.: http://painellsworth.net


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Old August 5th 08, 01:07 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur,sci.astro,alt.astronomy,uk.sci.astronomy,alt.astronomy.solar
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On Aug 4, 9:11*am, wrote:
Hi,

I have recently bought a pair of Nikon ATB Monarch *8x42 binoculars
mainly for outdoor use and wildlife observation (I live in East
Central Florida) and I realize that these are less than ideal for
observing stars or planets and that something like a 10x70 *(or more)
would be better. * Still, *since I have three kids which I am
homeschooling, a green laser and a decent astronomy program on my
computers (Kstars) I was wondering what I could do with the binoculars
I have. *Is 8x42 really useless for night sky observation on can I see
some planets besides the Moon? *What else, if anything, can one
observe with such low power bins?

Many thanks for any pointers!

M.

PS: Any chance of seeing the Space Station?




I have the same binos -- purchased them for birding but use them for
astronomy. Last night, I checked out most of the objects around
Saggitarius -- M20, M22, M23, etc. Had no problem with any of them.

Get this book:

Binocular Highlights: 99 Celestial Sights for Binocular Users (Spiral-
bound)
by Gary Seronik

You can purchase the book on Amazon.com or from Sky and Telescope.

The space station is a naked-eye object -- when it's visible, you can
watch it coast across the sky.


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Old August 5th 08, 01:43 AM posted to sci.astro.amateur,sci.astro,alt.astronomy,uk.sci.astronomy,alt.astronomy.solar
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@Iordani, Painius @ Saul: thanks - I will use the "heavens above" to
track the ISS

@Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names: I just ordered the book from Amazon.
Thanks!

PS: this is the most newbie-friendly group I have ever come across!
Thanks guys, you are all great :-)
 




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