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Motions that make life possible
Note; At any time it is possible to take advantage of the graphics and
animations and direct them towards the accustomed empirical ends rather than towards the line of reasoning of Rheticus as a representative of the early heliocentrists.It is the difference between an astronomer and the lowly condition today that takes the same name. The first animation represents the motion of Earth against the motion of Mars as seen from the actual motion of the Earth around the Sun (thus infering heliocentricity ). http://alpha.lasalle.edu/~smithsc/As.../marsmovie.gif The third animation represents the motion of Mars plotted against the background stars as seen from Earth.This is the representation Kepler's used in isolating the motion of Mars while still retaining the principles of infered heliocentricity. http://culturesciencesphysique.ens-l...Mouvement_Mars Keplerian motion as a refinement of Copernican orbital motion still refers back to the inferred orbital motion of the Earth (which in turn infers heliocentricity) but at no time do the background stars or the celestial sphere remain in the observed Keplerian motion of the planets.Ole Roemer in following Kepler resolved the anomalous motion of Io from the Earth's orbital motion against Jupiter orbital motion thus retaining the same thinking of the first heliocentrists but that insight is completely lost in a Newtonian speculative view that refers the resolution of retrograde motion directly to a view centered on Sun. Anyone who argues for Newton is shortcircuiting or arguing against an incredible series of astronomical insights that are linked one to the other by exquisite reasoning that reflects the highest intuitive faculties of man in their power to soothe as much as their ability to present the sheer scale and magnificense of our participation in the motions of the Earth on its axis,around the Sun,around the Mily Way axis and whatever other motions there may be. There has never been a suggestion that it is difficult or that some special intellectual attribute is required, for although it may be initially difficult to impress heliocentric motion as we look out there is always the rotation of the Earth in and out of its own orbital shadow (day/night) to remind us that Copernicus isolated two independent motions,axial and orbital with precession explaining independent axial rotation and retrograde explaining orbital motion. Rheticus "With regard to the apparent motions of the Sun and Moon, it is perhaps possible to deny what is said about the motion of the Earth, although I do not see how the explanation of precession is to be transferred to the sphere of the stars. But if anyone desires to look either to the order and harmony of the system of the spheres, or to ease and elegance and a complete explanation of the causes of the phenomena, by no other hypotheses will he demonstrate more neatly and correctly the apparent motions of the remaining planets. For all these phenomena appear to be linked most nobly together, as by a golden chain; and each of the planets, by its position and order and very inequality of its motion, bears witness that the Earth moves. . . . '" 1540, Narratio Prima The great intuitive side of individuals from which all creative and investigative insights emerge,and astronomy is no exception, requires the some effort to comprehend the line of reasoning that eventually emerges in spectacular stages of growing refinements such as Copernicus- Kepler -Roemer but these things withered with the introduction of guesswork replacing 'intuitive' .Anyone who follows the reasoning of the first heliocentrists which place more emphasis of the observed motions of the other planets from the motions of the Earth rather than jumping to an idealised Sun observed view will take the route of Newtonian disciples who imagine a piece of paper is more profound than going outside and experiencing directly the motions of the Earth. The Newtonian view has led to a mediocrity that may be hard to shake but I have no doubt that some people here have an inkling that there is far more to astronomy than image collecting or a messenger service for speculative theorists.With no other avenue availible it falls on those who look out on the Universe for the love of it rather than those who alone are paid to do it and whoes best interests remain elsewhere. I am absolutely certain that there are people out there who can present the reasoning of the great astronomers far better than I ever can by using animations and graphics for it is an exercise in making the heliocentric experience known to humanity again as opposed to claiming anything.The astronomers have given much and asked for nothing but neither should their works be directed to insincere ends and if anger gives way to disappointment that the rogue smiles at his own deviousness how fake is the smile and the silence when it is not so difficult to recover the joy and excitement of the great sweep of motions on their own terms,motions that make our short lives possible. |
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