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On Dec 30, 11:46*am, Pat Flannery wrote:
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?se...cal&id=6577730 Pat The official 400 page report in PDF format is he http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/298870main_SP-2008-565.pdf It is the most detail accident report I have ever read in my life. I had access to Air Force accident reports while I was in the service, and I read AW&ST accident reports on airline accidents. This report is very very detailed. |
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The press release said, "Trade study on supplemental portable O2 found
a potential candidate that would offer more O2 than the existing system, which would greatly increase survivability for multiple Shuttle emergency launch pad and post landing emergency scenarios. Detailed feasibility assessments are being finalized to determine final SSP implementation plan." Why was there not, in the original design, or at least in the post- Challenger mods when they added the ACES suit and the bailout system, an air supply (say, a 60-minute bottle mounted on each seat) adequate to have everyone sealed in pressure suits throughout the reentry procedure? Crewmembers would still have their PEAPs as an emergency backup. Granted, the CAIB said pressure suits would not have saved the Columbia astronauts, but there are certainly scenarios where they would. Matt Bille Freelance space writer/historian http://mattbille.blogspot.com |
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Matt wrote: Why was there not, in the original design, or at least in the post- Challenger mods when they added the ACES suit and the bailout system, an air supply (say, a 60-minute bottle mounted on each seat) adequate to have everyone sealed in pressure suits throughout the reentry procedure? Crewmembers would still have their PEAPs as an emergency backup. They pointed out the problem with the suits and the onboard oxygen system in the report. When the suits are buttoned up and pressurized, the exhaled air enters the crew module. Since this is a pure oxygen pressurization system and the exhaled air still has a lot of oxygen in it, the cabin oxygen content starts to climb, leading to a fire hazard. That's why the astronauts do their reentry with their visors up, and are only to lower them in the event of trouble. At least some of them did a suit pressurization test prior to reentry, but then raised their visors again and went back to cabin air. Of course pressurizing your suit isn't going to work if you don't have your gloves on, so that was a major slip-up in regards to crew safety, in that three of them didn't have their gloves on when things started to go wrong (as well as one not having their helmet on); it also brings up a possible design problem - when the Shuttle was designed the intention was to have the crew fly without pressure suits...i.e. no gloves. Are the switches and buttons on the control panel too small to be easily manipulated while you are wearing pressure suit gloves? Pat |
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"Pat Flannery" wrote in message
ne... in that three of them didn't have their gloves on when things started to go wrong (as well as one not having their helmet on); As if any of this would have made a difference at 10,000 degrees fahrenheit. |
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M wrote: The official 400 page report in PDF format is he http://www.nasa.gov/pdf/298870main_SP-2008-565.pdf It is the most detail accident report I have ever read in my life. I had access to Air Force accident reports while I was in the service, and I read AW&ST accident reports on airline accidents. This report is very very detailed. It's also 16.3 megabytes in size for anyone who downloads it, so be forewarned. I haven't read it yet, but even the table of contents gives some clue as to the degree of detail it goes into, with investigations of the effects of thermal heating on the soles of the astronaut's boots. One section of the report may lead to a change in space suit design; according to the report the non-form-fitting shape of the space helmets led to the astronaut's heads violently impacting the interior of the helmets as their bodies were flailed around after their upper body restraints failed to lock into place as they were supposed to do when g loads became excessive, so it might be time to either put more padding in the helmet or come up with a soft inflatable type helmet. The pressure suit helmet the Russians use on the Sokol-KV2 space suit during Soyuz ascent and reentry is partially inflatable, as it was on the G5C suits used on the Gemini 7 flight. One thing you could do is rigidly mount a padded helmet to the top of the pressure suit so that it could be rotated around its neck ring, but would keep the astronaut's head from moving around inside the helmet except in rotation. IIRC, aren't they using something like this already on race cars to prevent broken necks in crashes? Pat |
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"Pat Flannery" wrote in message news:-
with investigations of the effects of thermal heating on the soles of the astronaut's boots. What about the part where it investigates the effects of thermal heating on the soles of the astronauts' feet and the palms of their hands? They went too far in my opinion. |
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Pat Flannery wrote: It's also 16.3 megabytes in size for anyone who downloads it, so be forewarned. I haven't read it yet, but even the table of contents gives some clue as to the degree of detail it goes into, with investigations of the effects of thermal heating on the soles of the astronaut's boots. I've started reading it now, and here's the reports recommendations: "Recommendation L1-2. Future spacecraft and crew survival systems should be designed such that the equipment and procedures provided to protect the crew in emergency situations are compatible with nominal operations. Future spacecraft vehicles, equipment, and mission timelines should be designed such that a suited crew member can perform all operations without compromising the configuration of the survival suit during critical phases of flight. (p. 3-38, p. 3-86) Recommendation L1-3/L5-1. Future spacecraft crew survival systems should not rely on manual activation to protect the crew. (p. 3-20, p. 3-44, p. 3-84) Recommendation L1-4. Future suit design should incorporate the ability for crew members to communicate visors-down without relying on spacecraft power. (p. 3-82) Recommendation L2-1. Assemble a team of crew escape instructors, flight directors, and astronauts to assess orbiter procedures in the context of ascent, deorbit, and entry contingencies. Revise the procedures with consideration to time constraints and the interplay among the thermal environment, expected crew module dynamics, and crew and crew equipment capabilities. (p. 3-67) Recommendation L2-2. Prior to operational deployment of future crewed spacecraft, determine the vehicle dynamics, entry thermal and aerodynamic loads, and crew survival envelopes during a vehicle loss of control so that they may be adequately integrated into training programs. (p. 2-10, p. 2-29, p. 3-67) Recommendation L2-3. Future crewed spacecraft vehicle design should account for vehicle loss of control contingencies to maximize the probability of crew survival. (p. 3-67) Recommendation L2-4/L3-4. Future spacecraft suits and seat restraints should use state-of-the-art technology in an integrated solution to minimize crew injury and maximize crew survival in off-nominal acceleration environments. (p. 3-20, p. 3-53, p. 3-87, p. 3-88) Recommendation L2-5. Incorporate features into the pass-through slots on the seats such that the slot will not damage the strap. (p. 3-24) Recommendation L2-6. Perform dynamic testing of straps and testing of straps at elevated temperatures to determine load-carrying capabilities under these conditions. Perform testing of strap materials in high-temperature/low-oxygen/low-pressure environments to determine materials properties under these conditions. (p. 3-27) Recommendation L2-7. Design suit helmets with head protection as a functional requirement, not just as a portion of the pressure garment. Suits should incorporate conformal helmets with head and neck restraint devices, similar to helmet/head restraint techniques used in professional automobile racing. (p. 3-53, p. 3-87) Recommendation L2-8. The current shuttle inertial reels should be manually locked at the first sign of an off-nominal situation. (p. 3-21, p. 3-88) Recommendation L2-9. The use of inertial reels in future restraint systems should be evaluated to ensure that they are capable of protecting the crew during nominal and off-nominal situations without active crew intervention. (p. 3-88) Recommendation L3-1. Future vehicles should incorporate a design analysis for breakup to help guide design toward the most graceful degradation of the integrated vehicle systems and structure to maximize crew survival. (p. 2-87, p. 2-139, p. 3-88) Recommendation L3-2. Future vehicles should be designed with a separation of critical functions to the maximum extent possible and robust protection for individual functional components when separation is not practical. (p. 2-6) Recommendation L3-3. Future spacecraft design should incorporate crashworthy, locatable data recorders for accident/incident flight reconstruction. (p. 2-36) Recommendation L2-4/L3-4. Future spacecraft suits and seat restraints should use state-of-the- art technology in an integrated solution to minimize crew injury and maximize crew survival in off-nominal acceleration environments. (p. 3-53) Recommendation L3-5/L4-1. Evaluate crew survival suits as an integrated system that includes boots, helmet, and other elements to determine the weak points, such as thermal, pressure, windblast, or chemical exposure. Once identified, alternatives should be explored to strengthen the weak areas. Materials with low resistance to chemicals, heat, and flames should not be used on equipment that is intended to protect the wearer from such hostile environments. (p. 3-46, p. 3-63) Recommendation A1. In the event of a future fatal human space flight mishap, NASA should place high priority on the crew survival aspects of the mishap both during the investigation as well as in its follow-up actions using dedicated individuals who are appropriately qualified in this specialized work. (p. 4-5, p. 4-9) Recommendation A2. Medically sensitive and personal debris and data should always be available to designated investigators but protected from release to preserve the privacy of the victims and their families. (p. 4-11) Recommendation A3. Resolve issues and document policies surrounding public release of sensitive information relative to the crew during a NASA accident investigation to ensure that all levels of the agency understand how future crew survival investigations should be performed. (p. 4-11) Recommendation A4. Due to the complexity of the operating environment, in addition to traditional accident investigation techniques, spacecraft accident investigators must evaluate multiple sources of information including ballistics, video analysis, aerodynamic trajectories, and thermal and material analyses. (p. 4-9) Recommendation A5. Develop equipment failure investigation marking (“fingerprinting”) requirements and policies for space flight programs. Equipment fingerprinting requires three aspects to be effective: component serialization, marking, and tracking to the lowest assembly level practical. (p. 3-35, p. 3-63) Recommendation A6. Standard templates for accident investigation data (document, presentation, data spreadsheet, etc.) should be used. All reports, presentations, spreadsheets, and other documents should include the following data on every page: title, date the file was created, date the file was updated, version (if applicable), person creating the file, and person editing the file (if different from author). (p. 4-10) Recommendation A7. To aid in configuration control and ensure data are properly documented, report generation must begin early in the investigation process. (p. 4-10) Recommendation A8. As was executed with Columbia, spacecraft accident investigation plans must include provisions for debris and data preservation and security. All debris and data should be cataloged, stored, and preserved so they will be available for future investigations or studies. (p. 3-85, p. 4-11) Recommendation A9. Post-traumatic stress debriefings and other counseling services should be available to those experiencing ongoing stress as a result of participating in the debris recovery and investigation. Designated personnel should follow up on a regular basis to ensure that individual needs are being met. (p. 4-12) Recommendation A10. Global Positioning System receivers used for recording the latitude/ longitude of recovered debris must all be calibrated the same way (i.e., using the same reference system), and the latitude/longitude data should be recorded in a standardized format.7 (p. 4-25) Recommendation A11. All video segments within a compilation should be categorized and summarized. All videos should be re-reviewed once the investigation has progressed to the point that a timeline has been established to verify that all relevant video data are being used. (p. 2-49, p. 4-23) (recommendation A12 is apparently missing.) Recommendation A13. Studies should be performed to further characterize the material behavior of titanium in entry environments to better understand optimal space applications of this material. (p. 2-46)" (apparently, some titanium structure of the Columbia burned during vehicle break-up.) One reason the report runs to 400 pages is that it's profusely illustrated. Pat |
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Pat Flannery wrote: Recommendation A13. Studies should be performed to further characterize the material behavior of titanium in entry environments to better understand optimal space applications of this material. (p. 2-46)" (apparently, some titanium structure of the Columbia burned during vehicle break-up.) Okay, I'm in 166 pages so far... and _this_ is interesting. The fact that the titanium would actually _burn_ and not just melt was very unexpected. But the recovered titanium parts showed far more damage than they should have from simple heating during the failed reentry. Burning was due to either severe oxidation in the hot air and plasma generated by the reentry, shock wave impingment, or some combo of both. What makes that interesting is that the Lockheed VentureStar SSTO was supposed to use lightweight titanium tiles on its underside as a TPS during reentry. This indicates that that concept may not be workable, and it may have been lucky that the X-33 got canceled when it did... before being converted into a full-scale operational vehicle that would probably fail during its first reentry. Pat |
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On Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:11:48 -0600, Pat Flannery
wrote: Okay, I'm in 166 pages so far... and _this_ is interesting. The fact that the titanium would actually _burn_ and not just melt was very unexpected. ....Which begs explanation of just how much high velocity heat testing has been done to titanium alloys prior to the Shuttle, especially with some of the reentry body concepts such as ASSET. OM -- ]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ |
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