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Old August 10th 03, 03:15 AM
Jon Berndt
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Default SpaceShip one makes first glide flight

Anyone seen this??

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=9986

Also, SpaceDev is in the news with the first full duration firing of it's
offering for powerplant for SpaceShipOne.

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewpr.html?pid=12265

Jon


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Old August 10th 03, 03:34 AM
John Maxson
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Default Burnt DOESN'T CARE About the RCS

Ya, ya, sure. Does posting the link prove you're an ethical
aerospace engineer? Remember BBR, you *don't care*
about the RCS firings during the 51-L ascent.

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Author, The Betrayal of Mission 51-L (www.mission51l.com)


Jon Berndt wrote in message
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Anyone seen this??

http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=9986



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Old August 10th 03, 03:44 AM
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"John Maxson" wrote in message
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Ya, ya, sure. Does posting the link prove you're an ethical
aerospace engineer? Remember BBR, you *don't care*
about the RCS firings during the 51-L ascent.


He sure posts a lot for someone who does not know a lot or care a lot about
RCS. Jorge politely corrects him about the most basic use of first stage
RCS and Jon goes on. Roger read your book but forgot what you wrote about
Gary Coultas. Weird.

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Daniel
Mount Charleston, not Charleston, SC



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Old August 10th 03, 04:03 AM
Jon Berndt
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"Charleston" wrote in message

He sure posts a lot for someone who does not know a lot or care a lot

about
RCS. Jorge politely corrects him about the most basic use of first stage
RCS and Jon goes on.


I am in agreement with Jorge about RCS usage first stage. Would you care to
enlighten me on when an abort was declared by the crew? If I am not
mistaken, the crew cabin had already departed the fuselage when the engines
just beginning to shut down - but regardless, both of our statements stand.

Jon




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Old August 10th 03, 04:15 AM
Charleston
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"Jon Berndt" wrote:
"Charleston" wrote:

He sure posts a lot for someone who does not know a lot or care a lot

about
RCS. Jorge politely corrects him about the most basic use of first

stage
RCS and Jon goes on.


I am in agreement with Jorge about RCS usage first stage.


Of course you agree. He embarrassed you and he is your friend, and he is on
your *team*.

Would you care to
enlighten me on when an abort was declared by the crew?


No. Enlightening you is painful.

If I am not mistaken, the crew cabin had already departed the fuselage

when the engines
just beginning to shut down...


Yes, Jon you are mistaken about when the SSMEs cavitated.

- but regardless, both of our statements stand.

Are you talking about the RCS explosion thing standing? I thought that one
fell over like a straw man;-)

Are you talking about the RCS operating in first stage only as declared by
Jorge standing? Even here you contradict yourself talking about
inadvertant, uncommanded, self correcting software firing the RCS. All with
no proof and a bunch of "IIRC". It's nonsense.

Are you talking about agreeing on when the SSMEs shutdown? What?

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Old August 10th 03, 05:27 AM
Terrence Daniels
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Default SpaceShip one makes first glide flight

Anyone seen this??

Just now. Looks really neat in flight... Art Deco meets B-29 meets X-1.

I hope they make some videos of the flight available for download. For that
matter, I wish they'd offer bigger pictures, my desktop is 1280x960. They
could take a cue from NASA in that regard, though they've got the right
idea.


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Old August 10th 03, 06:31 AM
Jon Berndt
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Default Burnt DOESN'T CARE About the RCS

"Charleston" wrote:

Are you talking about the RCS operating in first stage only as declared by
Jorge standing?


Yes. RCS jets are not commanded in a nominal first stage. They can be in an
abort situation. However, there was no opportunity for an abort in 51L, as
you know.

Even here you contradict yourself talking about
inadvertant, uncommanded, self correcting software firing the RCS. All

with
no proof and a bunch of "IIRC". It's nonsense.


I added the "IIRC" because it was something I read recently and I can't
quote it verbatim. It was contained in an article on the RCS that was in a
two volume set - something like the "Space Shuttle Conference ...". It was
from the early '80's.

I'll probably have these posted before you post your mystery documents.

Jon


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Old August 10th 03, 02:47 PM
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Jon Berndt wrote:

"Terrence Daniels" wrote

Anyone seen this??


Just now. Looks really neat in flight... Art Deco meets B-29 meets

X-1.

An apt description.



I was thinking Buck Rogers, the original one.

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Old August 10th 03, 02:57 PM
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"JazzMan" wrote in message
...
Jon Berndt wrote:

"Terrence Daniels" wrote

Anyone seen this??

Just now. Looks really neat in flight... Art Deco meets B-29 meets

X-1.

An apt description.



I was thinking Buck Rogers, the original one.


Same thoughts here.. must be those circular windows at the nose...




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Old August 10th 03, 06:54 PM
Terrence Daniels
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"Tristaine Brahms" wrote in message
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"JazzMan" wrote in message


I was thinking Buck Rogers, the original one.


Same thoughts here.. must be those circular windows at the nose...


I was originally thinking "1950's sci-fi." If they need nose art, they
ought to see if they can get a license from WB to use "Duck Dogers in the
24th-and-a-Half Century." If they can't get a license they ought to do it
anyway.


 




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