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definition of "rendevous"?
On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 03:49:39 -0500, OM wrote:
"Unacceptable" is defined as taking CT's side for any reason. That's unacceptable. If "CT" were to say that catgirls were cute must we perforce all disagree with that conclusion? Berate Greg for his badly flawed logic, not for the source of it. If upon having the logic discredited Greg then goes back to that source for more of the same... then we'd know that we have a real problem. (No, one mental mistep is not a real problem) Don't just berate Greg, out-argue him... if you can... OM -- Chuck Stewart "Anime-style catgirls: Threat? Menace? Or just studying algebra?" |
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definition of "rendevous"?
On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 09:27:02 GMT, Chuck Stewart
wrote: That's unacceptable. If "CT" were to say that catgirls were cute must we perforce all disagree with that conclusion? ....Chuckles, it's like this: If ~CT screams some of his babble while getting gang raped in the showers down in Killfile Hell, does it really *matter* whether he said something valid? It's the falling tree in the woods argument, meaning if it ain't heard, what difference does it make whether it made a sound or not? Don't just berate Greg, out-argue him... if you can... ....There's no need. He ****ed up by responding to the dip**** rather than leaving him in Killfile Hell for all eternity where he belonged. No ifs, ands or buts. End of story. OM -- ]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ |
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definition of "rendevous"?
From Jud McCranie:
wrote: I don't see the necessity for requiring control. So I would leave that aspect as a qualifier: Two of Saturn's moons are in close orbits and pass close to each other from time to time. Is this a rendezvous? I think not. A sailor can fall asleep in a boat and wake up to find that it has drifted into the dock. This still qualifies as a docking maneuver even though there was no control exerted whatsoever. Asteroids can coalesce. I don't see how that is qualitatively different than rendezvous&docking (other than the fact that they aren't vehicles). It is conceivable that two spacecraft can drift ballistically and come into contact and remain that way. It is clear to me that such spacecraft have attained a rendezvous and docking. So what of two moons? Since they don't maintain a close position, then I would agree that it is not a rendezvous. ~ CT |
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definition of "rendevous"?
On 4 Sep 2006 03:58:29 -0700, "Stuf4"
wrote: So what of two moons? Since they don't maintain a close position, then I would agree that it is not a rendezvous. Vostok 3 and 4 didn't maintain a close position either. --- Replace you know what by j to email |
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definition of "rendevous"?
On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 04:46:12 -0500, OM wrote:
Chuck Stewart wrote: Don't just berate Greg, out-argue him... if you can... ...There's no need. Ah, you can't? Oh well... OM -- Chuck Stewart "Anime-style catgirls: Threat? Menace? Or just studying algebra?" |
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definition of "rendevous"?
On Mon, 04 Sep 2006 15:59:46 GMT, Chuck Stewart
wrote: ...There's no need. Ah, you can't? ....No, that's not the case. You know me better than that. Sometimes it's just best to bitchslap someone who's forgotten he's not supposed to **** around with a troll like that, and hope for the best his ass gets woken up and he realizes that he's ****ed up. And besides, arguing with him implies that he might be right. In this case, because he was giving CT even one iota of the benefit of the doubt that he's not a worthless troll deserving only of derision and killfiling, he was clearly in the wrong. Period. OM -- ]=====================================[ ] OMBlog - http://www.io.com/~o_m/omworld [ ] Let's face it: Sometimes you *need* [ ] an obnoxious opinion in your day! [ ]=====================================[ |
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definition of "rendevous"?
From Jud McCranie:
wrote: So what of two moons? Since they don't maintain a close position, then I would agree that it is not a rendezvous. Vostok 3 and 4 didn't maintain a close position either. This is the essence of the definition at hand: specifying how close it is to be close enough. Wally seems to present a solid case that Vostok 3 and 4 were in different orbital planes, but what he didn't tell you is that Gemini 7 and 6 were in different orbital planes as well, if you examine it with enough precision. This delta drives the need for station keeping. It is conceivable that Vostok 4 be launched into a perfect match of Vostok 3's orbit and they maintain an extremely close position to each other. Had this happened, we can expect that there would be no controversy about achieving this 'first'. So for anyone who rejects the notion that Vostok 3 and 4 did the first rendezvous, they obviously have some unspecified cutoff point. Or conversely, imagine that Gemini 76 occurred first, but Wally failed to close in on the target for whatever reason and for the entire mission got no closer than a few miles. It is easy for me to imagine how quickly NASA would jump at the proclamation that this was the first orbital rendezvous! ~ CT |
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