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Derek Lyons wrote: For that matter, how many of you knew that the U.S. had one of *these*? "http://www.mda.mil/mdalink/images/sbx001.jpg" Anyone who has been reading Allen Thompson's posts for the last couple of years. (Though to be fair, I think his discussion of SBX has been limited to sci.military.naval and alt.war.nuclear rather than the s.s.* groups.) Do you know that things max speed by any chance? Its wake in the photo actually makes it look like it's going faster than a crawl. Pat |
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Pat Flannery wrote: Do you know that things max speed by any chance? Its wake in the photo actually makes it look like it's going faster than a crawl. Cruising speed is 6 - 7 knots, 12-ish km/hr. I wouldn't think it could sprint much faster. |
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Allen Thomson wrote: Pat Flannery wrote: Do you know that things max speed by any chance? Its wake in the photo actually makes it look like it's going faster than a crawl. Cruising speed is 6 - 7 knots, 12-ish km/hr. I wouldn't think it could sprint much faster. It's an oil platform, IIRC...out the North Sea? If that's so, then speed would hardly have been a priority to original builders. McB might have been able to speed it up a little, but... /dps |
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Allen Thomson wrote: Pat Flannery wrote: Do you know that things max speed by any chance? Its wake in the photo actually makes it look like it's going faster than a crawl. Cruising speed is 6 - 7 knots, 12-ish km/hr. I wouldn't think it could sprint much faster. That must look extremely strange coming into port. I found some detailed photos of it under construction: http://bmdsidc.mda.mil/MDA_Photo_Library/sbx.shtm Those are very odd looking ladders- like something out of "The Cabinet Of Dr. Caligari". :-) Pat |
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On 2005-09-30, Pat Flannery wrote:
Cruising speed is 6 - 7 knots, 12-ish km/hr. I wouldn't think it could sprint much faster. That must look extremely strange coming into port. Oil rigs moving are a rather weird sight at first - it looks like a large chunk of dockside infrastructure going for a leisurely Sunday stroll. -- -Andrew Gray |
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snidely wrote: It's an oil platform, IIRC...out the North Sea? If that's so, then speed would hardly have been a priority to original builders. It's a CS-50 (first of type, AFAIK) built to bare-deck specs on speculation for the Norwegian company Moss Maritime by the Vyborg shipyard in Russia. Those are the same folks who did the Sea Launch platform somewhat earlier. After delivery to Norway without equipment, it was sold to Boeing who was acting in MDA's behalf. Subsequently it was towed to Brownsville, TX for initial fitting out with power, propulsion, living quarters and the base ring for the radome. Then it went up the coast to the Kiewit yard in Ingleside, TX, near Corpus Christi, for mounting of the radar. It's now undergoing radar checkout at Ingleside and in the Gulf of Mexico, after which it will go around Cape Horn to its deployment site at Adak. Whether it will sail that journey under its own power or be carried(*) by a heavy-lift ship (Blue Marlin) is apparently now under consideration. Moss has ordered at least one more CS-50 from another Russian yard, SevMash(**) in Severodvinsk. What will be done with it/them is a matter of interest. (*) Sic. There really are ships that can pick up things like SBX and carry them on deck. My brain is still trying to cope with the concept. {**) Formerly makers of fine SSBNs. |
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Derek Lyons wrote: "Ed Kyle" wrote: Ed Kyle wrote: How many knew about this test? For that matter, how many of you knew that the U.S. had one of *these*? "http://www.mda.mil/mdalink/images/sbx001.jpg" Anyone who has been reading Allen Thompson's posts for the last couple of years. (Though to be fair, I think his discussion of SBX has been limited to sci.military.naval and alt.war.nuclear rather than the s.s.* groups.) I don't normally read those groups, but I did review some of Allen's posts and was surprised to find that the hull of this SBX U.S. Navy vessel was built in - and I can hardly believe this - Russia(!) - Ed Kyle |
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On 2005-09-30, Ed Kyle wrote:
I don't normally read those groups, but I did review some of Allen's posts and was surprised to find that the hull of this SBX U.S. Navy vessel was built in - and I can hardly believe this - Russia(!) The Navy does this sort of thing just to confuse you, you know ;-) If memory serves, it was built in Russia for some Norwegians, who eventually sold it to the US. There is a second one being built in Russia; it'll be interesting to see if it goes via a middleman again. -- -Andrew Gray |
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"Allen Thomson" wrote in news:1128042965.949192.94610
@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: (*) Sic. There really are ships that can pick up things like SBX and carry them on deck. My brain is still trying to cope with the concept. Must be semisubmersible, to be able to load/unload something as large as that... --Damon |
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Andrew Gray wrote in
: On 2005-09-30, Ed Kyle wrote: I don't normally read those groups, but I did review some of Allen's posts and was surprised to find that the hull of this SBX U.S. Navy vessel was built in - and I can hardly believe this - Russia(!) The Navy does this sort of thing just to confuse you, you know ;-) If memory serves, it was built in Russia for some Norwegians, who eventually sold it to the US. There is a second one being built in Russia; it'll be interesting to see if it goes via a middleman again. Somewhere in Russia, someone is likely having another policy snit-fit: "Comrades, we've practically given them our best rocket technology!" (Aerojet bought outright the N-1's propulsion technology, lock stock and barrel, and Pratt and Whitney/Lockheed are all over the RD-180, learning how it ticks.) Oh, that was Soviet-era, wasn't it? The New Capitalism has taken over the Communist world, and Marx/Lenin et al are likely spinning in their graves. --Damon |
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