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Did the guy bother to ask Chris H if he minded
if his resource was troffed for email addresses for targeted spam? (It may well be that Chris doesn't mind.) Why, if he wanted to be open and above board, did he not just place an ad on UKAstroAds advertising his alternative site? I agree with you . Chris has done a great job over the years and it was bad form to contact his advertisers in that fasion. |
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"Geoff Smith" wrote in message ... Did the guy bother to ask Chris H if he minded if his resource was troffed for email addresses for targeted spam? (It may well be that Chris doesn't mind.) Why, if he wanted to be open and above board, did he not just place an ad on UKAstroAds advertising his alternative site? I agree with you . Chris has done a great job over the years and it was bad form to contact his advertisers in that fasion. I disagree. I think Chris site is acceptable but far from "great" - probably lots of effort but poor result. One example for all: when you send your advert you can wait up to 5 days (average is 2 or 3 days) to be listed. He did not bother to improve the site even when asked to. ** Every ** new site is very welcome! Thank you Paul for let us know and for your great job! Let us know if you need private sponsorship. |
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"Geoff Smith" wrote in message ... Did the guy bother to ask Chris H if he minded if his resource was troffed for email addresses for targeted spam? (It may well be that Chris doesn't mind.) Why, if he wanted to be open and above board, did he not just place an ad on UKAstroAds advertising his alternative site? I agree with you . Chris has done a great job over the years and it was bad form to contact his advertisers in that fasion. I disagree. I think Chris site is acceptable but far from "great" - probably lots of effort but poor result. One example for all: when you send your advert you can wait up to 5 days (average is 2 or 3 days) to be listed. He did not bother to improve the site even when asked to. ** Every ** new site is very welcome! Thank you Paul for let us know and for your great job! Let us know if you need private sponsorship. |
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I disagree. I think Chris site is acceptable but far from "great" -
probably lots of effort but poor result. I said he has done a "great job over the years" so your quotation is out of context as well as wrong. |
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I disagree. I think Chris site is acceptable but far from "great" -
probably lots of effort but poor result. I said he has done a "great job over the years" so your quotation is out of context as well as wrong. |
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Stephen Tonkin wrote in message ...
Chris.B wrote: Had there been a grain of commercialism then by all means cry foul. [...] No advertising whatesoever except for the astro equipment ads themselves. What do you make of the commercial adverts that appeared on the root page after the site had been up for a few months? (www.astrobuysell.com) Best, Stephen Stephen, I have never told anyone in the UK to go to the root address! Please go only to www.astrobuysell.com/uk - there are no commercial adverts there. The site found in the root address is specifically for Canadian amateur astronomers. It has been running since January 1998 (as a simple text based web page) and in July 2001 it transition to its current database format. The majority of the telescope shops that advertise there are friends of mine whom I have known for many years. These friends help me offset the cost of web hosting, software, computer equipment, etc. Since I had one remaining database available, I thought I'd put it to good use and set up the exact same service for the UK. However, I don't feel very welcome, so perhaps I should shut it down and set it up for another English speaking country? So far this experience has been nothing but a headache (because of this "witch hunt"), and I have enough headaches in my daily work! So I am wondering, what can I do to make ammends? I already sent you a private email apologizing for emailing you direclty, and admitting I should have been more careful. I already apolozied to the entire NG. And I said I would not email anyone else about my web site. I am quite sure if you met me in person you'd probably like me, but unfortuantely we got started on the wrong foot. And perhaps you'd relate to me better if you'd knew that, like you, I enjoy writing about astronomy. In fact I have written many articles on deep sky observing and I have a written a section for the RASC Observer's Handbook. My current project is a presentation at my astronomy club this Wednesday where I will do a review of the SkyWatcher 10-inch Dobsonian. As you can see I really am a true amateur astronomer and not a spammer. This whole buy & sell stuff is a labour of love... something to keep me busy on cloudy nights. I am not out to upset anyone and I really dislike having people hate me. I hope your response will be more friendly and that the "witch hunt" will stop. Best Regards, Paul. |
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Stephen Tonkin wrote in message ...
Chris.B wrote: Had there been a grain of commercialism then by all means cry foul. [...] No advertising whatesoever except for the astro equipment ads themselves. What do you make of the commercial adverts that appeared on the root page after the site had been up for a few months? (www.astrobuysell.com) Best, Stephen Stephen, I have never told anyone in the UK to go to the root address! Please go only to www.astrobuysell.com/uk - there are no commercial adverts there. The site found in the root address is specifically for Canadian amateur astronomers. It has been running since January 1998 (as a simple text based web page) and in July 2001 it transition to its current database format. The majority of the telescope shops that advertise there are friends of mine whom I have known for many years. These friends help me offset the cost of web hosting, software, computer equipment, etc. Since I had one remaining database available, I thought I'd put it to good use and set up the exact same service for the UK. However, I don't feel very welcome, so perhaps I should shut it down and set it up for another English speaking country? So far this experience has been nothing but a headache (because of this "witch hunt"), and I have enough headaches in my daily work! So I am wondering, what can I do to make ammends? I already sent you a private email apologizing for emailing you direclty, and admitting I should have been more careful. I already apolozied to the entire NG. And I said I would not email anyone else about my web site. I am quite sure if you met me in person you'd probably like me, but unfortuantely we got started on the wrong foot. And perhaps you'd relate to me better if you'd knew that, like you, I enjoy writing about astronomy. In fact I have written many articles on deep sky observing and I have a written a section for the RASC Observer's Handbook. My current project is a presentation at my astronomy club this Wednesday where I will do a review of the SkyWatcher 10-inch Dobsonian. As you can see I really am a true amateur astronomer and not a spammer. This whole buy & sell stuff is a labour of love... something to keep me busy on cloudy nights. I am not out to upset anyone and I really dislike having people hate me. I hope your response will be more friendly and that the "witch hunt" will stop. Best Regards, Paul. |
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"Geoff Smith" wrote
Chris has done a great job over the years to which Steve M. responded: I disagree. I think Chris site is acceptable but far from "great" Two points: #1. You are misrepresenting what Geoff wrote. #2. Whatever your personal feelings about the usability of Chris's site, it *still* carries more adverts than any of the pretenders and is probably still the place where you are most likely to sell your kit or find what you want. Best, Stephen -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Stephen Tonkin | ATM Resources; Astro-Tutorials; Astro Books + + (N51.162 E0.995) | http://www.astunit.com + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + |
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"Geoff Smith" wrote
Chris has done a great job over the years to which Steve M. responded: I disagree. I think Chris site is acceptable but far from "great" Two points: #1. You are misrepresenting what Geoff wrote. #2. Whatever your personal feelings about the usability of Chris's site, it *still* carries more adverts than any of the pretenders and is probably still the place where you are most likely to sell your kit or find what you want. Best, Stephen -- + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Stephen Tonkin | ATM Resources; Astro-Tutorials; Astro Books + + (N51.162 E0.995) | http://www.astunit.com + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + |
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Stephen Tonkin wrote in message ...
Chris.B wrote: Had there been a grain of commercialism then by all means cry foul. [...] No advertising whatesoever except for the astro equipment ads themselves. What do you make of the commercial adverts that appeared on the root page after the site had been up for a few months? (www.astrobuysell.com) Best, Stephen Stephen, I have never told anyone in the UK to go to the root address! Please go only to www.astrobuysell.com/uk - there are no commercial adverts there. The site found in the root address is specifically for Canadian amateur astronomers. It has been running since January 1998 (as a simple text based web page) and in July 2001 it transition to its current database format. The majority of the telescope shops that advertise there are friends of mine whom I have known for many years. These friends help me offset the cost of web hosting, software, computer equipment, etc. Since I had one remaining database available, I thought I'd put it to good use and set up the exact same service for the UK. However, I don't feel very welcome, so perhaps I should shut it down and set it up for another English speaking country? So far this experience has been nothing but a headache (because of this "witch hunt"), and I have enough headaches in my daily work! So I am wondering, what can I do to make amends? I already sent you a private email apologizing for emailing you directly, and admitting I should have been more careful. I already apologized to the entire NG. And I said I would not email anyone else about my web site. I am quite sure if you met me in person you'd probably like me, but unfortunately we got started on the wrong foot. And perhaps you'd relate to me better if you knew that, like you, I enjoy writing about astronomy. In fact I have written many articles on deep sky observing and I am a contributing author to the [Royal Astronomical Society of Canada] Observer's Handbook. My current project is a presentation at my astronomy club this Wednesday where I will do a review of the SkyWatcher 10-inch Dobsonian. As you can see I really am a true amateur astronomer and not a spammer. This whole buy & sell stuff is a labour of love... something to keep me busy on cloudy nights. I am not out to upset anyone and I really dislike having people hate me. I hope your response will be more friendly and that the "witch hunt" will stop. Best Regards, Paul. |
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