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Wickramasinge at it again
Apparently now thinks interstellar clouds have dead bacteria in them:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/w...st/8491398.stm I don't know if he drove Hoyle crazy, Hoyle drove him crazy, or if they both ate the wrong kind of cream of mushroom soup one afternoon. Pat |
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Wickramasinge at it again
On Feb 2, 1:03*pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
Apparently now thinks interstellar clouds have dead bacteria in them:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/w...st/8491398.stm I don't know if he drove Hoyle crazy, Hoyle drove him crazy, or if they both ate the wrong kind of cream of mushroom soup one afternoon. Pat This theory came from Hoyle many years ago because of absorption spectra of interstellar dust matched that of dried single celled organisms. In reality, it is fairly plausible. |
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Wickramasinge at it again
" I don't know if he drove Hoyle crazy, Hoyle drove him crazy, or if they both ate the wrong kind of cream of mushroom soup one afternoon. OK Maybe not pollitically correct - but - didn't the British also foster the Flat Earth Society, and groups that believe the Apollo landings were faked in a hanger at Grumman. Kinda sounds like something that would fit nicely into an Old Avenger episode (The Bacteria that Came to Little Dwarkington) , a Quatermaas Movie (Quartermaas, the Defense Ministry and the Bacterial Remnants from Space), or a new Dr. Who episode (The Nebula Bugs Invasion). Actually I'm a big fan of all three but can't help but believe without British eccentricities none would work. |
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Wickramasinge at it again
On Feb 2, 9:52*pm, "Val Kraut" wrote:
" I don't know if he drove Hoyle crazy, Hoyle drove him crazy, or if they both ate the wrong kind of cream of mushroom soup one afternoon. OK Maybe not pollitically correct - but - didn't the British also foster the Flat Earth Society, and groups that believe *the Apollo landings were faked in a hanger at Grumman. Kinda sounds like something that would fit nicely into an Old Avenger episode (The Bacteria that *Came to Little Dwarkington) , a Quatermaas Movie (Quartermaas, the Defense Ministry and the Bacterial Remnants from Space), or a new Dr. Who episode (The Nebula Bugs Invasion).. Actually I'm a big fan of all three but can't help but believe without British eccentricities none would work. There is probably more evidence for Panspermia than for life originating on earth. At least from a statistical standpoint, the probability of life originating in space is many orders of magnitude greater than originating on earth. Comets with copious water and hydrocarbons coming near to stars are much more likely places for it than the hydrocarbon poor early earth. Multiply that by the billions of comets around our sun and by billions of stars close enough for them to be the source of life and the probability of life originating on earth seems relatively low. If a comet spends much time close to its star, it could be teeming with bacterial life and when the comet's volatiles are gone, all that would remain are rocks and dead bacteria. So, it is actually a very reasonable idea. |
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Wickramasinge at it again
Frogwatch wrote:
On Feb 2, 1:03 pm, Pat Flannery wrote: Apparently now thinks interstellar clouds have dead bacteria in them:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/w...st/8491398.stm I don't know if he drove Hoyle crazy, Hoyle drove him crazy, or if they both ate the wrong kind of cream of mushroom soup one afternoon. Pat This theory came from Hoyle many years ago because of absorption spectra of interstellar dust matched that of dried single celled organisms. In reality, it is fairly plausible. I can see a asteroid or comet hit knocking rocks that contain bacteria off of a planet; I can see some of those rocks either on their own or by hitching a ride on a comet traveling to another planet in the same solar system and spreading life there. What I have trouble with is viable bacteria somehow surviving long enough on a comet to reach another star system. If the cold doesn't kill it, the cosmic radiation will. Pat |
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Wickramasinge at it again
Val Kraut wrote:
" I don't know if he drove Hoyle crazy, Hoyle drove him crazy, or if they both ate the wrong kind of cream of mushroom soup one afternoon. OK Maybe not pollitically correct - but - didn't the British also foster the Flat Earth Society, and groups that believe the Apollo landings were faked in a hanger at Grumman. Kinda sounds like something that would fit nicely into an Old Avenger episode (The Bacteria that Came to Little Dwarkington) , a Quatermaas Movie (Quartermaas, the Defense Ministry and the Bacterial Remnants from Space), or a new Dr. Who episode (The Nebula Bugs Invasion). Actually I'm a big fan of all three but can't help but believe without British eccentricities none would work. Hoyle was about the last major supporter of the steady-state universe concept, trying to defend it decades after everyone else had abandoned it for The Big Bang. He and Wickramasinge were most noted for proposing a long time back that outbreaks of flu in British boarding schools were due to the germs from comets floating down to Earth as they passed by: http://scienceray.com/astronomy/do-d...t-controversy/ http://www.space.com/scienceastronom...ce_000121.html That's when the snickering started...but what really finished off Hoyle's once-impressive scientific reputation was The Archaeopteryx Fiasco: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/arch...x/forgery.html At that point it was all over for anyone taking any of Hoyle's more exotic theories seriously. Pat |
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Wickramasinge at it again
Frogwatch wrote:
There is probably more evidence for Panspermia than for life originating on earth. At least from a statistical standpoint, the probability of life originating in space is many orders of magnitude greater than originating on earth. Comets with copious water and hydrocarbons coming near to stars are much more likely places for it than the hydrocarbon poor early earth. Except all the water and hydrocarbons only get warmed up enough to melt when the comet is close to a sun...a period of a few days or weeks at most...the rest of the time the comet is frozen solid, so the life would have to evolve inside of solid ice. And there are plenty of hydrocarbons on Earth now, so where did they all come from if we didn't have any originally? Pat |
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Wickramasinge at it again
Val Kraut wrote:
" I don't know if he drove Hoyle crazy, Hoyle drove him crazy, or if they both ate the wrong kind of cream of mushroom soup one afternoon. OK Maybe not pollitically correct - but - didn't the British also foster the Flat Earth Society, WP says: "In 1956, Samuel Shenton, a Fellow of the Royal Astronomical Society and the Royal Geographic Society took over the Universal Zetetic Society and helped to found the International Flat Earth Society". I suspect he was having a laugh. |
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Wickramasinge at it again
On Feb 3, 1:56*pm, Pat Flannery wrote:
Reminds me of the Man Will Never Fly Memorial Society which gets together every year on the anniversary of the Wright brothers first flight to read scholarly dissertations on the impossibility of heavier-than-air flight. What form of transport do they use to get together, or is their membership local to one city? Oh, of course: they're just joking. It would probably be in poor taste to make Osama bin Laden an honorary member: he is, though, the closest thing to the founder of the Man Will Stop Flying Soon society. John Savard |
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Wickramasinge at it again
Fevric J. Glandules wrote:
WP says: "In 1956, Samuel Shenton, a Fellow of the Royal Astronomical Society and the Royal Geographic Society took over the Universal Zetetic Society and helped to found the International Flat Earth Society". I suspect he was having a laugh. "In your heart, you know it's flat." Reminds me of the Man Will Never Fly Memorial Society which gets together every year on the anniversary of the Wright brothers first flight to read scholarly dissertations on the impossibility of heavier-than-air flight. Their motto is "Birds Fly, Men Drink.": http://www.manwillneverfly.com/ Pat |
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