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Astro: UGC 12342 and UGC 12350
UGC 12342 (PGC 70414) and UGC 12350 are the two main galaxies in the
image. UGC 12342 is the seagull like galaxy and is about 355 million light years away. It is classed as SB? I can't even tell if it is 1 or 2 galaxies. I see nothing indicating it is two but in the 2x enlargement I can see hints that 2 may be involved. How else to explain the messy state it's in. It was picked up by the 2 micron survey so likely has massive star formation hidden behind dust, another indicator of a collision in progress. UGC 12350 is only about 82 to 96 million light years away (depending on who you listen to). So it is just sharing the same field of view with UGC 12342. It is classed as Sm. More interesting is the tiny pair of galaxies east of 12350. They are 2MASX J23053932+1650548 and have a red shift distance of 1.3 billion light years. They appear to be an interacting pair. I can't find anything on them however. While there are a handful of other 2MASX galaxies in the image there is little on them. I took this one the night of August 17, 2009 (UT) and it is my most recent image. This one would have been a difficult one to process the color data using 10 minute subs. I knew this to be the case, that's why I chose it for a test. Instead of my normal 2, 10 minute images for color data in each channel I used 1 20 minute for each color. The result was a very noticeable drop in noise level as only it contained only one read noise set instead of two. It sure made processing the color data easier and the colors a lot less noisy. UGC 12350's faint disk would have been full of red and green speckles I'd have had to deal with but they never even showed up. This greatly reduced my processing time. It's likely I'll be using 20 minute sub frames for color in the future. Still have to test that with the luminosity data however. I'm not so sure it will be as much help in the luminosity data. For instance focus accuracy is a minor issue in color data but major in luminosity. I'm not sure my temperature compensation routines are accurate enough for 20 minutes on nights of rapidly dropping temperatures for instance. They aren't for 30 minute subs when using Ha. I have to limit that to nights that don't have a rapid temperature drop. These galaxies are located in Pegasus just north of Markab the southwest star of the Great Square of Pegasus and at the base of the horse's neck. I've included a 2x enlargement of UGC 12342 better showing its very weird detail. 14" LX200R @ f/10, L=4x10', RGB=1x20'x3, STL-11000XM, Paramount ME Rick |
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Astro: UGC 12342 and UGC 12350
I just love these twisties
Wouldn't it be great to have amazing seeing and a huge scope so you could really zoom in on these puppies? "Rick Johnson" wrote in message . com... UGC 12342 (PGC 70414) and UGC 12350 are the two main galaxies in the image. UGC 12342 is the seagull like galaxy and is about 355 million light years away. It is classed as SB? I can't even tell if it is 1 or 2 galaxies. I see nothing indicating it is two but in the 2x enlargement I can see hints that 2 may be involved. How else to explain the messy state it's in. It was picked up by the 2 micron survey so likely has massive star formation hidden behind dust, another indicator of a collision in progress. UGC 12350 is only about 82 to 96 million light years away (depending on who you listen to). So it is just sharing the same field of view with UGC 12342. It is classed as Sm. More interesting is the tiny pair of galaxies east of 12350. They are 2MASX J23053932+1650548 and have a red shift distance of 1.3 billion light years. They appear to be an interacting pair. I can't find anything on them however. While there are a handful of other 2MASX galaxies in the image there is little on them. I took this one the night of August 17, 2009 (UT) and it is my most recent image. This one would have been a difficult one to process the color data using 10 minute subs. I knew this to be the case, that's why I chose it for a test. Instead of my normal 2, 10 minute images for color data in each channel I used 1 20 minute for each color. The result was a very noticeable drop in noise level as only it contained only one read noise set instead of two. It sure made processing the color data easier and the colors a lot less noisy. UGC 12350's faint disk would have been full of red and green speckles I'd have had to deal with but they never even showed up. This greatly reduced my processing time. It's likely I'll be using 20 minute sub frames for color in the future. Still have to test that with the luminosity data however. I'm not so sure it will be as much help in the luminosity data. For instance focus accuracy is a minor issue in color data but major in luminosity. I'm not sure my temperature compensation routines are accurate enough for 20 minutes on nights of rapidly dropping temperatures for instance. They aren't for 30 minute subs when using Ha. I have to limit that to nights that don't have a rapid temperature drop. These galaxies are located in Pegasus just north of Markab the southwest star of the Great Square of Pegasus and at the base of the horse's neck. I've included a 2x enlargement of UGC 12342 better showing its very weird detail. 14" LX200R @ f/10, L=4x10', RGB=1x20'x3, STL-11000XM, Paramount ME Rick |
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Astro: UGC 12342 and UGC 12350
Guess you'll have to convince them to point Hubble at it. I checked
their data base and they haven't so far. I'm trying to remember what drew my attention to this one. It was on my todo list with a note that color would require more frames than normal if UGC 12350 was in the frame. So I'd learned something about it somewhere but couldn't track that down. I hate it when I leave myself incomplete notes like that. Rick Richard Crisp wrote: I just love these twisties Wouldn't it be great to have amazing seeing and a huge scope so you could really zoom in on these puppies? "Rick Johnson" wrote in message . com... UGC 12342 (PGC 70414) and UGC 12350 are the two main galaxies in the image. UGC 12342 is the seagull like galaxy and is about 355 million light years away. It is classed as SB? I can't even tell if it is 1 or 2 galaxies. I see nothing indicating it is two but in the 2x enlargement I can see hints that 2 may be involved. How else to explain the messy state it's in. It was picked up by the 2 micron survey so likely has massive star formation hidden behind dust, another indicator of a collision in progress. UGC 12350 is only about 82 to 96 million light years away (depending on who you listen to). So it is just sharing the same field of view with UGC 12342. It is classed as Sm. More interesting is the tiny pair of galaxies east of 12350. They are 2MASX J23053932+1650548 and have a red shift distance of 1.3 billion light years. They appear to be an interacting pair. I can't find anything on them however. While there are a handful of other 2MASX galaxies in the image there is little on them. I took this one the night of August 17, 2009 (UT) and it is my most recent image. This one would have been a difficult one to process the color data using 10 minute subs. I knew this to be the case, that's why I chose it for a test. Instead of my normal 2, 10 minute images for color data in each channel I used 1 20 minute for each color. The result was a very noticeable drop in noise level as only it contained only one read noise set instead of two. It sure made processing the color data easier and the colors a lot less noisy. UGC 12350's faint disk would have been full of red and green speckles I'd have had to deal with but they never even showed up. This greatly reduced my processing time. It's likely I'll be using 20 minute sub frames for color in the future. Still have to test that with the luminosity data however. I'm not so sure it will be as much help in the luminosity data. For instance focus accuracy is a minor issue in color data but major in luminosity. I'm not sure my temperature compensation routines are accurate enough for 20 minutes on nights of rapidly dropping temperatures for instance. They aren't for 30 minute subs when using Ha. I have to limit that to nights that don't have a rapid temperature drop. These galaxies are located in Pegasus just north of Markab the southwest star of the Great Square of Pegasus and at the base of the horse's neck. I've included a 2x enlargement of UGC 12342 better showing its very weird detail. 14" LX200R @ f/10, L=4x10', RGB=1x20'x3, STL-11000XM, Paramount ME Rick |
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Astro: UGC 12342 and UGC 12350
That's a new one for me. Neat little guy. I like the detail in the 2x.
Rick Johnson wrote: UGC 12342 (PGC 70414) and UGC 12350 are the two main galaxies in the image. UGC 12342 is the seagull like galaxy and is about 355 million These galaxies are located in Pegasus just north of Markab the southwest star of the Great Square of Pegasus and at the base of the horse's neck. I've included a 2x enlargement of UGC 12342 better showing its very weird detail. 14" LX200R @ f/10, L=4x10', RGB=1x20'x3, STL-11000XM, Paramount ME Rick ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- Adriano http://www.edmar-co.com/adriano/ |
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Astro: UGC 12342 and UGC 12350
Rick,
Maybe he http://martingermano.com/Film/oldarc...l#anchor579189 Yeah, I still read this group ... Marty Martin C Germano email: Web - film: http://martingermano.com/Film/index.html ccd: http://martingermano.com "Rick Johnson" wrote in message . com... Guess you'll have to convince them to point Hubble at it. I checked their data base and they haven't so far. I'm trying to remember what drew my attention to this one. It was on my todo list with a note that color would require more frames than normal if UGC 12350 was in the frame. So I'd learned something about it somewhere but couldn't track that down. I hate it when I leave myself incomplete notes like that. Rick Richard Crisp wrote: I just love these twisties Wouldn't it be great to have amazing seeing and a huge scope so you could really zoom in on these puppies? "Rick Johnson" wrote in message . com... UGC 12342 (PGC 70414) and UGC 12350 are the two main galaxies in the image. UGC 12342 is the seagull like galaxy and is about 355 million light years away. It is classed as SB? I can't even tell if it is 1 or 2 galaxies. I see nothing indicating it is two but in the 2x enlargement I can see hints that 2 may be involved. How else to explain the messy state it's in. It was picked up by the 2 micron survey so likely has massive star formation hidden behind dust, another indicator of a collision in progress. UGC 12350 is only about 82 to 96 million light years away (depending on who you listen to). So it is just sharing the same field of view with UGC 12342. It is classed as Sm. More interesting is the tiny pair of galaxies east of 12350. They are 2MASX J23053932+1650548 and have a red shift distance of 1.3 billion light years. They appear to be an interacting pair. I can't find anything on them however. While there are a handful of other 2MASX galaxies in the image there is little on them. I took this one the night of August 17, 2009 (UT) and it is my most recent image. This one would have been a difficult one to process the color data using 10 minute subs. I knew this to be the case, that's why I chose it for a test. Instead of my normal 2, 10 minute images for color data in each channel I used 1 20 minute for each color. The result was a very noticeable drop in noise level as only it contained only one read noise set instead of two. It sure made processing the color data easier and the colors a lot less noisy. UGC 12350's faint disk would have been full of red and green speckles I'd have had to deal with but they never even showed up. This greatly reduced my processing time. It's likely I'll be using 20 minute sub frames for color in the future. Still have to test that with the luminosity data however. I'm not so sure it will be as much help in the luminosity data. For instance focus accuracy is a minor issue in color data but major in luminosity. I'm not sure my temperature compensation routines are accurate enough for 20 minutes on nights of rapidly dropping temperatures for instance. They aren't for 30 minute subs when using Ha. I have to limit that to nights that don't have a rapid temperature drop. These galaxies are located in Pegasus just north of Markab the southwest star of the Great Square of Pegasus and at the base of the horse's neck. I've included a 2x enlargement of UGC 12342 better showing its very weird detail. 14" LX200R @ f/10, L=4x10', RGB=1x20'x3, STL-11000XM, Paramount ME Rick |
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Astro: UGC 12342 and UGC 12350
I imaged for some time with 2415 but never did get the quality you did.
I was using a 10" f/5 at the time. I'd have never tried this one with that system yet you got a great image of it. I mainly lurked back then trying to learn. That's possible your post of it was how it got on my list. I know as you posted images with that 14.5" Newtonian I'd often add it to my to do list. I found it when looking for images of it after processing mine. Yours was at the top of Google's search in fact. Stop by more often! Rick Martin C Germano wrote: Rick, Maybe he http://martingermano.com/Film/oldarc...l#anchor579189 Yeah, I still read this group ... Marty Martin C Germano email: Web - film: http://martingermano.com/Film/index.html ccd: http://martingermano.com "Rick Johnson" wrote in message . com... Guess you'll have to convince them to point Hubble at it. I checked their data base and they haven't so far. I'm trying to remember what drew my attention to this one. It was on my todo list with a note that color would require more frames than normal if UGC 12350 was in the frame. So I'd learned something about it somewhere but couldn't track that down. I hate it when I leave myself incomplete notes like that. Rick Richard Crisp wrote: I just love these twisties Wouldn't it be great to have amazing seeing and a huge scope so you could really zoom in on these puppies? "Rick Johnson" wrote in message . com... UGC 12342 (PGC 70414) and UGC 12350 are the two main galaxies in the image. UGC 12342 is the seagull like galaxy and is about 355 million light years away. It is classed as SB? I can't even tell if it is 1 or 2 galaxies. I see nothing indicating it is two but in the 2x enlargement I can see hints that 2 may be involved. How else to explain the messy state it's in. It was picked up by the 2 micron survey so likely has massive star formation hidden behind dust, another indicator of a collision in progress. UGC 12350 is only about 82 to 96 million light years away (depending on who you listen to). So it is just sharing the same field of view with UGC 12342. It is classed as Sm. More interesting is the tiny pair of galaxies east of 12350. They are 2MASX J23053932+1650548 and have a red shift distance of 1.3 billion light years. They appear to be an interacting pair. I can't find anything on them however. While there are a handful of other 2MASX galaxies in the image there is little on them. I took this one the night of August 17, 2009 (UT) and it is my most recent image. This one would have been a difficult one to process the color data using 10 minute subs. I knew this to be the case, that's why I chose it for a test. Instead of my normal 2, 10 minute images for color data in each channel I used 1 20 minute for each color. The result was a very noticeable drop in noise level as only it contained only one read noise set instead of two. It sure made processing the color data easier and the colors a lot less noisy. UGC 12350's faint disk would have been full of red and green speckles I'd have had to deal with but they never even showed up. This greatly reduced my processing time. It's likely I'll be using 20 minute sub frames for color in the future. Still have to test that with the luminosity data however. I'm not so sure it will be as much help in the luminosity data. For instance focus accuracy is a minor issue in color data but major in luminosity. I'm not sure my temperature compensation routines are accurate enough for 20 minutes on nights of rapidly dropping temperatures for instance. They aren't for 30 minute subs when using Ha. I have to limit that to nights that don't have a rapid temperature drop. These galaxies are located in Pegasus just north of Markab the southwest star of the Great Square of Pegasus and at the base of the horse's neck. I've included a 2x enlargement of UGC 12342 better showing its very weird detail. 14" LX200R @ f/10, L=4x10', RGB=1x20'x3, STL-11000XM, Paramount ME Rick |
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Astro: UGC 12342 and UGC 12350
Great picture Rick. Nice field with one "normal" galaxy, the pair and the
bright star. Stefan "Rick Johnson" schrieb im Newsbeitrag . com... UGC 12342 (PGC 70414) and UGC 12350 are the two main galaxies in the image. UGC 12342 is the seagull like galaxy and is about 355 million light years away. It is classed as SB? I can't even tell if it is 1 or 2 galaxies. I see nothing indicating it is two but in the 2x enlargement I can see hints that 2 may be involved. How else to explain the messy state it's in. It was picked up by the 2 micron survey so likely has massive star formation hidden behind dust, another indicator of a collision in progress. UGC 12350 is only about 82 to 96 million light years away (depending on who you listen to). So it is just sharing the same field of view with UGC 12342. It is classed as Sm. More interesting is the tiny pair of galaxies east of 12350. They are 2MASX J23053932+1650548 and have a red shift distance of 1.3 billion light years. They appear to be an interacting pair. I can't find anything on them however. While there are a handful of other 2MASX galaxies in the image there is little on them. I took this one the night of August 17, 2009 (UT) and it is my most recent image. This one would have been a difficult one to process the color data using 10 minute subs. I knew this to be the case, that's why I chose it for a test. Instead of my normal 2, 10 minute images for color data in each channel I used 1 20 minute for each color. The result was a very noticeable drop in noise level as only it contained only one read noise set instead of two. It sure made processing the color data easier and the colors a lot less noisy. UGC 12350's faint disk would have been full of red and green speckles I'd have had to deal with but they never even showed up. This greatly reduced my processing time. It's likely I'll be using 20 minute sub frames for color in the future. Still have to test that with the luminosity data however. I'm not so sure it will be as much help in the luminosity data. For instance focus accuracy is a minor issue in color data but major in luminosity. I'm not sure my temperature compensation routines are accurate enough for 20 minutes on nights of rapidly dropping temperatures for instance. They aren't for 30 minute subs when using Ha. I have to limit that to nights that don't have a rapid temperature drop. These galaxies are located in Pegasus just north of Markab the southwest star of the Great Square of Pegasus and at the base of the horse's neck. I've included a 2x enlargement of UGC 12342 better showing its very weird detail. 14" LX200R @ f/10, L=4x10', RGB=1x20'x3, STL-11000XM, Paramount ME Rick |
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Astro: UGC 12342 and UGC 12350
Nice to "see" you again Martin. Reminds me of the "good old times" when it
was a bit more lively in this newsgroup... And, as usual, a very impressive image. Stefan "Martin C Germano" schrieb im Newsbeitrag m... Rick, Maybe he http://martingermano.com/Film/oldarc...l#anchor579189 Yeah, I still read this group ... Marty Martin C Germano email: Web - film: http://martingermano.com/Film/index.html ccd: http://martingermano.com "Rick Johnson" wrote in message . com... Guess you'll have to convince them to point Hubble at it. I checked their data base and they haven't so far. I'm trying to remember what drew my attention to this one. It was on my todo list with a note that color would require more frames than normal if UGC 12350 was in the frame. So I'd learned something about it somewhere but couldn't track that down. I hate it when I leave myself incomplete notes like that. Rick Richard Crisp wrote: I just love these twisties Wouldn't it be great to have amazing seeing and a huge scope so you could really zoom in on these puppies? "Rick Johnson" wrote in message . com... UGC 12342 (PGC 70414) and UGC 12350 are the two main galaxies in the image. UGC 12342 is the seagull like galaxy and is about 355 million light years away. It is classed as SB? I can't even tell if it is 1 or 2 galaxies. I see nothing indicating it is two but in the 2x enlargement I can see hints that 2 may be involved. How else to explain the messy state it's in. It was picked up by the 2 micron survey so likely has massive star formation hidden behind dust, another indicator of a collision in progress. UGC 12350 is only about 82 to 96 million light years away (depending on who you listen to). So it is just sharing the same field of view with UGC 12342. It is classed as Sm. More interesting is the tiny pair of galaxies east of 12350. They are 2MASX J23053932+1650548 and have a red shift distance of 1.3 billion light years. They appear to be an interacting pair. I can't find anything on them however. While there are a handful of other 2MASX galaxies in the image there is little on them. I took this one the night of August 17, 2009 (UT) and it is my most recent image. This one would have been a difficult one to process the color data using 10 minute subs. I knew this to be the case, that's why I chose it for a test. Instead of my normal 2, 10 minute images for color data in each channel I used 1 20 minute for each color. The result was a very noticeable drop in noise level as only it contained only one read noise set instead of two. It sure made processing the color data easier and the colors a lot less noisy. UGC 12350's faint disk would have been full of red and green speckles I'd have had to deal with but they never even showed up. This greatly reduced my processing time. It's likely I'll be using 20 minute sub frames for color in the future. Still have to test that with the luminosity data however. I'm not so sure it will be as much help in the luminosity data. For instance focus accuracy is a minor issue in color data but major in luminosity. I'm not sure my temperature compensation routines are accurate enough for 20 minutes on nights of rapidly dropping temperatures for instance. They aren't for 30 minute subs when using Ha. I have to limit that to nights that don't have a rapid temperature drop. These galaxies are located in Pegasus just north of Markab the southwest star of the Great Square of Pegasus and at the base of the horse's neck. I've included a 2x enlargement of UGC 12342 better showing its very weird detail. 14" LX200R @ f/10, L=4x10', RGB=1x20'x3, STL-11000XM, Paramount ME Rick |
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Astro: UGC 12342 and UGC 12350
I planned on moving everything down and keeping the star out but when I
did it sent so many ghosts into the image I gave up trying to find a spot it didn't create ghosts and moved it into the FOV. A bit further in than I intended however. I should check subs but didn't until next day. The trouble with my system, it can run without me! Rick Stefan Lilge wrote: Great picture Rick. Nice field with one "normal" galaxy, the pair and the bright star. Stefan "Rick Johnson" schrieb im Newsbeitrag . com... UGC 12342 (PGC 70414) and UGC 12350 are the two main galaxies in the image. UGC 12342 is the seagull like galaxy and is about 355 million light years away. It is classed as SB? I can't even tell if it is 1 or 2 galaxies. I see nothing indicating it is two but in the 2x enlargement I can see hints that 2 may be involved. How else to explain the messy state it's in. It was picked up by the 2 micron survey so likely has massive star formation hidden behind dust, another indicator of a collision in progress. UGC 12350 is only about 82 to 96 million light years away (depending on who you listen to). So it is just sharing the same field of view with UGC 12342. It is classed as Sm. More interesting is the tiny pair of galaxies east of 12350. They are 2MASX J23053932+1650548 and have a red shift distance of 1.3 billion light years. They appear to be an interacting pair. I can't find anything on them however. While there are a handful of other 2MASX galaxies in the image there is little on them. I took this one the night of August 17, 2009 (UT) and it is my most recent image. This one would have been a difficult one to process the color data using 10 minute subs. I knew this to be the case, that's why I chose it for a test. Instead of my normal 2, 10 minute images for color data in each channel I used 1 20 minute for each color. The result was a very noticeable drop in noise level as only it contained only one read noise set instead of two. It sure made processing the color data easier and the colors a lot less noisy. UGC 12350's faint disk would have been full of red and green speckles I'd have had to deal with but they never even showed up. This greatly reduced my processing time. It's likely I'll be using 20 minute sub frames for color in the future. Still have to test that with the luminosity data however. I'm not so sure it will be as much help in the luminosity data. For instance focus accuracy is a minor issue in color data but major in luminosity. I'm not sure my temperature compensation routines are accurate enough for 20 minutes on nights of rapidly dropping temperatures for instance. They aren't for 30 minute subs when using Ha. I have to limit that to nights that don't have a rapid temperature drop. These galaxies are located in Pegasus just north of Markab the southwest star of the Great Square of Pegasus and at the base of the horse's neck. I've included a 2x enlargement of UGC 12342 better showing its very weird detail. 14" LX200R @ f/10, L=4x10', RGB=1x20'x3, STL-11000XM, Paramount ME Rick |
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