Blueprint for Hydrogen Fuel Infrastructure Development Suppressed

Blueprint for Hydrogen Fuel Infrastructure Development - By National
Renewable Energy Laboratory, outlines a 5-year government-industry action
plan to install the hydrogen fuel infrastructure needed for hydrogen
vehicles when they appear on the market in the next 3 to 5 years. January
2000, 15 pages.

http://www.eere.energy.gov/hydrogenandfuelcells/

Hydrogen and fuel cells have the potential to solve several major challenges
facing America today: dependence on petroleum imports, poor air quality, and
greenhouse gas emissions.

The Hydrogen, Fuel Cells & Infrastructure Technologies Program is working
with partners to accelerate the development and successful market
introduction of these technologies. It is responsible for coordinating the
hydrogen and fuel cell R&D activities of the Offices of Energy Efficiency
and Renewable Energy; Fossil Energy; Nuclear Energy, Science and Technology;
and Science for DOE’s Hydrogen Program.

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Hydrogen Posture Plan

This plan was to be in instituted during 2003-2005.

We have yet to see any progress with the implementation of this plan.

Why?

You guessed it: George Bush and Gulf Wars II

"*" wrote in message
news
Blueprint for Hydrogen Fuel Infrastructure Development - By National
Renewable Energy Laboratory, outlines a 5-year government-industry action
plan to install the hydrogen fuel infrastructure needed for hydrogen
vehicles when they appear on the market in the next 3 to 5 years. January
2000, 15 pages.

http://www.eere.energy.gov/hydrogenandfuelcells/

Hydrogen and fuel cells have the potential to solve several major
challenges
facing America today: dependence on petroleum imports, poor air quality,
and
greenhouse gas emissions.

The Hydrogen, Fuel Cells & Infrastructure Technologies Program is working
with partners to accelerate the development and successful market
introduction of these technologies. It is responsible for coordinating the
hydrogen and fuel cell R&D activities of the Offices of Energy Efficiency
and Renewable Energy; Fossil Energy; Nuclear Energy, Science and
Technology;
and Science for DOE's Hydrogen Program.

--------------------------------------------------------

Hydrogen Posture Plan

This plan was to be in instituted during 2003-2005.

We have yet to see any progress with the implementation of this plan.

Why?

You guessed it: George Bush and Gulf Wars II

"Hydrogen and fuel cells have the potential to solve several major
challenges
facing America today: dependence on petroleum imports, poor air quality, and
greenhouse gas emissions."
Pure nonsense. Hydrogen today is made from fossil fuels, mostly natural gas
sometimes coal and other things. Or, it can be made from electricity which
comes mostly from fossil fuels. So, how does it possibly reduce
dependence???? How does it help air quality???, except locally. Because the
manufacturing of hydrogen and it use have efficiency losses, there would
actually be MORE fossil fuels used in a hydrogen world than without it, with
more CO2, etc. Hydrogen is a scam that is not a solution to our energy
problems. You will never see it go anywhere because of these facts, Bush or
no Bush.
Bob

"*" wrote in message
news
Blueprint for Hydrogen Fuel Infrastructure Development - By National
Renewable Energy Laboratory, outlines a 5-year government-industry action
plan to install the hydrogen fuel infrastructure needed for hydrogen
vehicles when they appear on the market in the next 3 to 5 years. January
2000, 15 pages.

http://www.eere.energy.gov/hydrogenandfuelcells/

Hydrogen and fuel cells have the potential to solve several major
challenges
facing America today: dependence on petroleum imports, poor air quality,
and
greenhouse gas emissions.

The Hydrogen, Fuel Cells & Infrastructure Technologies Program is working
with partners to accelerate the development and successful market
introduction of these technologies. It is responsible for coordinating the
hydrogen and fuel cell R&D activities of the Offices of Energy Efficiency
and Renewable Energy; Fossil Energy; Nuclear Energy, Science and
Technology;
and Science for DOE's Hydrogen Program.

--------------------------------------------------------

Hydrogen Posture Plan

This plan was to be in instituted during 2003-2005.

We have yet to see any progress with the implementation of this plan.

Why?

You guessed it: George Bush and Gulf Wars II

"Hydrogen and fuel cells have the potential to solve several major
challenges
facing America today: dependence on petroleum imports, poor air quality, and
greenhouse gas emissions."
Pure nonsense. Hydrogen today is made from fossil fuels, mostly natural gas
sometimes coal and other things. Or, it can be made from electricity which
comes mostly from fossil fuels. So, how does it possibly reduce
dependence???? How does it help air quality???, except locally. Because the
manufacturing of hydrogen and it use have efficiency losses, there would
actually be MORE fossil fuels used in a hydrogen world than without it, with
more CO2, etc. Hydrogen is a scam that is not a solution to our energy
problems. You will never see it go anywhere because of these facts, Bush or
no Bush.
Bob

Bob M. wrote:

"*" wrote in message
news
Blueprint for Hydrogen Fuel Infrastructure Development - By National
Renewable Energy Laboratory, outlines a 5-year government-industry action
plan to install the hydrogen fuel infrastructure needed for hydrogen
vehicles when they appear on the market in the next 3 to 5 years. January
2000, 15 pages.

http://www.eere.energy.gov/hydrogenandfuelcells/

Hydrogen and fuel cells have the potential to solve several major

challenges

facing America today: dependence on petroleum imports, poor air quality,

and

greenhouse gas emissions.

The Hydrogen, Fuel Cells & Infrastructure Technologies Program is working
with partners to accelerate the development and successful market
introduction of these technologies. It is responsible for coordinating the
hydrogen and fuel cell R&D activities of the Offices of Energy Efficiency
and Renewable Energy; Fossil Energy; Nuclear Energy, Science and

Technology;

and Science for DOE's Hydrogen Program.

--------------------------------------------------------

Hydrogen Posture Plan

This plan was to be in instituted during 2003-2005.

We have yet to see any progress with the implementation of this plan.

Why?

You guessed it: George Bush and Gulf Wars II


"Hydrogen and fuel cells have the potential to solve several major
challenges
facing America today: dependence on petroleum imports, poor air quality, and
greenhouse gas emissions."
Pure nonsense. Hydrogen today is made from fossil fuels, mostly natural gas
sometimes coal and other things. Or, it can be made from electricity which
comes mostly from fossil fuels. So, how does it possibly reduce
dependence???? How does it help air quality???, except locally. Because the
manufacturing of hydrogen and it use have efficiency losses, there would
actually be MORE fossil fuels used in a hydrogen world than without it, with
more CO2, etc. Hydrogen is a scam that is not a solution to our energy
problems. You will never see it go anywhere because of these facts, Bush or
no Bush.
Bob



The only energy source that can fill the shoes mentioned above is wind
power. Making hydrogen with wind-generated electricity is still not
cost-effective. Red herring...move on.

Miles "Tilting at Windmills" Long

Bob M. wrote:

"*" wrote in message
news
Blueprint for Hydrogen Fuel Infrastructure Development - By National
Renewable Energy Laboratory, outlines a 5-year government-industry action
plan to install the hydrogen fuel infrastructure needed for hydrogen
vehicles when they appear on the market in the next 3 to 5 years. January
2000, 15 pages.

http://www.eere.energy.gov/hydrogenandfuelcells/

Hydrogen and fuel cells have the potential to solve several major

challenges

facing America today: dependence on petroleum imports, poor air quality,

and

greenhouse gas emissions.

The Hydrogen, Fuel Cells & Infrastructure Technologies Program is working
with partners to accelerate the development and successful market
introduction of these technologies. It is responsible for coordinating the
hydrogen and fuel cell R&D activities of the Offices of Energy Efficiency
and Renewable Energy; Fossil Energy; Nuclear Energy, Science and

Technology;

and Science for DOE's Hydrogen Program.

--------------------------------------------------------

Hydrogen Posture Plan

This plan was to be in instituted during 2003-2005.

We have yet to see any progress with the implementation of this plan.

Why?

You guessed it: George Bush and Gulf Wars II


"Hydrogen and fuel cells have the potential to solve several major
challenges
facing America today: dependence on petroleum imports, poor air quality, and
greenhouse gas emissions."
Pure nonsense. Hydrogen today is made from fossil fuels, mostly natural gas
sometimes coal and other things. Or, it can be made from electricity which
comes mostly from fossil fuels. So, how does it possibly reduce
dependence???? How does it help air quality???, except locally. Because the
manufacturing of hydrogen and it use have efficiency losses, there would
actually be MORE fossil fuels used in a hydrogen world than without it, with
more CO2, etc. Hydrogen is a scam that is not a solution to our energy
problems. You will never see it go anywhere because of these facts, Bush or
no Bush.
Bob



The only energy source that can fill the shoes mentioned above is wind
power. Making hydrogen with wind-generated electricity is still not
cost-effective. Red herring...move on.

Miles "Tilting at Windmills" Long

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:57:22 -0500, Miles Long wrote:

Making hydrogen with wind-generated electricity is still not
cost-effective. Red herring...move on.

Hydrogen fuel cells have been knows for decades. See first URL.


http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/...sti_id=7334791

http://www.swiftenterprises.net/pub/... %20CELLS.PDF

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...pcp-121299.php

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...pcp-121299.php

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:57:22 -0500, Miles Long wrote:

Making hydrogen with wind-generated electricity is still not
cost-effective. Red herring...move on.

Hydrogen fuel cells have been knows for decades. See first URL.


http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/...sti_id=7334791

http://www.swiftenterprises.net/pub/... %20CELLS.PDF

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...pcp-121299.php

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...pcp-121299.php

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:57:22 -0500, Miles Long wrote:

Making hydrogen with wind-generated electricity is still not
cost-effective. Red herring...move on.

Hydrogen fuel cells have been knows for decades. See first URL.


http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/...sti_id=7334791

http://www.swiftenterprises.net/pub/... %20CELLS.PDF

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...pcp-121299.php

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:57:22 -0500, Miles Long wrote:

Making hydrogen with wind-generated electricity is still not
cost-effective. Red herring...move on.

Hydrogen fuel cells have been knows for decades. See first URL.


http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/...sti_id=7334791

http://www.swiftenterprises.net/pub/... %20CELLS.PDF

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...pcp-121299.php

* wrote:

On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 12:57:22 -0500, Miles Long wrote:


Making hydrogen with wind-generated electricity is still not
cost-effective. Red herring...move on.


Hydrogen fuel cells have been knows for decades. See first URL.


http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/...sti_id=7334791

http://www.swiftenterprises.net/pub/... %20CELLS.PDF

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...pcp-121299.php

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releas...pcp-121299.php





Didn't say that they weren't known, that with current technologies, it
costs more to produce hydrogen than the gains in it's use.

Miles "Still the Bottom Line" Long