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Artemis 3 Mission in 2024
Anyone want to predict whether this will actually happen in 2024?
It would be interesting for sure. Artemis 3 (previously the Exploration Mission-3 or EM-3), is a planned 2024 flight of NASA's Orion spacecraft to be launched on the Space Launch System. It is planned to be the second crewed mission of the Artemis program and the first crewed lunar landing since Apollo 17 in 1972. The landing zone would be in the south polar region. It is planned to have two astronauts on the surface of the Moon for about one week. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis_3 |
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On Wed, 24 Jul 2019, Scott Kozel wrote:
Anyone want to predict whether this will actually happen in 2024? It would be interesting for sure. Artemis 3 (previously the Exploration Mission-3 or EM-3), is a planned 2024 flight of NASA's Orion spacecraft to be launched on the Space Launch System. It is planned to be the second crewed mission of the Artemis program and the first crewed lunar landing since Apollo 17 in 1972. The landing zone would be in the south polar region. It is planned to have two astronauts on the surface of the Moon for about one week. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis_3 Like the F-35, will Orion be ready for mission? |
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On 7/24/2019 8:07 PM, Scott Kozel wrote:
Anyone want to predict whether this will actually happen in 2024? It would be interesting for sure. I'd say improbable... Forgetting minor nits such as the lack of a lander and lunar EVA suits... It'll be interesting to see if they actually have a working upper stage for Block 1 SLS, let alone reliable. If the Delta III experience of DCSS is any indication of a forerunner for ICPS... "The DCSS first flew on 3 Delta IIIs, and failed 2 of 2 times. The booster failed on the third flight, causing the loss of the DCSS before ignitions." ..and.. "The Interim Cryogenic Propulsion Stage (ICPS), a modified 5–meter DCSS, will fly as the upper stage of NASA's Block 1 Space Launch System.[3] Artemis 1, the first flight, is scheduled for late 2020." From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_...c_Second_Stage A 2nd stage failure would certainly be basis for program delays. Dave |
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On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 6:46:32 AM UTC-5, David Spain wrote:
On 7/24/2019 8:07 PM, Scott Kozel wrote: Anyone want to predict whether this will actually happen in 2024? It would be interesting for sure. I'd say improbable... Forgetting minor nits such as the lack of a lander and lunar EVA suits... It'll be interesting to see if they actually have a working upper stage for Block 1 SLS, let alone reliable. If the Delta III experience of DCSS is any indication of a forerunner for ICPS... "The DCSS first flew on 3 Delta IIIs, and failed 2 of 2 times. The booster failed on the third flight, causing the loss of the DCSS before ignitions." ..and.. "The Interim Cryogenic Propulsion Stage (ICPS), a modified 5–meter DCSS, will fly as the upper stage of NASA's Block 1 Space Launch System.[3] Artemis 1, the first flight, is scheduled for late 2020." From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_...c_Second_Stage A 2nd stage failure would certainly be basis for program delays. In addition to having a lander and EVA suits designed and built, need to have some recent experience in using them, including with current astronauts. Also need recent experience with rendezvous and docking, including with current astronauts. All these well supplied in Gemini and the first 3 Apollo/Saturn V missions, before the landing mission. Doing a circumlunar mission and then a landing mission in 2024 sounds good on paper, but I suspect that they need a lot more current experience of the type in the 1960s above, if they want to be successful. |
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says... On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 6:46:32 AM UTC-5, David Spain wrote: On 7/24/2019 8:07 PM, Scott Kozel wrote: Anyone want to predict whether this will actually happen in 2024? It would be interesting for sure. I'd say improbable... Forgetting minor nits such as the lack of a lander and lunar EVA suits... It'll be interesting to see if they actually have a working upper stage for Block 1 SLS, let alone reliable. If the Delta III experience of DCSS is any indication of a forerunner for ICPS... "The DCSS first flew on 3 Delta IIIs, and failed 2 of 2 times. The booster failed on the third flight, causing the loss of the DCSS before ignitions." ..and.. "The Interim Cryogenic Propulsion Stage (ICPS), a modified 5?meter DCSS, will fly as the upper stage of NASA's Block 1 Space Launch System.[3] Artemis 1, the first flight, is scheduled for late 2020." From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_...c_Second_Stage A 2nd stage failure would certainly be basis for program delays. In addition to having a lander and EVA suits designed and built, need to have some recent experience in using them, including with current astronauts. Also need recent experience with rendezvous and docking, including with current astronauts. We already have that with commercial crew. Also, computers are so much better than they were in the 60s, much of rendezvous and docking is automated. This was demonstrated on the first, uncrewed, Dragon 2 mission to ISS. Mostly the astronauts just monitored Dragon 2 as it approached ISS and docked. Honestly, the equations aren't *that* hard. I know a guy who used to help write the Rendezvous and Proximity Operations (RPOP) software for use on laptops during the space shuttle program. That sort of software is now built into the flight control system of new vehicles that are designed to autonomously rendezvous and dock. Jeff -- All opinions posted by me on Usenet News are mine, and mine alone. These posts do not reflect the opinions of my family, friends, employer, or any organization that I am a member of. |
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On Friday, July 26, 2019 at 6:32:13 AM UTC-5, Jeff Findley wrote:
In article , says... On Thursday, July 25, 2019 at 6:46:32 AM UTC-5, David Spain wrote: On 7/24/2019 8:07 PM, Scott Kozel wrote: Anyone want to predict whether this will actually happen in 2024? It would be interesting for sure. I'd say improbable... Forgetting minor nits such as the lack of a lander and lunar EVA suits... It'll be interesting to see if they actually have a working upper stage for Block 1 SLS, let alone reliable. If the Delta III experience of DCSS is any indication of a forerunner for ICPS... "The DCSS first flew on 3 Delta IIIs, and failed 2 of 2 times. The booster failed on the third flight, causing the loss of the DCSS before ignitions." ..and.. "The Interim Cryogenic Propulsion Stage (ICPS), a modified 5?meter DCSS, will fly as the upper stage of NASA's Block 1 Space Launch System.[3] Artemis 1, the first flight, is scheduled for late 2020." From: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_...c_Second_Stage A 2nd stage failure would certainly be basis for program delays. In addition to having a lander and EVA suits designed and built, need to have some recent experience in using them, including with current astronauts. Also need recent experience with rendezvous and docking, including with current astronauts. We already have that with commercial crew. Also, computers are so much better than they were in the 60s, much of rendezvous and docking is automated. This was demonstrated on the first, uncrewed, Dragon 2 mission to ISS. Mostly the astronauts just monitored Dragon 2 as it approached ISS and docked. Honestly, the equations aren't *that* hard. I know a guy who used to help write the Rendezvous and Proximity Operations (RPOP) software for use on laptops during the space shuttle program. That sort of software is now built into the flight control system of new vehicles that are designed to autonomously rendezvous and dock. What about the effort needed to design and build a lander, and EVA suits, and a rover, and then getting recent experience with them? How many preparatory flights would be needed before attempting a landing? |
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"Scott Kozel" wrote in message
... Anyone want to predict whet her this will actually happen in 2024? It would be interesting for sure. Artemis 3 (previously the Exploration Mission-3 or EM-3), is a planned 2024 flight of NASA's Orion spacecraft to be launched on the Space Launch System. It is planned to be the second crewed mission of the Artemis program and the first crewed lunar landing since Apollo 17 in 1972. The landing zone would be in the south polar region. It is planned to have two astronauts on the surface of the Moon for about one week. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis_3 Yeah, I wouldn't be holding my breath on this one, or placing any long term bets. -- Greg D. Moore http://greenmountainsoftware.wordpress.com/ CEO QuiCR: Quick, Crowdsourced Responses. http://www.quicr.net IT Disaster Response - https://www.amazon.com/Disaster-Resp...dp/1484221834/ |
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Artemis 3 Mission in 2024
Anyone want to predict whether this will actually happen in 2024?
It would be interesting for sure. It won't happen until China has a man on the moon. Artemis 3 (previously the Exploration Mission-3 or EM-3), is a planned 2024 flight of NASA's Orion spacecraft to be launched on the Space Launch System. It is planned to be the second crewed mission of the Artemis program and the first crewed lunar landing since Apollo 17 in 1972. The landing zone would be in the south polar region. It is planned to have two astronauts on the surface of the Moon for about one week. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis_3 If weren't for thea Russian Sputnik, would US have a space program? |
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