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  #11  
Old November 30th 05, 07:06 AM posted to alt.astronomy,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.fan.art-bell
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"Art Deco" wrote in message
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Silouen wrote:

Hurray for Canada!
Why in the galaxy are some of you embarrassed by Canada's gigantic step
forward?
Why is it so hard to believe you're not the only ones flying around in
space?

Anyways, that's not why I'm writing to you.
I noticed that some people like to comment rather than to Question.
Your comments are welcome, of course, for I read them and learn from them.
And your skeptical thoughts and comments are unavoidable under the
circumstances.
However, it is your Questioning that elicits a response from me.

I can't do anything about the "no hard evidence until first contact"
thing.
But what I CAN do is wait and see if one of you asks the Right Question.
Who will it Be? will it be You?

Silouen


Translation: Darla is such a drama queen that he/she/it starts threads
with the name of one of his/her/its sockpuppets in the subject line.

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Old November 30th 05, 07:09 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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"Charles D. Bohne" wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 11:24:57 +1100, "BEE"
wrote:

Well said ol' chap!! g

I have had an encounter with a 'being' being in my face simply 'being' a
being...
being a real pain in my rear .. as it got near ...

Yeah!! I was glad to tell it to GO .. as it was GREY and had no real
charm
about it that gave off any sense
that it was being simply a 'being' wangting a kind connestion of any sort.

No one really wanted to know about this encounter let alone believe it g

Anywazzzzzz .. Running around inside my very own beleif system is my own
idea that resembles
the notion of ..... "We are the aliens ... Wrapped up and shut AWAY are
our
true sleves in the true meaning of 'alien .... 'being' ... that is ...

If we (as human beings) were not so caught up in the fundamental BS of it
all we may actually see things as they trully a-)
When we go to the beach and enjoy the beach, do we go into every little
detail of how one soaks up the sun and what it is doing to one's self etc
etc etc ... ?! Not really for most ... Simple terms ... just enjoy the
water and soak up the sun:-)

L
Bee-Ji-cruising!


YOU ARE SO RIGHT, DEAR BEE!
Unfortunately we don't have much sun over here for the moment, ...
days are short and the sky is cloudy .. but we still know there is THE
LIGHT :-)

C.


Yeahhhhh!! You could hydro yourself a little g

B


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Old November 30th 05, 11:02 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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BEE wrote:
"Double-A" wrote in message
oups.com...

Charles D. Bohne wrote:
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 11:24:57 +1100, "BEE"
wrote:

Well said ol' chap!! g

I have had an encounter with a 'being' being in my face simply 'being' a
being...
being a real pain in my rear .. as it got near ...

Yeah!! I was glad to tell it to GO .. as it was GREY and had no real
charm
about it that gave off any sense
that it was being simply a 'being' wangting a kind connestion of any
sort.

No one really wanted to know about this encounter let alone believe it
g

Anywazzzzzz .. Running around inside my very own beleif system is my own
idea that resembles
the notion of ..... "We are the aliens ... Wrapped up and shut AWAY are
our
true sleves in the true meaning of 'alien .... 'being' ... that is ...

If we (as human beings) were not so caught up in the fundamental BS of
it
all we may actually see things as they trully a-)
When we go to the beach and enjoy the beach, do we go into every little
detail of how one soaks up the sun and what it is doing to one's self
etc
etc etc ... ?! Not really for most ... Simple terms ... just enjoy the
water and soak up the sun:-)

L
Bee-Ji-cruising!

YOU ARE SO RIGHT, DEAR BEE!
Unfortunately we don't have much sun over here for the moment, ...
days are short and the sky is cloudy .. but we still know there is THE
LIGHT :-)

C.



Ah, right. Bee would be basking in the summer sun about now!

While we northerners shiver in the cold and darkness.

Enjoy, Bee!


Hey there Double A !!!! :-)

Not basking that much as it is trully hot here however, every now and then
yes !!!g
Hope you are fighting FIT!!!

L
Bee ...



Yes, near the summer solstice the Sun can burn your skin so easily.

Be careful.

Just returned from my exercise in the cold clammy fog.

Thinking of sunny you!

Double-A

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Old November 30th 05, 01:24 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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"Charles D. Bohne" wrote in message
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 23:12:53 GMT, "Silouen"
wrote:

Silouen

Ok, let's try this one: Why the fu*k do you talk of "first contact"

when
alien presence has been here since the begining of human times?


Mr. D. Bohne!
Hello! Darla left a message for you.


How nice of her - tell her I still like her very much :-)


But I'll have to look for it.


Please do ... and post it via e-mail (all my mail-addresses are valid)


Still looking.

You should see this place; what a mess!

Well, better not ;-) I prefer rooms of lower order = less mess ;-)

This is easy question: Always when I speak of "first contact", Mr. Bohne,
please just take for granted that I mean "first official contact with
present day humanity".
You have probably deduced by now that there have been many, many first
unofficial contacts and even several first official contacts with past
societies.
We have been careful to erase most of the evidence of this, but not Too
careful. G

Looks you prefer to be a very secretive society. In my humble opinion
this is the reason for most injustice on this and every other planet.
Open minds are the first constituent of freedom.


Open, closed, who cares?
Minds are not doors to be open and closed.
Minds are inquisitive and fearless entities, "closed" only by anything which
can stop the thinking process.
You could use some "closure", Mr. Bohne.
Injustice is a subjective thing.
You consider secrecy to be unjust.
How just is it to know a secret which, just by knowing it, would kill you?
If you don't think there are secrets like this out there, then you are even
more naive than me!

Or that one: what's so important about the public acceptance of aliens
on this planet?


You really need to ask this?

yes.

Okay, the containment factor alone ought to impress somebody.

we are prisoners, weather we "know it or not".

Right now just a few of you know about seans.
So there are several (meager) attempts made by other humans to blow away
your planet each weak.

yes, we share this world with other criminal minds - and very stupid and
greedy ones at that.

And there is about one serious attempt every month (this has grown from
every two months just ten years ago).

that's an information I don't need, because I can do nothing about it,
nor could any combined effort of several million people. As we all had
to learn in 2002 there was no way to stop the industrial-military
complex from going to war. Moreover whole nations are unable to stop
those arrogant CIA clowns from abusing their countries ...

Public awareness would curtail much of this silliness.

NO - it would not, and it will not.

And our job would get easier.

Keep on dreaming!

Now think about what public awareness would do for your important

pasttimes
like religion and politics.

Again: NOTHING.
Religion is not for people with "awareness", it's for believers -
nothing can stop those from their credo.

Consider what it would be like to really get to know and to befriend

someone
who can travel to other stars, galaxies and clusters.

Who cares about other worlds as long as this one still is a mess?


Who cares about other peoples in other countries when my country is such a
mess?
Who cares about neighbors when my family is such a mess?
Who cares about family when I am such a mess?
Who cares about astronomy when there is so much to deal with on the ground?

The bigger and more fearless your heart, the more things you may care about.
And who cares what others think about what you care about?

Public awareness has served your people well.

Public awareness is created by Murdoch Media and some of his buddies.

Things have a tendency to remain on the "up-and-up".

Yes .. for several millennia by now, to no avail.

And last not least: what is there to gain from aliens who prefered to
stay hidden in the closet for most of our history?

C.

And my answer to this questions is: it's not even as important as
the results of last month's soccer games. .. It might be big news
for a day, and that's all there is to it. A trapped kitten or a bloody
murder-scene has much more news-appeal. Most people are not
interested in "aliens" of any kind.


This does not seem to be a problem to me.
Those who are interested will be tickled pink to see Betelgeuse up close.

How nice, send us a picture. Creating a HUMAN society ON THIS WORLD
has much more appeal to ME.


Better to improve the one you've got?
Why rediscover fire?

A lot of those who are not interested will fast become interested.

May their journeys be long and wide.

Those who don't become interested will, for the most part, take their own
lives.

.. In their own hands?


Most will commit suicide.
A few will install effective blinders on their mind's eye.

You have only to gain from us what we recently gained from our sister
galaxies.

Again: we don't care about "out there", we need HUMANITY and VALUES
down here!


You speak for everyone?
And what makes you think that by befriending an advanced culture, humanity
and values won't be improved on your planet?
We have some experience in this, Mr. Bohne.
Overall, life quality does improve after first contact.
Your life quality -- and ours.

The opportunity to learn, not just by sitting in a chair in front of a
computer, but by exploring firsthand up close and personal.
Everywhere we look there is something new to explore, Mr. Bohne.

Been there, bought the T-shirt, came back .. it's the same old mess!

There is no excuse for ANYONE (including you) to travel far and abroad
without helping to stop human and animal suffering on this planet first.


This is just you being helpless.
And you cannot in your heart defend a being who is obviously not helpless,
and yet who refuses to help.
You prefer being a puppet rather than being free.
Get fearless, Mr. Bohne!

Only then can you possibly understand.

The very first thing to stop being afraid of is -- freedom.

We shall appeal most to those with fearless hearts of the explorer in

each
and every one of you.
Swimmingly!

Silouen

Standing UP-RIGHT
Charles


And searching the sky?
Even porpoises and whales search the sky, Mr. Bohne.
Humans can do so much more with it.

Sil


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Old November 30th 05, 08:10 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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"Charles D. Bohne" wrote in message
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:24:54 GMT, "Silouen"
wrote:

Open minds are the first constituent of freedom.


Open, closed, who cares?

I do.


Minds are not doors to be open and closed.

Oh yes, they are.

Minds are inquisitive and fearless entities, "closed" only by anything

which
can stop the thinking process.

Untrue.

You could use some "closure", Mr. Bohne.

No, I don't need it, thanks.

Injustice is a subjective thing.

I am a subjective being - and I am proud of that.

You consider secrecy to be unjust.

Yes, I do.

How just is it to know a secret which, just by knowing it, would kill

you?

There is no such secret.

If you don't think there are secrets like this out there, then you are

even
more naive than me!

Try me :-)

Who cares about other worlds as long as this one still is a mess?


Who cares about other peoples in other countries when my country is such

a
mess?

Apples and pears? You didn't say that other worlds would need our help.


No, not apples and pears.
This has direct bearing on what you indicated, which was that anybody who
cares about other worlds is a slug for not caring more about your world.
And it has nothing to do with other worlds needing your help.
You sure like to put words in my mouth, don't you?

Who cares about neighbors when my family is such a mess?

Some of us do - I still think I first have to fix my own mess - if there
is one.

Who cares about family when I am such a mess?

Being a part of a family leaves you no choice but to help your
family-members.

Who cares about astronomy when there is so much to deal with on the

ground?

Another distracting, misleading question that doesn't get to my point.


That was PRECISELY your point!
You are not posting to astronomy group because you like astronomy.
You and your following are here to disrupt.
You play the victim, but you are no better than the rest.

The bigger and more fearless your heart, the more things you may care

about.
And who cares what others think about what you care about?

What do I care what you care about what I care about?


You DON'T care -- this much is quite obvious.

...Creating a HUMAN society ON THIS WORLD
has much more appeal to ME.


Better to improve the one you've got?

Yes, much better.

Why rediscover fire?

Indeed, why?


It was you who wrote:

...Creating a HUMAN society ON THIS WORLD
has much more appeal to ME.


So you indicate there is no truly "human" society and that one needs to be
'created'.

Those who don't become interested will, for the most part, take their

own
lives.
.. In their own hands?


Most will commit suicide.

So what? Let them do it.
This place is crowded enough. Anyone who wants to leave is happily
invited to go.


So much for life being precious, eh?

A few will install effective blinders on their mind's eye.

Not much change from the actual situation.

You have only to gain from us what we recently gained from our sister
galaxies.
Again: we don't care about "out there", we need HUMANITY and VALUES
down here!


You speak for everyone?

Why should I? I speak for myself.


You said "we" don't care -- did you not mean 'we' as in 'all of us on
Earth'?
Or were you just referencing 'we' as in your several billion body cells?

And what makes you think that by befriending an advanced culture,

humanity
and values won't be improved on your planet?

What is there that you could teach us now, that you had not been able to
teach us thousand years ago?


There is a list about as long as from here to your outermost planet.

We have some experience in this, Mr. Bohne.

Fine for you. Shove it.

Overall, life quality does improve after first contact.

I would never trust people who seemingly were to chicken to show
themselves on arrival.


Why do you try to provoke me?
Calling me 'chicken' when I know better is quite childlike, Mr. Bohne.
No wonder the coffee boys like you so much.

Your life quality -- and ours.

My life "quality" is good enough, why should I care for "seans"?


Nobody's asking you to care for us.
If you would prefer for me to ignore you, just say the word.

The opportunity to learn, not just by sitting in a chair in front of a
computer, but by exploring firsthand up close and personal.
Everywhere we look there is something new to explore, Mr. Bohne.

Been there, bought the T-shirt, came back .. it's the same old mess!

There is no excuse for ANYONE (including you) to travel far and abroad
without helping to stop human and animal suffering on this planet

first.

This is just you being helpless.

Nonsense. And if I'd ever needed help, I would not expect it from you.

And you cannot in your heart defend a being who is obviously not

helpless,
and yet who refuses to help.

Right - if do not feel obliged to help a dying world and millions of
suffering beings on it, we are better off without you. We don't offer
a free lunch for "visitors" that we did not invite to come.

You prefer being a puppet rather than being free.

What a stupid thing to say. I've been a freeman during all of my
existence.

Get fearless, Mr. Bohne!

Repeating the same old misunderstanding will get you nowhere.
I am a well integrated part of this wonderful cosmos - what would there
be I'd ever had to fear?


To me? it seems that you fear the fear of fear itself.

Only then can you possibly understand.

I do understand perfectly - we don't need you.

The very first thing to stop being afraid of is -- freedom.

Preach that to those who might benefit from it. Fear is none of my
topics.

We shall appeal most to those with fearless hearts of the explorer in
each and every one of you.


I will cast my vote against you.
There is nothing to gain from your sojourns on our world. If you'd ever
had something to give, you hesitated too long to offer it.


You cannot possibly know the first thing about this.

Swimmingly!
Standing UP-RIGHT


And searching the sky?

I leave that to astronomers - I am a warrior.

Even porpoises and whales search the sky, Mr. Bohne.

Nothing worthwhile searching ever came from there.

Humans can do so much more with it.

That's our business - not "yours",
bye!


Bye bye.
Enjoy your being in denial, Mr. Bohne.

Oh! I cannot find Darla's message to you in all this mess.
If I come across it I will send it.
I do remember she included her admiration for what you call your being a
warrior or fighter or something like that.
A necessary occupation on your planet.
Out here, one seldom has to be a warrior, per se.
What do you fight the most? boredom?

You should enemize ignorance and stupidity.
These would be 'neverending' battles for you humans.
Apologies for my 'dad', the Proz's, influence on me.
As you may remember, Pros Pere has a just-a-bit low opinion of human
intelligence and wisdom.
My opinion is tempered by Darla's compassion, but this sure doesn't change
what humanity needs if you are to continue in this universe.

". . . we don't need you."
I'll say this for you, Mr. Bohne, when you don the skeptic's cap, you pull
it waaaayyy down.

Silouen


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Old November 30th 05, 09:43 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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Charles D. Bohne wrote:
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:24:54 GMT, "Silouen"
wrote:

[snip]

What is there that you could teach us now, that you had not been able to
teach us thousand years ago?



Perhaps they are just bringing us along at a measured pace. Hasn't it
ever seemed odd to you that humans sat around for a million years in
the bush as complete ignoramuses and then during the last 6,000 years
have become greatly enlightened? Perhaps it was the arrival of the
Seans and their taking mankind on as a project that slowly began moving
our ancestors toward civilization.

Haven't you ever wondered why often more than one scientist has made
the same discovery at about the same time in history? Perhaps it was
the Seans dropping hints here and there.

Perhaps we owe them credit for just about everything we know. But our
human race, just like an individual, has to start their education in
kindergarten, not at the university.

Double-A

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Old November 30th 05, 10:34 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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"Double-A" wrote in message
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Charles D. Bohne wrote:
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:24:54 GMT, "Silouen"
wrote:

[snip]

What is there that you could teach us now, that you had not been able to
teach us thousand years ago?



Perhaps they are just bringing us along at a measured pace. Hasn't it
ever seemed odd to you that humans sat around for a million years in
the bush as complete ignoramuses and then during the last 6,000 years
have become greatly enlightened? Perhaps it was the arrival of the
Seans and their taking mankind on as a project that slowly began moving
our ancestors toward civilization.

Haven't you ever wondered why often more than one scientist has made
the same discovery at about the same time in history? Perhaps it was
the Seans dropping hints here and there.

Perhaps we owe them credit for just about everything we know. But our
human race, just like an individual, has to start their education in
kindergarten, not at the university.

Double-A


Hey again, Double-A!

I thought Darla had covered this, but maybe not.
Not crazy about humans hearing this for the first time from me, but what the
heck?
Not only was I and a few others on our sean crew actually born in Earth's
sea, but seans have been caring for this solar system since before humans
ever even evolved.
I am not a 'visitor' as Mr. Bohne seems to think I am.
I was born here, I've spent most of my life here, Earth is my home.

May be humans are the visitors?

To keep that from sounding too eerie, let me add that nothing would please
us more than for humans to continue 'visiting' for eons into the future.
It would be really well if you could last longer at least than the
acorn-brained dinosaurs!

Sil


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Old November 30th 05, 10:57 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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From Double-A:

Perhaps it was the Seans dropping hints
here and there.


Perhaps it was they who implanded us with the void-space paradigm circa
80 years ago to keep us fat, dumb and happy. (-: oc

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Old December 1st 05, 12:25 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 22:34:16 +0000, Silouen wrote:

"Double-A" wrote in message
ups.com...

Charles D. Bohne wrote:
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:24:54 GMT, "Silouen"
wrote:

[snip]

What is there that you could teach us now, that you had not been able
to teach us thousand years ago?



Perhaps they are just bringing us along at a measured pace. Hasn't it
ever seemed odd to you that humans sat around for a million years in the
bush as complete ignoramuses and then during the last 6,000 years have
become greatly enlightened? Perhaps it was the arrival of the Seans and
their taking mankind on as a project that slowly began moving our
ancestors toward civilization.

Haven't you ever wondered why often more than one scientist has made the
same discovery at about the same time in history? Perhaps it was the
Seans dropping hints here and there.

Perhaps we owe them credit for just about everything we know. But our
human race, just like an individual, has to start their education in
kindergarten, not at the university.

Double-A


Hey again, Double-A!

I thought Darla had covered this, but maybe not. Not crazy about humans
hearing this for the first time from me, but what the heck?
Not only was I and a few others on our sean crew actually born in Earth's
sea, but seans have been caring for this solar system since before humans
ever even evolved.
I am not a 'visitor' as Mr. Bohne seems to think I am. I was born here,
I've spent most of my life here, Earth is my home.

May be humans are the visitors?

To keep that from sounding too eerie, let me add that nothing would please
us more than for humans to continue 'visiting' for eons into the future.
It would be really well if you could last longer at least than the
acorn-brained dinosaurs!

Sil


There is nothing happening when I'm pressing the "super secret" button.
Should I restart the Level?


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The Way of the Kook:
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in ups.com
Raving Loonie shows his homoerotical masturbatory fantasms:
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in
Alexa "Crackpot" Cameron explains electromagnetism, and how
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"The sun and the earth are 'magnets', each with an iron
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in Message-ID:
Mark "Woody" Ferguson shows his mastery of the English language:
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in Message-MID:
Mark "The illiterate" Ferguson astonishes everybody saying:
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are lines I will not cross unless I believe what I say is the true, I
know more then you."

in Message-ID:
Alexa "Tequila Titsz" Cameron explains world religions:
"The jews roots are islamic."

in Message-ID:
Alexa "dumbass" Cameron shows her knowledge of history:
"WRONGO. There was NO Bible before King James had it written."

in Message-ID:
Alexa "Word Salad" Cameron shows her knowledge of science:
"Einstein never found the double superimposed doubl 'equilateral' triangle."

in Message-ID:
Alexa "Kook of the year 2004" Cameron uses words she doesn't understand again:
"Why is the Pentagon killing American citizens with non-lethal technology?"

in Message-ID:
Alexa "Imnotalexadammit" Cameron has problems with that extra finger
on her hand:
"Why do the Jews use the Star of David as symbolic of the Pentagon, or
Pentagram?"

reminder: Message-ID: in
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Old December 1st 05, 12:30 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Thu, 01 Dec 2005 01:09:53 +0100, Charles D. Bohne wrote:

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 20:10:10 GMT, "Silouen"
wrote:

You are not posting to astronomy group because you like astronomy. You
and your following are here to disrupt. You play the victim, but you are
no better than the rest.


Proves my point: you ARE CLUELESS.
C.


Maybe you forgot to take the pleadian crystal in the previous level.
I suggest you restart the previous level, and when the druid asks you
if you saw any romans you, should answer "right behind you", and when
the druids goes to the back of the tree to check for romans,
you click the root at the left and a secret cupboard opens,
where you can take the crystal.


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Usenet Valhalla Circle #19 & #21
Bartlo's hate lits #1:
CEO Alcatroll Labs Inc.

The Way of the Kook:
http://www.insurgent.org/~jhd/kookway.htm

in ups.com
Raving Loonie shows his homoerotical masturbatory fantasms:
"Wank on, twit."

in
Alexa "Crackpot" Cameron explains electromagnetism, and how
the sun has an 'iron core':
"The sun and the earth are 'magnets', each with an iron
based core, and both have an electrical force between them."

in Message-ID:
Mark "Woody" Ferguson shows his mastery of the English language:
"With patients and practice you could be nominated next time around..."

in Message-MID:
Mark "The illiterate" Ferguson astonishes everybody saying:
"Oh, for ****s sake, Gary no matter how angery he thinks he makes there
are lines I will not cross unless I believe what I say is the true, I
know more then you."

in Message-ID:
Alexa "Tequila Titsz" Cameron explains world religions:
"The jews roots are islamic."

in Message-ID:
Alexa "dumbass" Cameron shows her knowledge of history:
"WRONGO. There was NO Bible before King James had it written."

in Message-ID:
Alexa "Word Salad" Cameron shows her knowledge of science:
"Einstein never found the double superimposed doubl 'equilateral' triangle."

in Message-ID:
Alexa "Kook of the year 2004" Cameron uses words she doesn't understand again:
"Why is the Pentagon killing American citizens with non-lethal technology?"

in Message-ID:
Alexa "Imnotalexadammit" Cameron has problems with that extra finger
on her hand:
"Why do the Jews use the Star of David as symbolic of the Pentagon, or
Pentagram?"

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The quote naziwhore Don Ocean stole.


 




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