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"Damon Hill" wrote in message 1... Andrew Gray wrote in : On 2005-09-30, Ed Kyle wrote: I don't normally read those groups, but I did review some of Allen's posts and was surprised to find that the hull of this SBX U.S. Navy vessel was built in - and I can hardly believe this - Russia(!) The Navy does this sort of thing just to confuse you, you know ;-) If memory serves, it was built in Russia for some Norwegians, who eventually sold it to the US. There is a second one being built in Russia; it'll be interesting to see if it goes via a middleman again. Somewhere in Russia, someone is likely having another policy snit-fit: "Comrades, we've practically given them our best rocket technology!" (Aerojet bought outright the N-1's propulsion technology, lock stock and barrel, and Pratt and Whitney/Lockheed are all over the RD-180, learning how it ticks.) Oh, that was Soviet-era, wasn't it? The New Capitalism has taken over the Communist world, and Marx/Lenin et al are likely spinning in their graves. That's ok, they've wrapped them in copper wire, put some magnets around the grave and are using them to power the spot lights used at night to light up the Kremlin. Gotta get something useful out of them. --Damon |
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Allen Thomson wrote:
Oops. Make that "nope." I was reading lbs as kgs. Mea culpa. The LRALT uses two MM II second stages, not one 1st and one 2nd stage. BTW, the document says in Figure 2-3 that the C-17 is a "Military cargo aircraft with capability to extract 42,000 lb." The document is a little ambiguous. The illustration is of a C-17 but the requirements are generic. A C-130H can drop 42k lbs inflight ( 38k for low delivery ) so that's the upper limit for SRALT. A C-17 can drop 60k lbs in a single load or 110k lbs divided. I suppose the single-load limit is due to the moment arm of the load on the ramp. -- Andrew Bunting |
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Pat Flannery wrote: What it would be great for is a quick-response ASAT or reconsat launcher, as the C-17 can fly to the desired bearing and position over the ocean, and have the spent stages fall into the sea. You do a direct-ascent ASAT attack with a soft-kill capability and you can nail a enemy satellite while it's outside their tracking coverage and get plausible deniability in regards to its destruction. Shades of the F15/MHV ASAT. I don't recall seeing any references of its capability to launch in the southern hemisphere below the groundtrack of the Soviet early warning sats in Molniya orbits and nail them coming around perigee. |
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Mike Chan wrote: Shades of the F15/MHV ASAT. I don't recall seeing any references of its capability to launch in the southern hemisphere below the groundtrack of the Soviet early warning sats in Molniya orbits and nail them coming around perigee. You stick a small, non-nuclear EMP warhead on it (we have these for cruise missiles) get it within a mile or so of the target satellite on a direct ascent trajectory, and set it off; for all your opponent knows his satellite just suffered a electrical malfunction. The debris from the interceptor missile falls back down into the sea. Those ones in Molniya orbits would make very tempting targets at their perigees. The Navy Space Cruiser project was apparently designed with quick-response covert satellite destruction in less than one orbit as part of its mission: http://www.astronautix.com/craft/spauiser.htm http://www.up-ship.com/apr/extras/scruiser1.htm Pat |
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Pat Flannery wrote: Mike Chan wrote: Shades of the F15/MHV ASAT. I don't recall seeing any references of its capability to launch in the southern hemisphere below the groundtrack of the Soviet early warning sats in Molniya orbits and nail them coming around perigee. You stick a small, non-nuclear EMP warhead on it (we have these for cruise missiles) get it within a mile or so of the target satellite on a direct ascent trajectory, and set it off; for all your opponent knows his satellite just suffered a electrical malfunction. The debris from the interceptor missile falls back down into the sea. Those ones in Molniya orbits would make very tempting targets at their perigees. The Navy Space Cruiser project was apparently designed with quick-response covert satellite destruction in less than one orbit as part of its mission: http://www.astronautix.com/craft/spauiser.htm http://www.up-ship.com/apr/extras/scruiser1.htm Pat "Recovery of a payload from space using the N-wing parafoil was demonstrated in classified tests." Is there any info about this test? - Ed Kyle |
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Ed Kyle wrote: "Recovery of a payload from space using the N-wing parafoil was demonstrated in classified tests." Is there any info about this test? None I've ever read; but I can think of something that could have carried it and was recovered: http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/space_flight/sf0b.htm There's also this thing, which bears a passing resemblence to the Space Cruiser: http://www.astronautix.com/craft/boohicle.htm And this program: http://www.astronautix.com/craft/hgv.htm Pat Pat |
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Pat Flannery wrote: You stick a small, non-nuclear EMP warhead on it (we have these for cruise missiles) get it within a mile or so of the target satellite on a direct ascent trajectory, and set it off; for all your opponent knows his satellite just suffered a electrical malfunction. That is assuming said opponent's satellite does not employ design techniques validated by opponent's equivalent of "Huron King" -- http://nuclearweaponarchive.org/Usa/Tests/Nts.html |
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