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Our Taboo/Nondisclosure Moon
It seems that our trusty moon, of having represented such a forced
global warming mascon to us, is still more off-limits than Venus, whereas Venus is simply need-to-know or Old Testament sequestered for the moment (in mainstream damage-control because Venus simply isn't as old as Earth, and worse yet, we wouldn't be the first to having set a hot foot on Venus). Speaking a little about 'microgravity'; as such it's actually hard to come by unless you're in a fast LEO orbit and therefore having to push yourself through 8 km/s of headwinds (worse yet if you're in retrograde mode), or simply best if you are out and about while literally hanging nearly effortlessly around or rather within our moon's interactive L1 nullification zone. If we're intent upon going for other planets or other moons of such other planets, as such we could really use our moon's L1 for accommodating our next ISS or whatever POOF or Clarke Station. In fact, if we're merely going for our moon it's rather nifty if not essential for having the mission command platform as coasting safely and efficiently at r34 and thereby sustaining a velocity of roughly 866 m/s with respect to Earth, as within this ME-L1 pocket of nearby space that's about as devoid of atoms as it gets. 0) Our moon's L1 isn't a cheap date, nor is it not complex. You'll need more than a good slide rule or pocket calculator if planning upon fully utilizing this nifty interactive space that's so nearby. In other words, all morons and/or the dumb and dumber sorts of snookered fools, especially naysayer's, need not apply. 1) Anything deployed at our moon's L1 starts off small, and it grows to suit. 2) From then on. it only gets as big and/or as complex as you'd like it to get. 3) Because of what this LSE-CM/ISS represents, it's not going to happen overnight. My previously suggested 1e9 m3 CM/ISS abode or space depot that's capable of becoming worth 256e6 tonnes is not an all or nothing sort of super Clarke Station on steroids. For starters, it's simply quite a bit larger, it's placed a wee bit further towards Earth (averaging 60,830 km = 861 km/s to 62,568 km = 856 m/s), as well as it's multi-tethered directly to the moon, and there are a few interactive elements involved. The massive hull or shell of this CM/ISS may or may not have to spin, as there are personal artificial gravity alternatives that would function from within this well shielded environment. The LSE-CM/ISS can eventually reside at the moon's 34r (59,092 km), if not right at L1 once the tether dipole element is extended to within 4r (25,512 km) of Earth. Over time the affect of this installation would somewhat moderate the elliptical lunar orbit and even reduce and/or eliminate the rate of recession, whereas some open mindset folks might tend to think this is a good thing. Besides, I'm absolutely certain that China will know exactly what to do. So, why are so many of you folks getting yourselves so gosh darn huffy or otherwise naysay about all of this? Just because you don't have a masters degree in Chinese Mandarin doesn't mean that we're out of luck. That's because China being smarter than us, as such they'll learn our language (as many already have) in order to accommodate their less fortunate (Mandarin illiterate) clients, such as us. http://www.lpi.usra.edu/publications...aryland01b.pdf This fancy enough "Clarke Station" document that's rather interesting but otherwise seriously outdated, not to mention way under-shielded unless incorporating 8+ meters of water plus having somehow established an artificial magnetosphere, or perhaps 16+ meters of h2o if w/o magnetosphere (all necessary because it's parked within 60,000 km from our physically dark and otherwise highly reactive moon that's providing a not so DNA friendly TBI worth of gamma and hard-X-rays), is simply downright wussy about sharing the positive science and habitat/depot considerations for utilizing the moon's L1. In fact, there's hardly a mention of the tremendous L1 benefits to humanity, much less as to space exploration or the daunting task of salvaging our mascon warmed environment, and it's still not having squat to do with any task of actually developing, exploiting or otherwise terraforming the moon itself. - Brad Guth -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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"Brad Guth" wrote in message news:eae6e59d5164ece11a955239ae99df47.49644@mygate .mailgate.org... flush Besides, I'm absolutely certain that China will know exactly what to do. So, why are so many of you folks getting yourselves so gosh darn huffy or otherwise naysay about all of this? Just because you don't have a masters degree in Chinese Mandarin doesn't mean that we're out of luck. That's because China being smarter than us, as such they'll learn our language (as many already have) in order to accommodate their less fortunate (Mandarin illiterate) clients, such as us. if they are so great, what have they contributed in the last 500 years to the rest of the world? sure, some things, but the country of china hardly comes to mind when one thinks of great leaps forward in culture and technology. if they are superior, as you suggest, then let them prove it by achieving great accomplishments. |
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that is the way of communists' dogs' argument and making quarrels.
that is why such communists' dog show their intention to seal dissenters' mouth with various excuse as shameful !!!! what have you canadians contributed to us? we don't have to prove anything to you! you have to borrow money from us !!! die and go to hell !!!!!!! captain. wrote: if they are so great, what have they contributed in the last 500 years to the rest of the world? sure, some things, but the country of china hardly comes to mind when one thinks of great leaps forward in culture and technology. if they are superior, as you suggest, then let them prove it by achieving great accomplishments. |
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Thoughts by a neutral (non-naysaying) sort of chap:
0) You're right about it not being simple to deploy a space station at the moon's Lagrange/libration point L1. Unlike the less useful points L4 and L5, L1 is not a stable position and some form of thrusters would be required to maintain said body in position. 1) The proximity of L1 to the moon (about 36,000 miles I estimate) does make it handy for shopping trips to the lunar surface. 2) Building anything large in null gravity conditions has to be advantageous (nothing new in that realisation). 3) It won't happen overnight, but it must be in the minds of many for the future. The articial body suggested would need to be of very substantial mass to make any noticeable difference to the moon's elliptical trajectory. However, if it eventually did get that big it would result in an increased tidal flux and resultant transfer of more energy to the moon-satellite combination i.e. a more rapid slowing of the earth's rotation and an increased rate of recession, surely? With regard to China: some interesting, emotive (and not always well-informed) opinions exist about that growing super-race. Having spent some considerable time there recently, first working in a high-tech manufacturing environment, then attending trade fairs and subsequently being an avid tourist, I have seen at first hand the phenomenal rate of growth of the country, its industries and its people. The work ethic reigns supreme. Just walk into a MacDonalds in any major city and see the students all burning the midnight oil, bent over their books. Work with the people I did and witness their dedication and respect for the companies they work for. See the fantastic skyscrapers that put even those in the United States in the shade for their transcendental beauty. Take the inland flights and 12 hour train journeys I did and see how many bridges, motorways, new factories and conurbations are in constant development. Whatever anyone thinks they know, based on the old China, should be forgotten now. That country is yanking up its bootstraps and pulling out all the stops. China will rule the planet in a couple of decades. Inevitably, it will then see the same social decline we witness in the western world, but it will retain its hardcore of technological excellence from which there is no turning back. Yes, they have a poor human rights record in our western view, but they also have a billion people to look after, a billion people who make up an engine firing on all cylinders. You're absolutely right - if we don't do it, they will. |
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captain. wrote: "Brad Guth" wrote in message news:eae6e59d5164ece11a955239ae99df47.49644@mygate .mailgate.org... flush Besides, I'm absolutely certain that China will know exactly what to do. So, why are so many of you folks getting yourselves so gosh darn huffy or otherwise naysay about all of this? Just because you don't have a masters degree in Chinese Mandarin doesn't mean that we're out of luck. That's because China being smarter than us, as such they'll learn our language (as many already have) in order to accommodate their less fortunate (Mandarin illiterate) clients, such as us. if they are so great, what have they contributed in the last 500 years to the rest of the world? Up to now, I would say we contributed coolie cheap labor and sweat to the world's industries, humiliations to last for a couple of generations, and a constant boost of their glorious past of gunpowder, compass, printing,... oh, yes, last, but not least, Confucius, the man that tie China to the past and all its filth and beaucratic ways. sure, some things, but the country of china hardly comes to mind when one thinks of great leaps forward in culture and technology. if they are superior, as you suggest, then let them prove it by achieving great accomplishments. |
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"captain." wrote in message
news:QOybh.10758$rv4.9491@edtnps90 if they are so great, what have they contributed in the last 500 years to the rest of the world? sure, some things, but the country of china hardly comes to mind when one thinks of great leaps forward in culture and technology. if they are superior, as you suggest, then let them prove it by achieving great accomplishments. The vast and highly developed plus sufficiently intelligent nation of China has accomplished and thereby contributed as much if not more to the global advancements and survival of humanity than most any other lot of souls you'd care to judge. However, unlike yourself and those of your all-knowing kind, China isn't without its fair share of faults. Therefore, I agree with your closing statement, but have you honest intentions of allowing such to take place, or is promoting WW-III your true intentions? - Brad Guth -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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"TeaTime" wrote in message
You're absolutely right - if we don't do it, they will. Very good topic yaysay feedback. At least it's looking possible that a few others in Usenet land (besides the two of us village idiots) are seeing the not so dim light at the end of that tunnel to China. The locomotive headlight that's so glaring at us because it's in a blue-shift phase as it's arriving from China at such a good rate of velocity, whereas this is the sort of glaring headlight of what we'll need to get ourselves out of the way, that is unless you don't mind getting badly run over by that fast moving train. Too bad we've blown so many constructive opportunities since before WW-II. - Brad Guth -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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"TeaTime" wrote in message
The articial body suggested would need to be of very substantial mass to make any noticeable difference to the moon's elliptical trajectory. However, if it eventually did get that big it would result in an increased tidal flux and resultant transfer of more energy to the moon-satellite combination i.e. a more rapid slowing of the earth's rotation and an increased rate of recession, surely? I'm not quite so sure. First of all, a somewhat less elliptical orbit should represent a good thing for the global warming environment of Earth. Secondly, it's unlikely that any amount of orbital mass that's tethered to/from the moon and that of a substantial CM/ISS at L1 that's basically 99.9% mass as obtained from the moon itself, is ever going to cause a significant variation in the recession. At best the ongoing recession might become slighty moderated. Even my 256e6 tonne CM/ISS plus a few tens of thousands of other tonnes of the primary and dipole tether elements shouldn't cause the moon to fall towards Earth, at least not any time soon. The option of station-keeping a Clarke Station sort of deployment of whatever mass is relatively energy efficient, especially extra nifty if using my Ra--LRn--Rn--ion thrusters. - Brad Guth -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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ha ha h ahaha
this communists' dog is really brain-washed to be such a fool !!! just take hearsay to be screwed in full !!! ha ha hahahaha since this communists' dog had got soul-sold, so cannot see how the dynasty changes so frequently and how anti-harmonic within each dynasty is. liars can only hear to lies-telling and can only rely on such lies !!! that is the only way for communists' dogs !!!! h aha hahahahaah KvekIT wrote: captain. wrote: "Brad Guth" wrote in message news:eae6e59d5164ece11a955239ae99df47.49644@mygate .mailgate.org... flush Besides, I'm absolutely certain that China will know exactly what to do. So, why are so many of you folks getting yourselves so gosh darn huffy or otherwise naysay about all of this? Just because you don't have a masters degree in Chinese Mandarin doesn't mean that we're out of luck. That's because China being smarter than us, as such they'll learn our language (as many already have) in order to accommodate their less fortunate (Mandarin illiterate) clients, such as us. if they are so great, what have they contributed in the last 500 years to the rest of the world? sure, some things, but the country of china hardly comes to mind when one thinks of great leaps forward in culture and technology. if they are superior, as you suggest, then let them prove it by achieving great accomplishments. If you rely on the last 500 years, it is not evident to point out China as a great culture and technology source. But if you go back a little further, China was the most advanced civ of the world. China will be again the most advanced civ soon. Its domination will have left place to european civs for a few centuries. But it is heading for success again. 500 years will be the duration of european domination. What will be next is very hard to predict, but China will soon be back as a powerful empire. -- http://geocities.com/lechergod/predict.htm owner of email declared in http://geocities.com/lechergod that --- REAL --- lechergod is using NNTP-POSTING-HOST : cm218-254-185-182.hkcable.com.hk. all ******* of falsifying "lechergod" had just presented their mothers to be ****ed by lechergod, but are not entitled to use such email. *** THE *******S CANNOT MADE THE SIGNATURE IN VERY THIN COLOUR !!! *** --- Posted via news://freenews.netfront.net Complaints to |
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KvekIT / Date: Thurs, Nov 30 2006 12:24 pm
If you rely on the last 500 years, it is not evident to point out China as a great culture and technology source. But if you go back a little further, China was the most advanced civ of the world. China will be again the most advanced civ soon. Its domination will have left place to european civs for a few centuries. But it is heading for success again. 500 years will be the duration of european domination. What will be next is very hard to predict, but China will soon be back as a powerful empire. I think China represents a rather intellectually powerful empire as is, and certainly scientifically it isn't all that far behind, if at all. It takes spare energy in order to produce/reproduce products and services. China has spare energy and obviously more than a sufficient number of intelligent folks that are not about to let such go to waste. Short of natural disasters or the fiasco of WW-III, there's nothing keeping China from the holy grail of owning our moon's L1. - Brad Guth -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG |
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