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Baikonur -- maintenance on outdoor 'Buran'
Baikonur -- maintenance on outdoor 'Buran'
See the CUBESAT home page, interesting photo of maintenance on exterior of the outside-parked Buran. What's that new metal building on the right -- I don't remember anything that close from my last visit? http://cubesat.atl.calpoly.edu/pages...r-launch-2.php |
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Baikonur 'Buran' -- expelled from bldg 254 to sit by museum
I got a wonderful answer to my emailed query (below) about an odd 'Buran'
photo from Baykonur. Turns out, the 'Buran' inside bldg 254 (which I've always been told was a flight vehicle, not a mockup -- true?) has been moved out and parked by the museum building. There are great photos of the road transport past snow-covered steppes, in the second link. On Mar 26, 2007, at 11:33 PM, Jim Oberg wrote: See the CUBESAT home page, interesting photo of maintenance on exterior of the outside-parked Buran. What's that new metal building on the right -- I don't remember anything that close from my last visit? http://cubesat.atl.calpoly.edu/pages...r-launch-2.php Subject: [FPSPACE] Baikonur -- maintenance on outdoor 'Buran' From: "David Anderman" Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:18 AM Jim: This mockup was moved to a museum at Baikonur at few weeks ago: http://www.buran-energia.com/blog/20.../lang-pref/en/ ----------- Text: from that site -- OK-M The test shuttle OK-M was moved few days ago from the area 254, to be parked near the Baikonur's museum (area 2). May be it will be restaured or stocked in better conditions. Numerous projects were studied to use this mock-up and emphasize the heritage which it represents, but all failed because they required too important investments. In the second half of January the authorities, under the management of the first assistant Tomchuka V. R. of ??? of Baikonur, finally decided to move the mock-up towards the Baikonur's museum because it is the cheapest solution. The outside of the shuttle will be restored, a cabin with cosmonauts' seats will be installed there and a showroom will be fitted out in the payload bay. It is a second life for this shuttle which takes place at the time of the twentieth anniversary of the Energia's first launch (in May 17th, 1987). Hi-res of road transport: http://www.buran-energia.com/blog/wp...3/p1250964.JPG |
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Baikonur 'Buran' -- expelled from bldg 254 to sit by museum
Jim Oberg wrote: I got a wonderful answer to my emailed query (below) about an odd 'Buran' photo from Baykonur. Turns out, the 'Buran' inside bldg 254 (which I've always been told was a flight vehicle, not a mockup -- true?) Here's data on OK-M: http://www.k26.com/buran/Future/OK-M..._ok-ml-1_.html From this page, with details on all the Buran shuttles fates: http://www.k26.com/buran/Future/ener...re_are_th.html Pat |
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Baikonur 'Buran' -- expelled from bldg 254 to sit by museum
On Mar 27, 7:33 am, "Jim Oberg" wrote:
I got a wonderful answer to my emailed query (below) about an odd 'Buran' photo from Baykonur. Turns out, the 'Buran' inside bldg 254 (which I've always been told was a flight vehicle, not a mockup -- true?) has been moved out and parked by the museum building. There are great photos of the road transport past snow-covered steppes, in the second link. On Mar 26, 2007, at 11:33 PM, Jim Oberg wrote: See the CUBESAT home page, interesting photo of maintenance on exterior of the outside-parked Buran. What's that new metal building on the right -- I don't remember anything that close from my last visit?http://cubesat.atl.calpoly.edu/pages...r-launch-2.php Subject: [FPSPACE] Baikonur -- maintenance on outdoor 'Buran' From: "David Anderman" Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:18 AM Jim: This mockup was moved to a museum at Baikonur at few weeks ago:http://www.buran-energia.com/blog/20.../lang-pref/en/ ----------- Text: from that site -- OK-M The test shuttle OK-M was moved few days ago from the area 254, to be parked near the Baikonur's museum (area 2). May be it will be restaured or stocked in better conditions. Numerous projects were studied to use this mock-up and emphasize the heritage which it represents, but all failed because they required too important investments. In the second half of January the authorities, under the management of the first assistant Tomchuka V. R. of ??? of Baikonur, finally decided to move the mock-up towards the Baikonur's museum because it is the cheapest solution. The outside of the shuttle will be restored, a cabin with cosmonauts' seats will be installed there and a showroom will be fitted out in the payload bay. It is a second life for this shuttle which takes place at the time of the twentieth anniversary of the Energia's first launch (in May 17th, 1987). Hi-res of road transport: http://www.buran-energia.com/blog/wp...07/03/p1250964... I often wondered why the Russians didn't try to salvage what the could from the Buran destruction and offer it up , parts of it that is, as flown artifacts on the web etc. As I recall there was a bit of national silence drawn over the whole thing for a while after it collapsed. I can't beleive they just upped and tossed it away. Any idea where the debris from the Energia/Buran collapse is today, if it "is"?...............Doc |
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Baikonur 'Buran' -- expelled from bldg 254 to sit by museum
wrote in message oups.com... I often wondered why the Russians didn't try to salvage what the could from the Buran destruction and offer it up , parts of it that is, as flown artifacts on the web etc. As I recall there was a bit of national silence drawn over the whole thing for a while after it collapsed. I can't beleive they just upped and tossed it away. Those folks spent decades being told that capitalism was evil, and to wait for instructions. You can't just flip a switch and decide to be a capitalist. It probably never occured to them that the remains of Buran was a valuable commodity, both as a museum piece *and* fragments to be sold online. |
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Baikonur 'Buran' -- expelled from bldg 254 to sit by museum
"Scott Hedrick" wrote in
: wrote in message oups.com... I often wondered why the Russians didn't try to salvage what the could from the Buran destruction and offer it up , parts of it that is, as flown artifacts on the web etc. As I recall there was a bit of national silence drawn over the whole thing for a while after it collapsed. I can't beleive they just upped and tossed it away. Those folks spent decades being told that capitalism was evil, and to wait for instructions. You can't just flip a switch and decide to be a capitalist. It probably never occured to them that the remains of Buran was a valuable commodity, both as a museum piece *and* fragments to be sold online. The building collapse that crushed Buran was in 2002, more than a year after the Russians sold a Soyuz seat to Dennis Tito. I think it's safe to say they had a *little* experience with capitalism then. -- JRF Reply-to address spam-proofed - to reply by E-mail, check "Organization" (I am not assimilated) and think one step ahead of IBM. |
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Baikonur 'Buran' -- expelled from bldg 254 to sit by museum
Scott Hedrick wrote: Those folks spent decades being told that capitalism was evil, and to wait for instructions. You can't just flip a switch and decide to be a capitalist. It probably never occured to them that the remains of Buran was a valuable commodity, both as a museum piece *and* fragments to be sold online. You've never been over there back in the good ol' Marxist days when the black market ran the country. Those SOBs would have sold their own mother if they thought they could make a ruble off of her. I literally had someone try to buy the coat off of my back in the middle of a Moscow blizzard. :-D After Communism fell, they started peeling the copper plumbing and wiring out of Baikonur's streets, and selling that on the black market. Ask James Oberg, I'm sure he has some great stories about how naive they are when it comes to business. Screw Lenin, this is who really replaced the Czar: http://www.alligator.org/edit/issues...10/ferengi.jpg They are descendants of Vikings, and believe me, it shows. :-D Pat |
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