BB and Its Matter and Anti-matter.

"Sally" wrote in message...
...
. . .
...just maybe...a positron is an area of space that
is lacking an electron. I think that Richard Feymann was thinking along
similar lines with his concept of virtual particles. Stephen Hawking
suggested that, near a black hole event horizon, anti-particles would be
generated from nothingness when their quantum entangled virtual twins
disappear into the singularity. Hence black holes will radiate Hawking
radiation. . . .

Sally

'Lo Sally --

I've been studying this and would like to hear more about it...

I'm familiar with the electron/hole theory in electronics as it
applies to P and N semiconductor materials used in diodes
and transistors...

primary current carriers in N-type materials are electrons,
primary current carriers in P-type materials are holes.

.... but i can't quite marry your above statement about positrons
being areas of space (holes) that are lacking electrons with
the first discovery of the antielectron or positron in the cloud
chamber. That was actually a *particle* that had the exact
same mass as an electron, but moved in a curve that was just
the *opposite* direction that an electron would have moved in
the chamber's magnetic field.

So the question arises, how would an electron-less area of
space be able to leave the bubble track that is left by a positron
when it is created in a cloud chamber?

happy days and...
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We're so clueless of our worth...
Whose sky no longer shines
As we lose our Mother-Earth?

As people we must learn
About the care of planet parts,
To leave the world a better turn--
Empower brand new hearts!

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"Sally" wrote in message...
...
. . .
...just maybe...a positron is an area of space that
is lacking an electron. I think that Richard Feymann was thinking along
similar lines with his concept of virtual particles. Stephen Hawking
suggested that, near a black hole event horizon, anti-particles would be
generated from nothingness when their quantum entangled virtual twins
disappear into the singularity. Hence black holes will radiate Hawking
radiation. . . .

Sally

'Lo Sally --

I've been studying this and would like to hear more about it...

I'm familiar with the electron/hole theory in electronics as it
applies to P and N semiconductor materials used in diodes
and transistors...

primary current carriers in N-type materials are electrons,
primary current carriers in P-type materials are holes.

... but i can't quite marry your above statement about positrons
being areas of space (holes) that are lacking electrons with
the first discovery of the antielectron or positron in the cloud
chamber. That was actually a *particle* that had the exact
same mass as an electron, but moved in a curve that was just
the *opposite* direction that an electron would have moved in
the chamber's magnetic field.

So the question arises, how would an electron-less area of
space be able to leave the bubble track that is left by a positron
when it is created in a cloud chamber?

I think Sally is describing Dirac's original theory about anti-matter. I
don't have a good reference to hand (searching for "Dirac" and
"positron" will probably tell you a lot more) but AIUI a positron is a
"hole" in a sea of particles with negative energy.

--
"Forty millions of miles it was from us, more than forty millions of miles of
void"
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In message
, Painius
writes
"Sally" wrote in message...
...
. . .
...just maybe...a positron is an area of space that
is lacking an electron. I think that Richard Feymann was thinking along
similar lines with his concept of virtual particles. Stephen Hawking
suggested that, near a black hole event horizon, anti-particles would be
generated from nothingness when their quantum entangled virtual twins
disappear into the singularity. Hence black holes will radiate Hawking
radiation. . . .

Sally

'Lo Sally --

I've been studying this and would like to hear more about it...

I'm familiar with the electron/hole theory in electronics as it
applies to P and N semiconductor materials used in diodes
and transistors...

primary current carriers in N-type materials are electrons,
primary current carriers in P-type materials are holes.

... but i can't quite marry your above statement about positrons
being areas of space (holes) that are lacking electrons with
the first discovery of the antielectron or positron in the cloud
chamber. That was actually a *particle* that had the exact
same mass as an electron, but moved in a curve that was just
the *opposite* direction that an electron would have moved in
the chamber's magnetic field.

So the question arises, how would an electron-less area of
space be able to leave the bubble track that is left by a positron
when it is created in a cloud chamber?

I think Sally is describing Dirac's original theory about anti-matter. I
don't have a good reference to hand (searching for "Dirac" and
"positron" will probably tell you a lot more) but AIUI a positron is a
"hole" in a sea of particles with negative energy.

--
"Forty millions of miles it was from us, more than forty millions of miles of
void"
Remove spam and invalid from address to reply.

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"Sally" wrote in message...
...
. . .
...just maybe...a positron is an area of space that
is lacking an electron. I think that Richard Feymann was thinking along
similar lines with his concept of virtual particles. Stephen Hawking
suggested that, near a black hole event horizon, anti-particles would be
generated from nothingness when their quantum entangled virtual twins
disappear into the singularity. Hence black holes will radiate Hawking
radiation. . . .

Sally

'Lo Sally --

I've been studying this and would like to hear more about it . . .

. . . So the question arises, how would an electron-less area of
space be able to leave the bubble track that is left by a positron
when it is created in a cloud chamber?

I think Sally is describing Dirac's original theory about anti-matter. I
don't have a good reference to hand (searching for "Dirac" and
"positron" will probably tell you a lot more) but AIUI a positron is a
"hole" in a sea of particles with negative energy.

--
"Forty millions of miles it was from us, more than forty millions of miles of
void"
Remove spam and invalid from address to reply.

That might explain it. Her ref. was to Feynman and virtual
particles, but i found nothing about it there.

I was also unaware that Dirac's prediction was about holes
rather than negatively charged particles. Something they
leave out these days?

As for Hawking radiation, it's my understanding that Stephen
was using the vacuum fluctuations of SED to imply that both
particles come into being, one gets sucked into the BH, and
the other is given off as Hawking radiation. There is nothing
special about the event horizon in creating matter and anti-
matter particles... the SED vacuum fluctuations theoretically
take place in *every* cc of space...

....to include the cc right under our noses. g

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

--
Gaia shadow come November,
Does this bode well for December?
Moon aglow as I remember,
Tremble, tremble glowing ember,
Seems my life's a severed member.

Paine Ellsworth

"Jonathan Silverlight" wrote...
in message ...

Painius writes...
in message ,

"Sally" wrote in message...
...
. . .
...just maybe...a positron is an area of space that
is lacking an electron. I think that Richard Feymann was thinking along
similar lines with his concept of virtual particles. Stephen Hawking
suggested that, near a black hole event horizon, anti-particles would be
generated from nothingness when their quantum entangled virtual twins
disappear into the singularity. Hence black holes will radiate Hawking
radiation. . . .

Sally

'Lo Sally --

I've been studying this and would like to hear more about it . . .

. . . So the question arises, how would an electron-less area of
space be able to leave the bubble track that is left by a positron
when it is created in a cloud chamber?

I think Sally is describing Dirac's original theory about anti-matter. I
don't have a good reference to hand (searching for "Dirac" and
"positron" will probably tell you a lot more) but AIUI a positron is a
"hole" in a sea of particles with negative energy.

--
"Forty millions of miles it was from us, more than forty millions of miles of
void"
Remove spam and invalid from address to reply.

That might explain it. Her ref. was to Feynman and virtual
particles, but i found nothing about it there.

I was also unaware that Dirac's prediction was about holes
rather than negatively charged particles. Something they
leave out these days?

As for Hawking radiation, it's my understanding that Stephen
was using the vacuum fluctuations of SED to imply that both
particles come into being, one gets sucked into the BH, and
the other is given off as Hawking radiation. There is nothing
special about the event horizon in creating matter and anti-
matter particles... the SED vacuum fluctuations theoretically
take place in *every* cc of space...

....to include the cc right under our noses. g

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

--
Gaia shadow come November,
Does this bode well for December?
Moon aglow as I remember,
Tremble, tremble glowing ember,
Seems my life's a severed member.

Paine Ellsworth

"Jonathan Silverlight" wrote...
in message ...

Painius writes...
in message ,

"Sally" wrote in message...
...
. . .
...just maybe...a positron is an area of space that
is lacking an electron. I think that Richard Feymann was thinking along
similar lines with his concept of virtual particles. Stephen Hawking
suggested that, near a black hole event horizon, anti-particles would be
generated from nothingness when their quantum entangled virtual twins
disappear into the singularity. Hence black holes will radiate Hawking
radiation. . . .

Sally

'Lo Sally --

I've been studying this and would like to hear more about it . . .

. . . So the question arises, how would an electron-less area of
space be able to leave the bubble track that is left by a positron
when it is created in a cloud chamber?

I think Sally is describing Dirac's original theory about anti-matter. I
don't have a good reference to hand (searching for "Dirac" and
"positron" will probably tell you a lot more) but AIUI a positron is a
"hole" in a sea of particles with negative energy.

--
"Forty millions of miles it was from us, more than forty millions of miles of
void"
Remove spam and invalid from address to reply.

That might explain it. Her ref. was to Feynman and virtual
particles, but i found nothing about it there.

I was also unaware that Dirac's prediction was about holes
rather than positively charged antiparticles. Something they
leave out these days?

As for Hawking radiation, it's my understanding that Stephen
was using the vacuum fluctuations of SED to imply that both
particles come into being, one gets sucked into the BH, and
the other is given off as Hawking radiation. There is nothing
special about the event horizon in creating matter and anti-
matter particles... the SED vacuum fluctuations theoretically
take place in *every* cc of space...

....to include the cc right under our noses. g

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

--
Gaia shadow come November,
Does this bode well for December?
Moon aglow as I remember,
Tremble, tremble glowing ember,
Seems my life's a severed member.

Paine Ellsworth

"Jonathan Silverlight" wrote...
in message ...

Painius writes...
in message ,

"Sally" wrote in message...
...
. . .
...just maybe...a positron is an area of space that
is lacking an electron. I think that Richard Feymann was thinking along
similar lines with his concept of virtual particles. Stephen Hawking
suggested that, near a black hole event horizon, anti-particles would be
generated from nothingness when their quantum entangled virtual twins
disappear into the singularity. Hence black holes will radiate Hawking
radiation. . . .

Sally

'Lo Sally --

I've been studying this and would like to hear more about it . . .

. . . So the question arises, how would an electron-less area of
space be able to leave the bubble track that is left by a positron
when it is created in a cloud chamber?

I think Sally is describing Dirac's original theory about anti-matter. I
don't have a good reference to hand (searching for "Dirac" and
"positron" will probably tell you a lot more) but AIUI a positron is a
"hole" in a sea of particles with negative energy.

--
"Forty millions of miles it was from us, more than forty millions of miles of
void"
Remove spam and invalid from address to reply.

That might explain it. Her ref. was to Feynman and virtual
particles, but i found nothing about it there.

I was also unaware that Dirac's prediction was about holes
rather than positively charged antiparticles. Something they
leave out these days?

As for Hawking radiation, it's my understanding that Stephen
was using the vacuum fluctuations of SED to imply that both
particles come into being, one gets sucked into the BH, and
the other is given off as Hawking radiation. There is nothing
special about the event horizon in creating matter and anti-
matter particles... the SED vacuum fluctuations theoretically
take place in *every* cc of space...

....to include the cc right under our noses. g

happy days and...
starry starry nights!

--
Gaia shadow come November,
Does this bode well for December?
Moon aglow as I remember,
Tremble, tremble glowing ember,
Seems my life's a severed member.

Paine Ellsworth

Hi Panius and Sally Since the Casmir plates show space in not a
void,than how can we use the term out of "nothing" The space song
should be "I've got plenty of nothing and nothing is plenty for me"
Sounds like a Gershwin song to me. Bert

Hi Panius and Sally Since the Casmir plates show space in not a
void,than how can we use the term out of "nothing" The space song
should be "I've got plenty of nothing and nothing is plenty for me"
Sounds like a Gershwin song to me. Bert