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Old February 2nd 08, 02:33 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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1.
Once upon a time, 20 billions of years ago, all matter
(all elementary particles and all quarks and
their girlfriends- antiparticles and antiquarks,
all kinds of waves: electromagnetic, gravitational,
muons... gluons field ..... etc.) - was assembled in a "single point".
It is interesting to think about what had surrounded the "single
point".
The answer is :
EMPTINESS- NOTHING....!!!
Ok!
But why does everyone speak about EMPTINESS- NOTHING in
common phrases rather than in specific, concrete terms?
I wonder why nobody has written down this EMPTINESS- NOTHING in
the form of a physical formula ? You see, every schoolboy knows that
is possible to express the EMPTINESS- NOTHING condition
by the formula T=0K.
* * *
Once there was a "Big Bang".
But in what space had the Big Bang taken place
and in what space was the matter of the Big Bang distributed?
Not in T=0K?
It is clear, that there is only EMPTINESS, NOTHING, in T=0K.
Now consider that the Universe, as an absolute frame of reference is
in a condition of T = 2,7K (rests relic radiation of the Big Bang ).
But, the relic radiation is extended and in the future will change
and its temperature will decrease.
What temperature can this radiation reach?
Not T=0K?
Hence, if we go into the past or into the present or into the
future,
we can not escape from EMPTINESS- NOTHING T=0K.
2.
Detected material mass of the matter in the Universe is so small
(the average density of all substance in the Universe is
approximately p=10^-30 g/sm3) that the gravitation law
doesn't work. Therefore was invented " dark matter" and
another abstract objects.
The cosmological constant in Universe is zero.
The Universe / Vacuum is endless.
Our tiny minds cannot get a handle on its size,
so we try to give it shapes and boundaries, all of which is folly.
But to our happiness the temperature of Vacuum is concrete.
Therefore it is necessary to begin to think from T=0K.
3.
About the theory of the "Big Bang" is written the thick (very thick)
books.
But anywhere do not write about the reason of the "Big Bang".
Anybody does not know it.
I know.
The action, when the God compresses all Universe
into his palm, we have named " a singular point".
And action, when the God opens his palm,
we have named the "Big Bang".
============ ============ ==.
So,
"Bang or no bang"
" To be or not to be? "
that is the question.
/ From Shakespeare with Love./

One comment.
========..
Hello All
Israel maybe right.
History repeats time and time again.
The First Crisis in Cosmology Conference
Mon¬×c˜ao, Portugal, June 23-25 2005
http://www.american antigravity. com/documents/ Crisis-in- Cosmology-
2005-Ratcliffe. pdf
In May 2004, a group of about 30 concerned scientists
published an open letter to the global scientific community
in New Scientist in which they protested the stranglehold of
Big Bang theory on cosmological research and funding. The
letter was placed on the Internet and rapidly attracted wide
attention. It currently has about 300 signatories representing
scientists and researchers of disparate backgrounds, and has
led to a loose association now known as the Alternative
Cosmology Group.
===============....
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Old February 3rd 08, 03:32 AM posted to alt.astronomy
Anthony Buckland[_2_]
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"socratus" wrote in message
...
1.
Once upon a time, 20 billions of years ago, all matter
(all elementary particles and all quarks and
their girlfriends- antiparticles and antiquarks,

-------13.7 billion years, but let's not quibble -------

all kinds of waves: electromagnetic, gravitational,
muons... gluons field ..... etc.) - was assembled in a "single point".
It is interesting to think about what had surrounded the "single
point". ...

-------There were no surroundings. The single point
constituted the entire universe. All of it. Nothing
around it. Study some cosmology, there are
plenty of minimally technical books available. -------


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Old February 3rd 08, 04:58 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Feb 2, 5:33 am, socratus wrote:
1.
Once upon a time, 20 billions of years ago, all matter
(all elementary particles and all quarks and
their girlfriends- antiparticles and antiquarks,
all kinds of waves: electromagnetic, gravitational,
muons... gluons field ..... etc.) - was assembled in a "single point".
It is interesting to think about what had surrounded the "single
point".
The answer is :
EMPTINESS- NOTHING....!!!
Ok!


No, it's not OK. Why not a great many resting photons, as surrounding
any number of anti-matter black holes?

Why not event horizons of "-c" (-300,000 km/s)?
.. - Brad Guth

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Old February 3rd 08, 05:00 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Feb 2, 6:32 pm, "Anthony Buckland"
wrote:
"socratus" wrote in message

...
1.
Once upon a time, 20 billions of years ago, all matter
(all elementary particles and all quarks and
their girlfriends- antiparticles and antiquarks,

-------13.7 billion years, but let's not quibble -------

all kinds of waves: electromagnetic, gravitational,
muons... gluons field ..... etc.) - was assembled in a "single point".
It is interesting to think about what had surrounded the "single
point". ...

-------There were no surroundings. The single point
constituted the entire universe. All of it. Nothing
around it. Study some cosmology, there are
plenty of minimally technical books available. -------



Right, as in one mother black hole per universe.
.. - Brad Guth
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Old February 3rd 08, 07:37 AM posted to alt.astronomy
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On Feb 3, 6:00 am, BradGuth wrote:
On Feb 2, 6:32 pm, "Anthony Buckland"





wrote:
"socratus" wrote in message


...
1.
Once upon a time, 20 billions of years ago, all matter
(all elementary particles and all quarks and
their girlfriends- antiparticles and antiquarks,


-------13.7 billion years, but let's not quibble -------


all kinds of waves: electromagnetic, gravitational,
muons... gluons field ..... etc.) - was assembled in a "single point".
It is interesting to think about what had surrounded the "single
point". ...


-------There were no surroundings. The single point
constituted the entire universe. All of it. Nothing
around it. Study some cosmology, there are
plenty of minimally technical books available. -------


Right, as in one mother black hole per universe.
. - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


=============================
1.
A black hole / Hawking's / has a temperature within a few
millionths of a degree above absolute zero: T=0K.
/ Oxford. Dictionary./
2.
There are many-many ..." mini... black holes".......( !!! ??? )
3.
I have following questions.
Which particles give shape to a " mini black hole"
in a temperature within a few millionths
of a degree above absolute zero: T=0K.?
How from one..." mini black hole" , from local microgravity,
the macro gravity , the star formation going ?
What is about: " Hypoteses non fingo." ?
========== . ===============
Best wishes.
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Old February 3rd 08, 04:26 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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Default Bang or no bang.

Think of BHs as having a core of antimatter that's surrounded by
resting photons. Doesn't that work?

Also, think of -c (-300,000 km/s), as representing the BH photon
recession velocity once past the point of no return (aka event
horizon).

- Brad Guth



On Feb 2, 10:37 pm, socratus wrote:
On Feb 3, 6:00 am, BradGuth wrote:



On Feb 2, 6:32 pm, "Anthony Buckland"


wrote:
"socratus" wrote in message


...
1.
Once upon a time, 20 billions of years ago, all matter
(all elementary particles and all quarks and
their girlfriends- antiparticles and antiquarks,


-------13.7 billion years, but let's not quibble -------


all kinds of waves: electromagnetic, gravitational,
muons... gluons field ..... etc.) - was assembled in a "single point".
It is interesting to think about what had surrounded the "single
point". ...


-------There were no surroundings. The single point
constituted the entire universe. All of it. Nothing
around it. Study some cosmology, there are
plenty of minimally technical books available. -------


Right, as in one mother black hole per universe.
. - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


=============================
1.
A black hole / Hawking's / has a temperature within a few
millionths of a degree above absolute zero: T=0K.
/ Oxford. Dictionary./
2.
There are many-many ..." mini... black holes".......( !!! ??? )
3.
I have following questions.
Which particles give shape to a " mini black hole"
in a temperature within a few millionths
of a degree above absolute zero: T=0K.?
How from one..." mini black hole" , from local microgravity,
the macro gravity , the star formation going ?
What is about: " Hypoteses non fingo." ?
========== . ===============
Best wishes.


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Old February 4th 08, 07:09 AM posted to alt.astronomy
socratus
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Default Bang or no bang.

On Feb 3, 5:26 pm, BradGuth wrote:
Think of BHs as having a core of antimatter that's surrounded by
resting photons. Doesn't that work?

Also, think of -c (-300,000 km/s), as representing the BH photon
recession velocity once past the point of no return (aka event
horizon).

- Brad Guth

On Feb 2, 10:37 pm, socratus wrote:



On Feb 3, 6:00 am, BradGuth wrote:


On Feb 2, 6:32 pm, "Anthony Buckland"


wrote:
"socratus" wrote in message


...
1.
Once upon a time, 20 billions of years ago, all matter
(all elementary particles and all quarks and
their girlfriends- antiparticles and antiquarks,


-------13.7 billion years, but let's not quibble -------


all kinds of waves: electromagnetic, gravitational,
muons... gluons field ..... etc.) - was assembled in a "single point".
It is interesting to think about what had surrounded the "single
point". ...


-------There were no surroundings. The single point
constituted the entire universe. All of it. Nothing
around it. Study some cosmology, there are
plenty of minimally technical books available. -------


Right, as in one mother black hole per universe.
. - Brad Guth- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


=============================
1.
A black hole / Hawking's / has a temperature within a few
millionths of a degree above absolute zero: T=0K.
/ Oxford. Dictionary./
2.
There are many-many ..." mini... black holes".......( !!! ??? )
3.
I have following questions.
Which particles give shape to a " mini black hole"
in a temperature within a few millionths
of a degree above absolute zero: T=0K.?
How from one..." mini black hole" , from local microgravity,
the macro gravity , the star formation going ?
What is about: " Hypoteses non fingo." ?
========== . ===============
Best wishes.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -

=================================.
Think of BHs as having a core of antimatter that's surrounded by
resting photons. Doesn't that work?
=================.
Resting photon ( !!!???)
What is formula of it?
==========..
Can Light quata to stop its moving?
======== ...==========
Quantum Theory says mass increases with speed increase
and becomes infinite when a mass reaches speed of light: c=1.
Which is against the
"Law of conservation and transformation energy/mass".
But we know the quantum of light is real particle and
its mass is particular and not infinite.
How to understand this contradiction?
And the scientists invented an artful way: the quantum
does not possess the mass of rest and it is always in motion.
======= ..=======
The quantum of light has not mass of rest equal to zero.
But.......
=============
The Soviet/Russian academic S. Vavilov suggested an
interesting idea. In his book ' Isaac Newton' he wrote.
The force, according to the Newton's Second Law,
is equal to : F= ma.
This force is possible to consider as absolute independent
quantity - impulse. When in case with light quanta
the impulse is equal to: mc.
He continued.
Let us now imagine that light quanta falls on a black body,
and it absolutely absorbs this light quanta
( it means light quanta stops).
Then, according to the Lebedev,s law, light quanta
renders pressure on the black body: E/c.
Therefore it is possible to write: mc=E/c.
It means that light quanta has not mass of rest equal to zero,
but it has potential energy/mass: M=E/c^2. (E=Mc^2).
========== ..===============
Of course the potential energy/mass of light quanta
can transform in its kinetic energy.
===== ...========
Also, think of -c (-300,000 km/s), as representing the BH photon
recession velocity once past the point of no return (aka event
horizon).
Brad Guth .
=====================..
Think of c=1. ( !!!)
===== ..
The secret of words 'God', 'soul ', 'religion', ' Existence',
'dualism of consciousness', 'human being' hide
in the "Theory of Light quanta".
==============..

Best wishes.
http://www.socratus.com
http://www.wbabin.net/




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Old February 5th 08, 02:58 PM posted to alt.astronomy
G=EMC^2 Glazier[_1_]
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To Ya All (Florida talk) Lots of evidence that every galaxy has a black
hole. They become more realistic every year. Bert

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Old February 17th 08, 07:18 PM posted to alt.astronomy
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Big bang or just a whimper,for it makes no difference. Humankind was not
there to witness it. (forest tree falling) Bert

 




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