Russia, China considering joint Moon and Mars mission

http://www.spacedaily.com/news/spacetravel-05zzzz.html

Hi Ray China with a space program with 250,000 people has to make its
move. They have learned all the mistakes made by NASA shuttle program.
Now that China is manufacturing most of the products of the would,and
especially now cars they have to show the world how technology advanced
they are. We lost out because we let NASA go round and round for
almost 40 years. Bert

G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
Hi Ray China with a space program with 250,000 people has to make its
move. They have learned all the mistakes made by NASA shuttle program.
Now that China is manufacturing most of the products of the would,and
especially now cars they have to show the world how technology advanced
they are. We lost out because we let NASA go round and round for
almost 40 years. Bert


Funny how things work out, Bert. I heard tonight that the Russians
beat us into space because they couldn't figure out how to miniaturize
nuclear warheads. We figured that out so we didn't have to build such
large rockets. But the Russians, being forced to build larger rockets
for their bulkier bombs, ended up with just the hardware needed for
space launches.

Double-A

On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 06:36:16 -0500
(G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:

Hi Ray China with a space program with 250,000 people has to make
its
move. They have learned all the mistakes made by NASA shuttle program.
Now that China is manufacturing most of the products of the would,and
especially now cars they have to show the world how technology
advanced
they are. We lost out because we let NASA go round and round
for
almost 40 years. Bert


Hi Bert, I was surprised by that article because I also read that the
Russians had caught one of it's people secretly giving China space
related information which was supposed to be secret I guess, ha, ha..

Sagan's space program was also a 'joint' venture. :-)

oc

Hi Ray Russia and China through out history were never the best of
friends. I'm sure Russia wants to be paid for any thing it does.(why
not) Like Double-A posted Russia built powerful big rockets. Russia
likes to build heavy big stuff. Getting to the moon is not as hard as
landing men on its surface,and bringing them home. Be nice if we could
land the ISS on the moon. Bert

On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 10:21:17 -0500
(G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:

Hi Ray Russia and China through out history were never the best of
friends. I'm sure Russia wants to be paid for any thing it does.(why
not) Like Double-A posted Russia built powerful big rockets.
Russia
likes to build heavy big stuff. Getting to the moon is not as hard
as
landing men on its surface,and bringing them home. Be nice if we could
land the ISS on the moon. Bert


Hi Bert.

It would be nice to just forget the ISS and all the money and wasted
time.

It will be interesting to see where all this goes cos with the Europeans
joining in on the Russian clipper craft, and now I understand the
Japanese want in on the action too with the Russians and the Europeans
, and now with Russian and China considering joint programs all it needs
is every one to join up. With that kind of setup what a rival that would
be for NASA.

G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:
Hi Ray Russia and China through out history were never the best of
friends. I'm sure Russia wants to be paid for any thing it does.(why
not) Like Double-A posted Russia built powerful big rockets. Russia
likes to build heavy big stuff. Getting to the moon is not as hard as
landing men on its surface,and bringing them home. Be nice if we could
land the ISS on the moon. Bert

How about relocating the ISS to a lunar orbit?

Would the accelerations be too great?


Could it be feasible?

RL

Ray Vingnutte wrote:
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 06:36:16 -0500
(G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:

Hi Ray China with a space program with 250,000 people has to make
its
move. They have learned all the mistakes made by NASA shuttle program.
Now that China is manufacturing most of the products of the would,and
especially now cars they have to show the world how technology
advanced
they are. We lost out because we let NASA go round and round
for
almost 40 years. Bert


Hi Bert, I was surprised by that article because I also read that the
Russians had caught one of it's people secretly giving China space
related information which was supposed to be secret I guess, ha, ha..

Bingo, Ray.

Free enterprise, Market research, Homegrown talent, Grand old
Tradition, Moxie to survive ...

It's a natural.

RL

On Tue, 1 Nov 2005 10:21:17 -0500
(G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:

Hi Ray Russia and China through out history were never the best of
friends. I'm sure Russia wants to be paid for any thing it does.(why
not) Like Double-A posted Russia built powerful big rockets.
Russia
likes to build heavy big stuff. Getting to the moon is not as hard
as
landing men on its surface,and bringing them home. Be nice if we could
land the ISS on the moon. Bert


Now seven Asia pacific countries teaming up with the Chinese.

http://www.space-travel.com/news/chi...zzzzzzzzn.html