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Old February 1st 05, 06:49 PM
Iain Young
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Default United Technologies to Buy Rocketdyne from Boeing ?

According to a headline on www.spacetoday.net, the WSJ has an
article suggesting that United Technologies may buy Rocketdyne
from Boeing.

Don't know what the article actually says, as WSJ want you to
register, and Im not registered with them. Anyone seen any reports
anywhere else yet ?


Iain
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Old February 1st 05, 09:50 PM
Rand Simberg
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On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:49:14 +0000, in a place far, far away, Iain
Young made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a
way as to indicate that:

According to a headline on www.spacetoday.net, the WSJ has an
article suggesting that United Technologies may buy Rocketdyne
from Boeing.

Don't know what the article actually says, as WSJ want you to
register, and Im not registered with them. Anyone seen any reports
anywhere else yet ?


No, but it's been for sale since last summer. I wonder if the FTC
would allow the sale, since it might concentrate too much of the
nation's propulsion capability in a single company (they'd have no
competition except possibly Aerojet).
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Old February 1st 05, 10:09 PM
Ed Kyle
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Iain Young wrote:
According to a headline on www.spacetoday.net, the WSJ has an
article suggesting that United Technologies may buy Rocketdyne
from Boeing.

Don't know what the article actually says, as WSJ want you to
register, and Im not registered with them. Anyone seen any reports
anywhere else yet ?
Iain


Here's a link to a story on this.

"http://www.dailynews.com/Stories/0,1413,200~20954~2680457,00.html"

This could be good for Rocketdyne in a sense.
Right now, Rocketdyne is pretty much captive
to Boeing. And Boeing ain't doing so well.
A Rocketdyne free of Boeing could, in principal,
sell better to other rocket manufacturers in the
future. But United Technologies would almost
certainly consolidate Rocketdyne and Pratt &
Whitney, so one might cease to exist on paper.
OTOH, Rocketdyne's facilities could probably
support U.S. production of the RD-180 with
greater ease than Pratt & Whitney could.

- Ed Kyle

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Old February 2nd 05, 01:36 AM
Scott Lowther
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Rand Simberg wrote:

On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:49:14 +0000, in a place far, far away, Iain
Young made the phosphor on my monitor glow in such a
way as to indicate that:



According to a headline on www.spacetoday.net, the WSJ has an
article suggesting that United Technologies may buy Rocketdyne


from Boeing.



Don't know what the article actually says, as WSJ want you to
register, and Im not registered with them. Anyone seen any reports
anywhere else yet ?



No, but it's been for sale since last summer. I wonder if the FTC
would allow the sale, since it might concentrate too much of the
nation's propulsion capability in a single company (they'd have no
competition except possibly Aerojet).


Keep in mind that UTC just got *out* of the solid rocket biz. The San
Jose facility had it's last day on December 17.

In any event, the answer to "not enough companies" is... Space-X and X-Cor.
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Old February 2nd 05, 05:10 PM
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"Rand Simberg"
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No, but it's been for sale since last summer. I wonder if the FTC
would allow the sale, since it might concentrate too much of the
nation's propulsion capability in a single company (they'd have no
competition except possibly Aerojet).


I think that Aerojet is mainly in the solid fuel rocket propulsion.

Are not Lockheed-Martin and United Technology the main US competitors in
large liquid fuel rocket engines?

I wonder if the FTC would consider foreign competitors as part of their
equation in determining valid competitors?


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Old February 2nd 05, 08:30 PM
Rand Simberg
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On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 17:10:03 GMT, in a place far, far away, "steve
podleski" made the phosphor on my
monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that:

No, but it's been for sale since last summer. I wonder if the FTC
would allow the sale, since it might concentrate too much of the
nation's propulsion capability in a single company (they'd have no
competition except possibly Aerojet).


I think that Aerojet is mainly in the solid fuel rocket propulsion.

Are not Lockheed-Martin and United Technology the main US competitors in
large liquid fuel rocket engines?


Yes.

I wonder if the FTC would consider foreign competitors as part of their
equation in determining valid competitors?


They don't generally (though they let Boeing buy McDonnell Douglas).
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Old February 4th 05, 04:33 AM
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steve podleski wrote:

Are not Lockheed-Martin and United Technology the main US competitors in
large liquid fuel rocket engines?


No. Boeing is the other, not Lockheed Martin.

Mike

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Old February 4th 05, 04:34 AM
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Rand Simberg simberg.interglobal wrote:

They don't generally (though they let Boeing buy McDonnell Douglas).


Merge with.

Mike

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Old February 4th 05, 04:52 AM
steve podleski
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"Michael Kent" wrote in message
...
steve podleski wrote:

Are not Lockheed-Martin and United Technology the main US competitors in
large liquid fuel rocket engines?


No. Boeing is the other, not Lockheed Martin.


So, if United Technology buys Rocketdyne, there will be no domestic
competitors in liquid fuel rocket engines?


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Old February 4th 05, 01:12 PM
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steve podleski wrote:
"Michael Kent" wrote in message
...
steve podleski wrote:

Are not Lockheed-Martin and United Technology the main US

competitors in
large liquid fuel rocket engines?


No. Boeing is the other, not Lockheed Martin.


So, if United Technology buys Rocketdyne, there will be no domestic
competitors in liquid fuel rocket engines?


XCOR Aerospace, for one.

-kert

 




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