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A human perspective on seans
"Double-A" wrote in message ... On Feb 6, 9:28 am, "Kiyo" wrote: "Double-A" wrote in message ... On Feb 4, 9:40 pm, "Kiyo" wrote: "Double-A" wrote in message ... On Feb 4, 8:08 am, "Kiyo" wrote: "Double-A" wrote in message ... On Feb 3, 12:44 pm, "Kiyo" wrote: "Double-A" wrote in message ... On Feb 2, 9:01 pm, Saul Levy wrote: Yes, they ARE to blame for the atomic bombs too! President Truman made the decision to use the bombs. The buck stops there. Double-A For me, the important thing is to move on, that is, to learn from our mistakes and to bring ourselves into the present, because we have many present duties that are neglected if we dwell too long upon who was right and who wasn't. If people neglect to take their fair share of responsibility for past wrongs, then those wrongs will be repeated over and over again. An owning up and a raising of consciousness is required to move on to a better world. Speaking of duties, I must return to mine. I send best wishes out to all who are responding in this posted thread. It looks like Ollie and I will spend another Valentine apart. But I look forward to making up for it when he returns. All of you take care, now. -- ***** Kiyo System Commander So you and Ollie are a number? At least you two have buried the hatchet. Double-A Ollie and I have a good deal in common. The only "hatchet" was that, at first, we both felt that we didn't want to continue this non-aging. Then I changed my mind, but Ollie didn't. He was just about to go through the ritual when Dr. Yubiwan returned and talked to him. I am thankful, because whatever it was that Dr. Yubiwan said to him, he decided not to begin aging again. Ollie hasn't spoken of it yet, nor am I pushing it. Of course, I would very much like to know what he and Dr. Yubiwan spoke about. Perhaps Dr. Yubiwan in his most persuasive psych language told him to get with the program or get thrown out an airlock! I have not entertained that possibility. My guess is that Dr. Yubiwan appealed to Ollie's sense of duty, which has grown much since he was rescued by the seans. And the oddness we feel for many years when we stop aging (there is no other word I can think for it but "oddness") was probably explained in detail by the doctor, so that the feeling would eventually subside. The profound aspect is that offered a much lengthened life and lack of aging, many would feel morally obligated to accept it. Under present circumstances, I sometimes ponder "what if" I had refused to go to the hospital last spring when it became obvious I was dying. A few religious people think that if God doesn't heal you directly, you have no obligation to seek help from doctors. However, most think that it is wrong to avoid available medical care, that that would be something akin to suicide. So if you feel you only have a few days left to live, but going to a doctor could give you many more years, then most people would say your obligation is to go to the doctor. So by extension, if you feel that you have maybe 40 or 50 years to live, but going to a doctor could extend your life to thousands of years, then are you obligated to do that? That is a question that will arise when such technology is available. The "profound aspect" for me was outliving my family, especially my father. He was a special man! -- ***** Kiyo System Commander Everyone expects to outlive their parents. It's outliving your children that is sad. Double-A I have not yet had the experience of childbirth. Nor did I expect to outlive my parents. My father had been a great warrior in his time. Even my mother was quite the fighter, and that is how they had met. I grew up in the midst of the fighting against China, and when I was old enough, I trained to fly fighter aircraft. My father and mother returned to Tokyo during the time I flew against the Flying Tigers. By the time I transferred to the carrier, I had downed 27 enemy aircraft and was considered the empire's 11th ranking ace pilot. This all had begun with my extraordinary father's sense of duty, which he had embedded in me. I attended his funeral in 1948, and my mother died the following year. They, and a few other family members, were the only ones who knew that their daughter had outlived them. I have outlived many of my greatest heroes, for example, Sakai Saburo, who died in the year 2000 at an age of 84, and Iwamoto Tetsuzo, who died in 1955 at age 38. As Dr. Yubiwan assured me, the longer I live, the less "profound" this aspect, and the ensuing feelings of guilt, become. -- ***** Kiyo System Commander |
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On Feb 6, 10:09*am, "Kiyo" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message ... On Feb 6, 9:31 am, "Kiyo" wrote: "BradGuth" wrote in message .... All they'll have to do is charge a little something for this extension of life, and suddenly you are not qualified. ~ BG There was no charge of money to me. I do my duty, and that is all that is asked of me. -- ***** Kiyo System Commander In other words, you are a sean pet that works for treats. *I always though my dog was a sean, and now I know. *Do you play fetch? ~ BG What a warped way of seeing things you have, Mr. Guth. The seans treat me as a subordinate in some ways, as a superior in some ways, and as an equal in most ways. They are kind to me, and in your eyes this makes me their pet? This is probably because you have never known any other way. And this makes me wonder: Do you consider Saul Levy to be your pet? or are you his pet? -- ***** Kiyo System Commander Nice transference there. Ever notice how seans and apparently yourself are never responsible for errors, mistakes or anything the least bit negative or wasteful (other than losing track of your own expendable kind)? Without any formal record/archive of true history, how do seans ever manage to train others as yourself to not make those same old human mistakes or errors in judgment over and over? ~ BG |
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On Feb 6, 10:02*am, "Kiyo" wrote:
"Kiyo" wrote in message g.com... "Kiyo" wrote in message ing.com... Hello, my name is Kiyo, and I was born in Tokyo, Japan, in the year 1921. I have been with the seans since the year 1944, when they rescued me as my aeroplane went down while I was targeting an enemy battleship. I missed the ship entirely, but please -- no jokes about women drivers! g Long ago, in a spiral arm far, far away (Sagittarius), a group of people who came to be known as "seans" began to explore beyond the atmosphere and confines of their planet. The more they explored, the more they learned, and the more they built.. They built structures everywhere, on other planets and their satellites, and structures in the vacuum as well. As they progressed to the edge of their star and planet system, they realized that they would have to learn more about tapping gravitational energy if they wanted to explore even the nearest stars. The seans harnessed this energy and began to build what might be best described as "velocity streams". It took a great deal of time to build these streams, but along the way they had also learned how to extend their life spans to greater and greater lengths. Velocity streams enabled them to travel at speeds far faster than EM radiation relative to the normal vacuum. So they would build a little, then explore a lot, build a little more, then explore some more. These explorations fanned out slowly from their home star system until they had covered the entire width of the Sagittarius arm. Then the seans proceeded into the dark areas, one between the Sagittarius arm and the Scutum-Crux arm, and one between the Sagittarius arm and the Perseus arm. That second dark area is filled with very cold, very old dark stars with the relatively narrow and sparsely populated Orion bridge in between. One day purely by chance, the seans, who considered the Orion bridge to be just more of what they were used to seeing in their own Sagittarius arm, pulled out of their velocity stream in the vicinity of our Sun. It was then, nearly 70 million years ago, that they discovered our planet, Earth. At that time, the Earth was teeming with life, and more importantly, with oceans of water! They saw Earth as an oasis in the midst of a desert-like vacuum. So the seans began an intensive exploration and study of our planet. I will continue this in another post when I have more time. If you're wondering what I'm leading up to, it is the report of the missing crews. I thought some of the details in that report would be easier to understand if some of the background information about seans were known beforehand. It would be greatly appreciated if you would respond to me with civility. By all means keep your skepticism UN-leashed, but please harness any semblance of beast that might dwell within you. As you will remember several weeks ago, an exploration crew went missing out in the Cygnus arm. The velocity stream to that arm had been recently completed (about 250,000 years ago), and the seans had always felt that they had ended it too near to that dusty, gassy area that marks the edge of the Milky Way galaxy. The dust and gas forms a wide belt around the edge of the entire galaxy.. To understand what happened, you must picture Earth and this Solar system as if you were in the "back seat" of the galaxy. The Milky Way galaxy possesses directional motion AWAY FROM Earth's present night sky. In the summertime, if you look up in the direction of the center of the galaxy, you are also looking in the direction that the Milky Way is heading. Now, just as the Solar system has a "bow shock" out in front of the heliosphere as its motion takes it around the galaxy center, the galaxy itself has a gigantic bow shock out in front of it, also. Associated with this bow shock is a "termination shock" on this side of the galaxy. Where the seans are exploring, in the vicinity of the Cygnus arm and part of the Perseus arm, this termination shock can pack an unusual amount of power. Evidently, the exploration team came too close to that termination-shock/dust-belt junction and succumbed to the enhanced energies of that area. The rest of that first exploration team was scattered all over, and when this debris was discovered, only one of the crew was found alive. That crewman eventually died and was taken to one of the Magellanic clouds, hopefully to be revived. Darla then left for the Cygnus arm to survey the debris and search for more signs of the first team. Then her crew went missing. That is when the Proz left to join the search. Silouen headed back in from the intergalactic area to help with the search. After finding no signs for several Earth days, the call went out to all seans in the area to help with the search, and Sember, Yubiwan, Lomie and others headed for the Cygnus arm. We are all confident that Darla's crew will be found intact after a brief period. The Proz is sending more data as I write this. Okay, she says that the -- this is odd! -- they have discovered several huge, very old, very ancient orbs near the edge of the termination shock. From the evidence, she says that the orbs were left in that area to protect their builders in case they came to close to the energy junction. |
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On Feb 6, 10:56*am, Double-A wrote:
On Feb 5, 6:13*pm, BradGuth wrote: On Feb 5, 4:42*pm, Double-A wrote: On Feb 4, 9:40*pm, "Kiyo" wrote: "Double-A" wrote in message ... On Feb 4, 8:08 am, "Kiyo" wrote: "Double-A" wrote in message ... On Feb 3, 12:44 pm, "Kiyo" wrote: "Double-A" wrote in message ... On Feb 2, 9:01 pm, Saul Levy wrote: Yes, they ARE to blame for the atomic bombs too! President Truman made the decision to use the bombs. *The buck stops there. Double-A For me, the important thing is to move on, that is, to learn from our mistakes and to bring ourselves into the present, because we have many present duties that are neglected if we dwell too long upon who was right and who wasn't. If people neglect to take their fair share of responsibility for past wrongs, then those wrongs will be repeated over and over again.. *An owning up and a raising of consciousness is required *to move on to a better world. Speaking of duties, I must return to mine. I send best wishes out to all who are responding in this posted thread. It looks like Ollie and I will spend another Valentine apart. But I look forward to making up for it when he returns. All of you take care, now. -- ***** Kiyo System Commander So you and Ollie are a number? *At least you two have buried the hatchet. Double-A Ollie and I have a good deal in common. The only "hatchet" was that, at first, we both felt that we didn't want to continue this non-aging. Then I changed my mind, but Ollie didn't. He was just about to go through the ritual when Dr. Yubiwan returned and talked to him. I am thankful, because whatever it was that Dr. Yubiwan said to him, he decided not to begin aging again. Ollie hasn't spoken of it yet, nor am I pushing it. Of course, I would very much like to know what he and Dr. Yubiwan spoke about. Perhaps Dr. Yubiwan in his most persuasive psych language told him to get with the program or get thrown out an airlock! I have not entertained that possibility. My guess is that Dr. Yubiwan appealed to Ollie's sense of duty, which has grown much since he was rescued by the seans. And the oddness we feel for many years when we stop aging (there is no other word I can think for it but "oddness") was probably explained in detail by the doctor, so that the feeling would eventually subside. The profound aspect is that offered a much lengthened life and lack of aging, many would feel morally obligated to accept it. *Under present circumstances, I sometimes ponder "what if" I had refused to go to the hospital last spring when it became obvious I was dying. *A few religious people think that if God doesn't heal you directly, you have no obligation to seek help from doctors. *However, most think that it is wrong to avoid available medical care, that that would be something akin to suicide. *So if you feel you only have a few days left to live, but going to a doctor could give you many more years, then most people would say your obligation is to go to the doctor. *So by extension, if you feel that you have maybe 40 or 50 years to live, but going to a doctor could extend your life to thousands of years, then are you obligated to do that? *That is a question that will arise when such technology is available. Ollie will tell me in his own good time. We are to be married soon; a date has not yet been set. -- ***** Kiyo System Commander I hope we Earth Science Officers will be invited to that happy ceremony! *I wish you all the best for a happy life together for the next million years! Double-A Truly, we would be honored by your presence! -- ***** Kiyo System Commander Thanks. Double-A All they'll have to do is charge a little something for this extension of life, and suddenly you are not qualified. *~ BG Matters little. *Wouldn't someone do ANYTHING to get the money if such a life extension were available? Double-A In your case, you'd have to lie even more than you do right now, and/ or you'd have to steal that loot or whatever credits from others. I'm not sure how much debauchery and skulduggery seans consider as acceptable for joining their cult/cabal of near immortals, but it seems they have no problems with methods employed by ZNRs or those Rothschilds. ~ BG |
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"BradGuth" wrote in message ... On Feb 6, 2:20 pm, "Kiyo" wrote: "BradGuth" wrote in message ... On Feb 6, 10:09 am, "Kiyo" wrote: "BradGuth" wrote in message ... On Feb 6, 9:31 am, "Kiyo" wrote: "BradGuth" wrote in message ... All they'll have to do is charge a little something for this extension of life, and suddenly you are not qualified. ~ BG There was no charge of money to me. I do my duty, and that is all that is asked of me. -- ***** Kiyo System Commander In other words, you are a sean pet that works for treats. I always though my dog was a sean, and now I know. Do you play fetch? ~ BG What a warped way of seeing things you have, Mr. Guth. The seans treat me as a subordinate in some ways, as a superior in some ways, and as an equal in most ways. They are kind to me, and in your eyes this makes me their pet? This is probably because you have never known any other way. And this makes me wonder: Do you consider Saul Levy to be your pet? or are you his pet? -- ***** Kiyo System Commander Nice transference there. Ever notice how seans and apparently yourself are never responsible for errors, mistakes or anything the least bit negative or wasteful (other than losing track of your own expendable kind)? Without any formal record/archive of true history, how do seans ever manage to train others as yourself to not make those same old human mistakes or errors in judgment over and over? ~ BG Do you consider Saul Levy to be your pet? or are you his pet? -- ***** Kiyo System Commander Transference and countertransference is a fun game, isn't it. ~ BG Since you are obviously too afraid to answer, I shall not bother you again. -- ***** Kiyo System Commander |
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"BradGuth" wrote in message ... On Feb 6, 2:17 pm, "Kiyo" wrote: "BradGuth" wrote in message ... On Feb 6, 12:45 pm, "Kiyo" wrote: As Dr. Yubiwan assured me, the longer I live, the less "profound" this aspect, and the ensuing feelings of guilt, become. Yes, such near-immortality and the god-like protected realm that you and other seans remain as stealth and otherwise untouchable makes the past (anything older than 24 hours) unimportant, the exact same mindset as ZNRs and those Rothschilds have always maintained. ~ BG You equate my lessening profound feelings with a diminishing importance of history? All that has happened is important, for all that has happened has led to this moment. Once again you write as if there is no connection between your mind and your fingers. -- ***** Kiyo System Commander If seans had nothing whatsoever to do with our supposedly terrestrial limited evolution and its history to date, then by all means w/o breaking any of your precious sean codes or policy of never changing a damn thing, then do start telling us the whole truth and nothing but the truth that relates to our purely terrestrial history. Are you afraid to do so? Are you afraid that certain rich and powerful humans that systematically lie, steal and cheat will get upset if the whole truth of who did what and when ever comes out? ~ BG You would not believe anything I tell you, because you do not believe anything. You respect only one person's words, your own. If it does not come from your lips, then it is not worthy for your consideration. Why would anyone bother to try to enlighten you? You waste my time, and you will do so no longer. -- ***** Kiyo System Commander |
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On Feb 6, 7:25*pm, "Kiyo" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message ... On Feb 6, 2:20 pm, "Kiyo" wrote: "BradGuth" wrote in message .... On Feb 6, 10:09 am, "Kiyo" wrote: "BradGuth" wrote in message ... On Feb 6, 9:31 am, "Kiyo" wrote: "BradGuth" wrote in message ... All they'll have to do is charge a little something for this extension of life, and suddenly you are not qualified. ~ BG There was no charge of money to me. I do my duty, and that is all that is asked of me. -- ***** Kiyo System Commander In other words, you are a sean pet that works for treats. *I always though my dog was a sean, and now I know. *Do you play fetch? ~ BG What a warped way of seeing things you have, Mr. Guth. The seans treat me as a subordinate in some ways, as a superior in some ways, and as an equal in most ways. They are kind to me, and in your eyes this makes me their pet? This is probably because you have never known any other way. And this makes me wonder: Do you consider Saul Levy to be your pet? or are you his pet? -- ***** Kiyo System Commander Nice transference there. Ever notice how seans and apparently yourself are never responsible for errors, mistakes or anything the least bit negative or wasteful (other than losing track of your own expendable kind)? Without any formal record/archive of true history, how do seans ever manage to train others as yourself to not make those same old human mistakes or errors in judgment over and over? ~ BG Do you consider Saul Levy to be your pet? or are you his pet? -- ***** Kiyo System Commander Transference and countertransference is a fun game, isn't it. ~ BG Since you are obviously too afraid to answer, I shall not bother you again. |
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On Feb 6, 7:30*pm, "Kiyo" wrote:
"BradGuth" wrote in message ... On Feb 6, 2:17 pm, "Kiyo" wrote: "BradGuth" wrote in message .... On Feb 6, 12:45 pm, "Kiyo" wrote: As Dr. Yubiwan assured me, the longer I live, the less "profound" this aspect, and the ensuing feelings of guilt, become. Yes, such near-immortality and the god-like protected realm that you and other seans remain as stealth and otherwise untouchable makes the past (anything older than 24 hours) unimportant, the exact same mindset as ZNRs and those Rothschilds have always maintained. ~ BG You equate my lessening profound feelings with a diminishing importance of history? All that has happened is important, for all that has happened has led to this moment. Once again you write as if there is no connection between your mind and your fingers. -- ***** Kiyo System Commander If seans had nothing whatsoever to do with our supposedly terrestrial limited evolution and its history to date, then by all means w/o breaking any of your precious sean codes or policy of never changing a damn thing, then do start telling us the whole truth and nothing but the truth that relates to our purely terrestrial history. Are you afraid to do so? Are you afraid that certain rich and powerful humans that systematically lie, steal and cheat will get upset if the whole truth of who did what and when ever comes out? ~ BG You would not believe anything I tell you, because you do not believe anything. Your obfuscation and question avoidance is noted. I believe in whatever I can see and understand as based upon those pesky regular laws of physics. Unlike seans, I record history for the benefit of others, and I would certainly use maps as well as images in order to further share information and to safely navigate. You respect only one person's words, your own. If you'd care to provide something/anything objective or at least better than what most of our subjective science has to offer, I'd become your best friend. If it does not come from your lips, then it is not worthy for your consideration. That's just more that that silly sean transference talking. Try to remember that you're the invited guest in our home. Why would anyone bother to try to enlighten you? You certainly haven't been supportive or even all that informative (at least nothing outside of existing terrestrial knowledge) for any of my topics. You waste my time, and you will do so no longer. -- ***** Kiyo System Commander Perhaps you should go looking for Darla and those other expendable seans. However, while you're still here and in charge of toying with us, tell us exactly what G1.9 is all about, outside of whatever's already in the following context. G1.9+0.3 (supposed supernova and gamma ray blast) Color Code: X-ray (orange); Radio (blue); Infrared (yellow/white stars) http://heasarc.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ob...9_chandra.html http://www.viewzone.com/browndwarf.html http://lyme.startpagina.nl/prikbord/...omet-nears-sun ~ BG |
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On Feb 6, 8:06*pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Feb 6, 7:25*pm, "Kiyo" wrote: "BradGuth" wrote in message ... On Feb 6, 2:20 pm, "Kiyo" wrote: "BradGuth" wrote in message ... On Feb 6, 10:09 am, "Kiyo" wrote: "BradGuth" wrote in message ... On Feb 6, 9:31 am, "Kiyo" wrote: "BradGuth" wrote in message ... All they'll have to do is charge a little something for this extension of life, and suddenly you are not qualified. ~ BG There was no charge of money to me. I do my duty, and that is all that is asked of me. -- ***** Kiyo System Commander In other words, you are a sean pet that works for treats. *I always though my dog was a sean, and now I know. *Do you play fetch? ~ BG What a warped way of seeing things you have, Mr. Guth. The seans treat me as a subordinate in some ways, as a superior in some ways, and as an equal in most ways. They are kind to me, and in your eyes this makes me their pet? This is probably because you have never known any other way. And this makes me wonder: Do you consider Saul Levy to be your pet? or are you his pet? -- ***** Kiyo System Commander Nice transference there. Ever notice how seans and apparently yourself are never responsible for errors, mistakes or anything the least bit negative or wasteful (other than losing track of your own expendable kind)? Without any formal record/archive of true history, how do seans ever manage to train others as yourself to not make those same old human mistakes or errors in judgment over and over? ~ BG Do you consider Saul Levy to be your pet? or are you his pet? -- ***** Kiyo System Commander Transference and countertransference is a fun game, isn't it. ~ BG Since you are obviously too afraid to answer, I shall not bother you again. -- ***** Kiyo System Commander You are clearly not a sean of your word. *~ BG That insult may require satisfaction on the Japanese traditional field of honor! http://vodpod.com/watch/1410296-one-...amurai-history Doube-A |
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"Double-A" wrote in message ... On Feb 6, 8:06 pm, BradGuth wrote: On Feb 6, 7:25 pm, "Kiyo" wrote: "BradGuth" wrote in message ... On Feb 6, 2:20 pm, "Kiyo" wrote: "BradGuth" wrote in message ... On Feb 6, 10:09 am, "Kiyo" wrote: "BradGuth" wrote in message ... On Feb 6, 9:31 am, "Kiyo" wrote: "BradGuth" wrote in message ... All they'll have to do is charge a little something for this extension of life, and suddenly you are not qualified. ~ BG There was no charge of money to me. I do my duty, and that is all that is asked of me. -- ***** Kiyo System Commander In other words, you are a sean pet that works for treats. I always though my dog was a sean, and now I know. Do you play fetch? ~ BG What a warped way of seeing things you have, Mr. Guth. The seans treat me as a subordinate in some ways, as a superior in some ways, and as an equal in most ways. They are kind to me, and in your eyes this makes me their pet? This is probably because you have never known any other way. And this makes me wonder: Do you consider Saul Levy to be your pet? or are you his pet? -- ***** Kiyo System Commander Nice transference there. Ever notice how seans and apparently yourself are never responsible for errors, mistakes or anything the least bit negative or wasteful (other than losing track of your own expendable kind)? Without any formal record/archive of true history, how do seans ever manage to train others as yourself to not make those same old human mistakes or errors in judgment over and over? ~ BG Do you consider Saul Levy to be your pet? or are you his pet? -- ***** Kiyo System Commander Transference and countertransference is a fun game, isn't it. ~ BG Since you are obviously too afraid to answer, I shall not bother you again. -- ***** Kiyo System Commander You are clearly not a sean of your word. ~ BG That insult may require satisfaction on the Japanese traditional field of honor! http://vodpod.com/watch/1410296-one-...amurai-history Doube-A As usual, the man in black is victor. Your friend, Guth san, is not worth getting one's feet wet. -- ***** Kiyo System Commander |
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