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Heber of Spain, astronomer
In one of his books, Girolamo Cardano (1501-1576) published a list of the 12 greatest minds who "excelled all men in the force of genius and invention": Archimedes, Aristotle, etc. All but one of these names are easy to identify. The exception is "Heber of Spain, astronomer." Can anyone here identify Heber? (My only guess is that Cardano is referring to the legendary First Monarch of Ireland, but I can't even find any indication that Heber was particularly noted for science.) James |
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Dear James Dow Allen:
On Feb 17, 12:54*am, James Dow Allen wrote: In one of his books, Girolamo Cardano (1501-1576) published a list of the 12 greatest minds who "excelled all men in the force of genius and invention": Archimedes, Aristotle, etc. All but one of these names are easy to identify. *The exception is "Heber of Spain, astronomer." Can anyone here identify Heber? *(My only guess is that Cardano is referring to the legendary First Monarch of Ireland, but I can't even find any indication that Heber was particularly noted for science.) There is a partial list of "outstanding" Spanish astronomers on Wikipedia from that time backward, and some stand out (but none are name Heber): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_bar_Hiyya http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrus_Alphonsi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mart%C3...A9s_de_Albacar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ab%C5%A...q%C4%81l%C4%AB Heber is essentially a Jewish (derivative) name... post-inquisition... Any indication what Cardano accused him of doing? Good luck! David A. Smith |
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On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:33:01 -0800 (PST), dlzc wrote:
Dear James Dow Allen: On Feb 17, 12:54*am, James Dow Allen wrote: In one of his books, Girolamo Cardano (1501-1576) published a list of the 12 greatest minds who "excelled all men in the force of genius and invention": Archimedes, Aristotle, etc. All but one of these names are easy to identify. *The exception is "Heber of Spain, astronomer." Can anyone here identify Heber? *(My only guess is that Cardano is referring to the legendary First Monarch of Ireland, but I can't even find any indication that Heber was particularly noted for science.) There is a partial list of "outstanding" Spanish astronomers on Wikipedia from that time backward, and some stand out (but none are name Heber): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_bar_Hiyya http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrus_Alphonsi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mart%C3...A9s_de_Albacar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ab%C5%A...q%C4%81l%C4%AB Heber is essentially a Jewish (derivative) name... post-inquisition... Any indication what Cardano accused him of doing? Good luck! David A. Smith Geber in Spanish pronunciation might sound like Heber, but Geber never went to Spain as far as I know. Bud |
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"William Hamblen" ha scritto nel messaggio
... On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:33:01 -0800 (PST), dlzc wrote: Dear James Dow Allen: On Feb 17, 12:54 am, James Dow Allen wrote: In one of his books, Girolamo Cardano (1501-1576) published a list of the 12 greatest minds who "excelled all men in the force of genius and invention": Archimedes, Aristotle, etc. All but one of these names are easy to identify. The exception is "Heber of Spain, astronomer." Can anyone here identify Heber? (My only guess is that Cardano is referring to the legendary First Monarch of Ireland, but I can't even find any indication that Heber was particularly noted for science.) There is a partial list of "outstanding" Spanish astronomers on Wikipedia from that time backward, and some stand out (but none are name Heber): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_bar_Hiyya http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petrus_Alphonsi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mart%C3...A9s_de_Albacar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ab%C5%A...q%C4%81l%C4%AB Heber is essentially a Jewish (derivative) name... post-inquisition... Any indication what Cardano accused him of doing? Good luck! David A. Smith Geber in Spanish pronunciation might sound like Heber, but Geber never went to Spain as far as I know. Bud Probably is: Jabir ibn Aflah http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jabir_ibn_Aflah Best greetings. Sao 67174 |
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On Feb 18, 8:45*am, William Hamblen
wrote: On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:33:01 -0800 (PST), dlzc wrote: On Feb 17, 12:54*am, James Dow Allen wrote: In one of his books, Girolamo Cardano (1501-1576) published a list of the 12 greatest minds who "excelled all men in the force of genius and invention": Archimedes, Aristotle, etc. *All but one of these names are easy to identify. *The exception is "Heber of Spain, astronomer." BTW, another factoid about the list that might be interesting to astronomers is that Ptolemy was included in Cardano's first list (in 2nd place behind only Archimedes) but removed altogether for the 2nd publication! Heber is essentially a Jewish (derivative) name... post-inquisition... Any indication what Cardano accused him of doing? It took me a lot of Googling just to find the list. And "Heber of Spain, astronomer" was the entire reference. (Obviously Cardano didn't write in English; the list was published in _De subtilitate_, but even if I could find that, I don't read Latin.) Geber in Spanish pronunciation might sound like Heber, but Geber never went to Spain as far as I know. Via Wikipedia I see an alchemist called "pseudo-Geber" in 14th century Spain, but no mention of astronomy for him, nor confirmation of the Geber/Heber shift. Is there a forum dedicated to history of ancient science? James |
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James Dow Allen wrote:
On Feb 18, 8:45 am, William Hamblen wrote: On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 13:33:01 -0800 (PST), dlzc wrote: On Feb 17, 12:54 am, James Dow Allen wrote: In one of his books, Girolamo Cardano (1501-1576) published a list of the 12 greatest minds who "excelled all men in the force of genius and invention": Archimedes, Aristotle, etc. All but one of these names are easy to identify. The exception is "Heber of Spain, astronomer." BTW, another factoid about the list that might be interesting to astronomers is that Ptolemy was included in Cardano's first list (in 2nd place behind only Archimedes) but removed altogether for the 2nd publication! Heber is essentially a Jewish (derivative) name... post-inquisition... Any indication what Cardano accused him of doing? It took me a lot of Googling just to find the list. And "Heber of Spain, astronomer" was the entire reference. (Obviously Cardano didn't write in English; the list was published in _De subtilitate_, but even if I could find that, I don't read Latin.) Geber in Spanish pronunciation might sound like Heber, but Geber never went to Spain as far as I know. Via Wikipedia I see an alchemist called "pseudo-Geber" in 14th century Spain, but no mention of astronomy for him, nor confirmation of the Geber/Heber shift. Is there a forum dedicated to history of ancient science? JamesJabir_ibn_Aflah I think SAO 67174 found the right individual for you. Jabir ibn Aflah, Muslim expert in spherical trig from Seville, 12th C. Jabir--Geber--Heber. There is a usenet newsgroup soc.history.science. Not sure of other forums. -- Mike Dworetsky (Remove pants sp*mbl*ck to reply) |
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William Hamblen wrote:
Geber in Spanish pronunciation might sound like Heber, but Geber never went to Spain as far as I know. Wouldn't the Spanish spelling be "Jeber" rather than "Geber"? Yousuf Khan |
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"Yousuf Khan" wrote in message ... William Hamblen wrote: Geber in Spanish pronunciation might sound like Heber, but Geber never went to Spain as far as I know. Wouldn't the Spanish spelling be "Jeber" rather than "Geber"? Yousuf Khan I thought they were a cross between a hamster and a rat. http://www.petsworld.co.uk/images/gerbil.jpg |
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Dear Mike Dworetsky:
On Feb 18, 3:54*am, "Mike Dworetsky" wrote: .... On Feb 17, 12:54 am, James Dow Allen wrote: In one of his books, Girolamo Cardano (1501-1576) .... I think SAO 67174 found the right individual for you. *Jabir ibn Aflah, Muslim expert in spherical trig from Seville, 12th C. *Jabir--Geber--Heber. I concur, especially since Cardano is named in that article... I should have thought to do a reverse lookup, correlating Spain with Cardano. David A. Smith |
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On Feb 18, 4:44*pm, "Sao 67174" Sao wrote:
Probably is: Jabir ibn Aflah OK; I think you're right. (I was curious why the famous Regiomontanus was missing from Cardano's list; the Wikipedia articel indicates why.) Confusing group of Jabir/Geber's! Google shows your message before mine of a few hours ago, but I must have missed it! :-( James |
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