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Old September 8th 09, 08:44 PM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.space.policy,alt.journalism,alt.news-media,uk.sci.astronomy
BradGuth
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Default Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth

On Aug 24, 11:07*am, BradGuth wrote:
Now we have a new and improved gauntlet of a topic/author taboo and/or
banishment enforced policy, or rather media infowar tactic, even if it
means forcing mainstream to ignore any fix to our badly GW traumatized
environment and of its unique biodiversity we call Eden/Earth, or
merely on behalf of improving it’s use of government and our limited
resources. The biggest forbidden topics have to do with discussing
other forms of off-world intelligent life, because such isn’t supposed
to exist unless it’s of a subhuman Zionist/Jewish species that we get
to dominate and profit from. (isn't that special)

All we seem to get nowadays is the usual Republican Zionist Nazi
replies of change nothing and otherwise do nothing, because apparently
nothing is bad with the way everything is, and besides nothing
seriously bad is ever going to happen, and even if it should we mere
humans couldn't have done anything positive or constructive for the
better.

In other Usenet/newsgroup words of cult/cabal wisdom; *Change nothing,
revise nothing and above all do nothing about learning, exploring,
researching or forbid any public sharing of whatever knowledge,
because we (those in charge) supposedly like everything exactly as it
is.

*~ BG

On Jul 6, 6:55*am, BradGuth wrote:

Sirius and our solar system are clearly inseparable, at least
according to the regular laws of physics, Newtonian gravity and
orbital mechanics.


In spite of whatever those mainstream textbooks and their puppet media
has to say, we seem to have become closely associated with the Sirius
star cluster, even though Sirius has only been a relatively newish and
extremely vibrant stellar evolution (quite possibly contributed from
our encountering another galaxy), and especially terrestrial
illuminating of the first 200~250 million years worth.


First off, it took a cosmic molecular cloud worth perhaps at the very
least 125,000 solar masses in order to produce such a 12.5 mass worthy
star system, leaving 99.99% of that molecular mass as supposedly blown
away and having to fend for itself, at a place and time when our
existing solar system wasn't any too far away. *Others might go so far
as to suggest a more than likely molecular cloud mass of 1.25 million,
while still others yet would prefer a more robust cloud worthy of 12.5
million solar masses as having emerged from encountering a smaller
galaxy that merged with our Milky Way. *In any case, that must have
been quite a stellar birthing process, especially if the remains of
this terrific cloud of originally near 100 ly diameter is suddenly
nowhere to be found.


In any case, there's no way that our passive little solar system
wasn't somehow directly affected by and otherwise having become tidal
radius interrelated with such a nearby mass, and/or at least
subsequently associated with the mutual barycenter that's primarily
dominated by the Sirius star/solar system.


Lo and behold, it seems that numerous mergers of galactic proportions
isn’t nearly as uncommon as some of our perpetual naysayers and Big
Bang of devout OT thumpers might care to suggest.


Our Milky Way Galaxy and its Companions (we are not alone)
*http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjansen/l...ocalgroup.html


The Hipparcos Space Astrometry Mission: (mainstream media ignored)
*http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/are...cfm?fareaid=20
*http://www.spacedaily.com/news/milkyway-04m.html


Local galactic motion simulation:
*"The Geneva-Copenhagen survey of the Solar neighbourhood", by B.
Nordström et al.
*http://www.aanda.org/content/view/71/42/lang,en


According to several physics and astronomy kinds of *observationology
science (deductive interpretation of eye-candy plus other peer
replicated research), our Milky Way is made up of at least two
galactic units, with more of the same on their blue-shifted way
towards encountering us (namely Andromeda). *Seems hardly fair
considering that everything was supposedly created via one singular
Big Bang, not to mention that hundreds to perhaps thousands of
galaxies seem rather nicely headed into the Great Attractor (including
us) for their final demise and/or rebirth.


Don’t forget to appreciate those Hubble, KECK and multiple other
archives (including those of what FAS has compiled) depicting
“colliding galaxies”, as well as soon to become ESA color/hue enhanced
and expanded upon via a trio of their impressive orbital
observatories, not to mention whatever the renewed and improved Hubble
plus our next generation of orbital observatories should further
document. *It may even become hard to find galaxies as massive as ours
and Andromeda that are entirely original without their having grown
via mergers.


Where's our TRACEe3 and the all-knowing expertise from FAS, telling us
whatever they seem to know best or at least suspect is most likely?
Surely these brown-nosed clowns of mostly pretend Atheists, as well as
republican faith-based bigots and typically closed mindsets of our
Usenet/newsgroup cabal that are enforcing their mainstream status quo
(much like my personal rabbi shadow tries to do), are hopefully not
representing or otherwise speaking on behalf of our FAS.


*~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”


Interesting, to see how deathly frightened so many folks are these
days. It's almost as though Hitler was still alive and kicking at
those willing to do the math, and otherwise willing to use a deductive
method of connecting the dots. Forbid any free thoughts of revising
history or the scientific record in order to reflect the best
available truths, because you'll only lose your job and benefits, as
such would even scare the Pope to death.

~ BG
  #52  
Old September 9th 09, 02:57 AM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.space.policy,alt.journalism,alt.news-media,uk.sci.astronomy
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Default Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth

On Sep 8, 12:44*pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Aug 24, 11:07*am, BradGuth wrote:







Now we have a new and improved gauntlet of a topic/author taboo and/or
banishment enforced policy, or rather media infowar tactic, even if it
means forcing mainstream to ignore any fix to our badly GW traumatized
environment and of its unique biodiversity we call Eden/Earth, or
merely on behalf of improving it’s use of government and our limited
resources. The biggest forbidden topics have to do with discussing
other forms of off-world intelligent life, because such isn’t supposed
to exist unless it’s of a subhuman Zionist/Jewish species that we get
to dominate and profit from. (isn't that special)


All we seem to get nowadays is the usual Republican Zionist Nazi
replies of change nothing and otherwise do nothing, because apparently
nothing is bad with the way everything is, and besides nothing
seriously bad is ever going to happen, and even if it should we mere
humans couldn't have done anything positive or constructive for the
better.


In other Usenet/newsgroup words of cult/cabal wisdom; *Change nothing,
revise nothing and above all do nothing about learning, exploring,
researching or forbid any public sharing of whatever knowledge,
because we (those in charge) supposedly like everything exactly as it
is.


*~ BG


On Jul 6, 6:55*am, BradGuth wrote:


Sirius and our solar system are clearly inseparable, at least
according to the regular laws of physics, Newtonian gravity and
orbital mechanics.


In spite of whatever those mainstream textbooks and their puppet media
has to say, we seem to have become closely associated with the Sirius
star cluster, even though Sirius has only been a relatively newish and
extremely vibrant stellar evolution (quite possibly contributed from
our encountering another galaxy), and especially terrestrial
illuminating of the first 200~250 million years worth.


First off, it took a cosmic molecular cloud worth perhaps at the very
least 125,000 solar masses in order to produce such a 12.5 mass worthy
star system, leaving 99.99% of that molecular mass as supposedly blown
away and having to fend for itself, at a place and time when our
existing solar system wasn't any too far away. *Others might go so far
as to suggest a more than likely molecular cloud mass of 1.25 million,
while still others yet would prefer a more robust cloud worthy of 12.5
million solar masses as having emerged from encountering a smaller
galaxy that merged with our Milky Way. *In any case, that must have
been quite a stellar birthing process, especially if the remains of
this terrific cloud of originally near 100 ly diameter is suddenly
nowhere to be found.


In any case, there's no way that our passive little solar system
wasn't somehow directly affected by and otherwise having become tidal
radius interrelated with such a nearby mass, and/or at least
subsequently associated with the mutual barycenter that's primarily
dominated by the Sirius star/solar system.


Lo and behold, it seems that numerous mergers of galactic proportions
isn’t nearly as uncommon as some of our perpetual naysayers and Big
Bang of devout OT thumpers might care to suggest.


Our Milky Way Galaxy and its Companions (we are not alone)
*http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjansen/l...ocalgroup.html


The Hipparcos Space Astrometry Mission: (mainstream media ignored)
*http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/are...cfm?fareaid=20
*http://www.spacedaily.com/news/milkyway-04m.html


Local galactic motion simulation:
*"The Geneva-Copenhagen survey of the Solar neighbourhood", by B.
Nordström et al.
*http://www.aanda.org/content/view/71/42/lang,en


According to several physics and astronomy kinds of *observationology
science (deductive interpretation of eye-candy plus other peer
replicated research), our Milky Way is made up of at least two
galactic units, with more of the same on their blue-shifted way
towards encountering us (namely Andromeda). *Seems hardly fair
considering that everything was supposedly created via one singular
Big Bang, not to mention that hundreds to perhaps thousands of
galaxies seem rather nicely headed into the Great Attractor (including
us) for their final demise and/or rebirth.


Don’t forget to appreciate those Hubble, KECK and multiple other
archives (including those of what FAS has compiled) depicting
“colliding galaxies”, as well as soon to become ESA color/hue enhanced
and expanded upon via a trio of their impressive orbital
observatories, not to mention whatever the renewed and improved Hubble
plus our next generation of orbital observatories should further
document. *It may even become hard to find galaxies as massive as ours
and Andromeda that are entirely original without their having grown
via mergers.


Where's our TRACEe3 and the all-knowing expertise from FAS, telling us
whatever they seem to know best or at least suspect is most likely?
Surely these brown-nosed clowns of mostly pretend Atheists, as well as
republican faith-based bigots and typically closed mindsets of our
Usenet/newsgroup cabal that are enforcing their mainstream status quo
(much like my personal rabbi shadow tries to do), are hopefully not
representing or otherwise speaking on behalf of our FAS.


*~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”


Interesting, to see how deathly frightened so many folks are these
days. *It's almost as though Hitler was still alive and kicking at
those willing to do the math, and otherwise willing to use a deductive
method of connecting the dots. *Forbid any free thoughts of revising
history or the scientific record in order to reflect the best
available truths, because you'll only lose your job and benefits, as
such would even scare the Pope to death.


Visit "alt.astronomy" if you want to see what our resident rabbi
thinks. Apparently the Newtonian laws of gravity are not kosher
enough.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.a...se_frm/thread/
8527f0ff70420af5?hl=en#

~ BG
  #53  
Old September 9th 09, 06:04 AM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.space.policy,alt.journalism,alt.news-media,uk.sci.astronomy
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Default Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth

On Sep 8, 12:44*pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Aug 24, 11:07*am, BradGuth wrote:



Now we have a new and improved gauntlet of a topic/author taboo and/or
banishment enforced policy, or rather media infowar tactic, even if it
means forcing mainstream to ignore any fix to our badly GW traumatized
environment and of its unique biodiversity we call Eden/Earth, or
merely on behalf of improving it’s use of government and our limited
resources. The biggest forbidden topics have to do with discussing
other forms of off-world intelligent life, because such isn’t supposed
to exist unless it’s of a subhuman Zionist/Jewish species that we get
to dominate and profit from. (isn't that special)


All we seem to get nowadays is the usual Republican Zionist Nazi
replies of change nothing and otherwise do nothing, because apparently
nothing is bad with the way everything is, and besides nothing
seriously bad is ever going to happen, and even if it should we mere
humans couldn't have done anything positive or constructive for the
better.


In other Usenet/newsgroup words of cult/cabal wisdom; *Change nothing,
revise nothing and above all do nothing about learning, exploring,
researching or forbid any public sharing of whatever knowledge,
because we (those in charge) supposedly like everything exactly as it
is.


*~ BG


On Jul 6, 6:55*am, BradGuth wrote:


Sirius and our solar system are clearly inseparable, at least
according to the regular laws of physics, Newtonian gravity and
orbital mechanics.


In spite of whatever those mainstream textbooks and their puppet media
has to say, we seem to have become closely associated with the Sirius
star cluster, even though Sirius has only been a relatively newish and
extremely vibrant stellar evolution (quite possibly contributed from
our encountering another galaxy), and especially terrestrial
illuminating of the first 200~250 million years worth.


First off, it took a cosmic molecular cloud worth perhaps at the very
least 125,000 solar masses in order to produce such a 12.5 mass worthy
star system, leaving 99.99% of that molecular mass as supposedly blown
away and having to fend for itself, at a place and time when our
existing solar system wasn't any too far away. *Others might go so far
as to suggest a more than likely molecular cloud mass of 1.25 million,
while still others yet would prefer a more robust cloud worthy of 12.5
million solar masses as having emerged from encountering a smaller
galaxy that merged with our Milky Way. *In any case, that must have
been quite a stellar birthing process, especially if the remains of
this terrific cloud of originally near 100 ly diameter is suddenly
nowhere to be found.


In any case, there's no way that our passive little solar system
wasn't somehow directly affected by and otherwise having become tidal
radius interrelated with such a nearby mass, and/or at least
subsequently associated with the mutual barycenter that's primarily
dominated by the Sirius star/solar system.


Lo and behold, it seems that numerous mergers of galactic proportions
isn’t nearly as uncommon as some of our perpetual naysayers and Big
Bang of devout OT thumpers might care to suggest.


Our Milky Way Galaxy and its Companions (we are not alone)
*http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjansen/l...ocalgroup.html


The Hipparcos Space Astrometry Mission: (mainstream media ignored)
*http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/are...cfm?fareaid=20
*http://www.spacedaily.com/news/milkyway-04m.html


Local galactic motion simulation:
*"The Geneva-Copenhagen survey of the Solar neighbourhood", by B.
Nordström et al.
*http://www.aanda.org/content/view/71/42/lang,en


According to several physics and astronomy kinds of *observationology
science (deductive interpretation of eye-candy plus other peer
replicated research), our Milky Way is made up of at least two
galactic units, with more of the same on their blue-shifted way
towards encountering us (namely Andromeda). *Seems hardly fair
considering that everything was supposedly created via one singular
Big Bang, not to mention that hundreds to perhaps thousands of
galaxies seem rather nicely headed into the Great Attractor (including
us) for their final demise and/or rebirth.


Don’t forget to appreciate those Hubble, KECK and multiple other
archives (including those of what FAS has compiled) depicting
“colliding galaxies”, as well as soon to become ESA color/hue enhanced
and expanded upon via a trio of their impressive orbital
observatories, not to mention whatever the renewed and improved Hubble
plus our next generation of orbital observatories should further
document. *It may even become hard to find galaxies as massive as ours
and Andromeda that are entirely original without their having grown
via mergers.


Where's our TRACEe3 and the all-knowing expertise from FAS, telling us
whatever they seem to know best or at least suspect is most likely?
Surely these brown-nosed clowns of mostly pretend Atheists, as well as
republican faith-based bigots and typically closed mindsets of our
Usenet/newsgroup cabal that are enforcing their mainstream status quo
(much like my personal rabbi shadow tries to do), are hopefully not
representing or otherwise speaking on behalf of our FAS.


*~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”


Interesting, to see how deathly frightened so many folks are these
days. *It's almost as though Hitler was still alive and kicking at
those willing to do the math, and otherwise willing to use a deductive
method of connecting the dots. *Forbid any free thoughts of revising
history or the scientific record in order to reflect the best
available truths, because you'll only lose your job and benefits, as
such would even scare the Pope to death.


Visit "alt.astronomy" if you want to see for yourself what our
resident rabbi
thinks. Apparently the Newtonian laws of gravity are not kosher
enough.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.a...0420af5?hl=en#

Mention the original molecular mass of Sirius, gravity and tidal radii
in the same context, and all the kosher brown-nosed clowns come out to
play.

~ BG
  #54  
Old September 9th 09, 06:15 PM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.space.policy,alt.journalism,alt.news-media,uk.sci.astronomy
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Default Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth

On Sep 9, 1:04*am, BradGuth wrote:
On Sep 8, 12:44*pm, BradGuth wrote:





On Aug 24, 11:07*am, BradGuth wrote:


Now we have a new and improved gauntlet of a topic/author taboo and/or
banishment enforced policy, or rather media infowar tactic, even if it
means forcing mainstream to ignore any fix to our badly GW traumatized
environment and of its unique biodiversity we call Eden/Earth, or
merely on behalf of improving it’s use of government and our limited
resources. The biggest forbidden topics have to do with discussing
other forms of off-world intelligent life, because such isn’t supposed
to exist unless it’s of a subhuman Zionist/Jewish species that we get
to dominate and profit from. (isn't that special)


All we seem to get nowadays is the usual Republican Zionist Nazi
replies of change nothing and otherwise do nothing, because apparently
nothing is bad with the way everything is, and besides nothing
seriously bad is ever going to happen, and even if it should we mere
humans couldn't have done anything positive or constructive for the
better.


In other Usenet/newsgroup words of cult/cabal wisdom; *Change nothing,
revise nothing and above all do nothing about learning, exploring,
researching or forbid any public sharing of whatever knowledge,
because we (those in charge) supposedly like everything exactly as it
is.


*~ BG


On Jul 6, 6:55*am, BradGuth wrote:


Sirius and our solar system are clearly inseparable, at least
according to the regular laws of physics, Newtonian gravity and
orbital mechanics.


In spite of whatever those mainstream textbooks and their puppet media
has to say, we seem to have become closely associated with the Sirius
star cluster, even though Sirius has only been a relatively newish and
extremely vibrant stellar evolution (quite possibly contributed from
our encountering another galaxy), and especially terrestrial
illuminating of the first 200~250 million years worth.


First off, it took a cosmic molecular cloud worth perhaps at the very
least 125,000 solar masses in order to produce such a 12.5 mass worthy
star system, leaving 99.99% of that molecular mass as supposedly blown
away and having to fend for itself, at a place and time when our
existing solar system wasn't any too far away. *Others might go so far
as to suggest a more than likely molecular cloud mass of 1.25 million,
while still others yet would prefer a more robust cloud worthy of 12.5
million solar masses as having emerged from encountering a smaller
galaxy that merged with our Milky Way. *In any case, that must have
been quite a stellar birthing process, especially if the remains of
this terrific cloud of originally near 100 ly diameter is suddenly
nowhere to be found.


In any case, there's no way that our passive little solar system
wasn't somehow directly affected by and otherwise having become tidal
radius interrelated with such a nearby mass, and/or at least
subsequently associated with the mutual barycenter that's primarily
dominated by the Sirius star/solar system.


Lo and behold, it seems that numerous mergers of galactic proportions
isn’t nearly as uncommon as some of our perpetual naysayers and Big
Bang of devout OT thumpers might care to suggest.


Our Milky Way Galaxy and its Companions (we are not alone)
*http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjansen/l...ocalgroup.html


The Hipparcos Space Astrometry Mission: (mainstream media ignored)
*http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/are...cfm?fareaid=20
*http://www.spacedaily.com/news/milkyway-04m.html


Local galactic motion simulation:
*"The Geneva-Copenhagen survey of the Solar neighbourhood", by B.
Nordström et al.
*http://www.aanda.org/content/view/71/42/lang,en


According to several physics and astronomy kinds of *observationology
science (deductive interpretation of eye-candy plus other peer
replicated research), our Milky Way is made up of at least two
galactic units, with more of the same on their blue-shifted way
towards encountering us (namely Andromeda). *Seems hardly fair
considering that everything was supposedly created via one singular
Big Bang, not to mention that hundreds to perhaps thousands of
galaxies seem rather nicely headed into the Great Attractor (including
us) for their final demise and/or rebirth.


Don’t forget to appreciate those Hubble, KECK and multiple other
archives (including those of what FAS has compiled) depicting
“colliding galaxies”, as well as soon to become ESA color/hue enhanced
and expanded upon via a trio of their impressive orbital
observatories, not to mention whatever the renewed and improved Hubble
plus our next generation of orbital observatories should further
document. *It may even become hard to find galaxies as massive as ours
and Andromeda that are entirely original without their having grown
via mergers.


Where's our TRACEe3 and the all-knowing expertise from FAS, telling us
whatever they seem to know best or at least suspect is most likely?
Surely these brown-nosed clowns of mostly pretend Atheists, as well as
republican faith-based bigots and typically closed mindsets of our
Usenet/newsgroup cabal that are enforcing their mainstream status quo
(much like my personal rabbi shadow tries to do), are hopefully not
representing or otherwise speaking on behalf of our FAS.


*~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”


Interesting, to see how deathly frightened so many folks are these
days. *It's almost as though Hitler was still alive and kicking at
those willing to do the math, and otherwise willing to use a deductive
method of connecting the dots. *Forbid any free thoughts of revising
history or the scientific record in order to reflect the best
available truths, because you'll only lose your job and benefits, as
such would even scare the Pope to death.


Visit "alt.astronomy" if you want to see for yourself what our
resident rabbi
thinks. *Apparently the Newtonian laws of gravity are not kosher
enough.

No, not enough, Brad.

We want the whole enchilada, not just the crumbs that dribble from the
emperor's table. Apparently some want to remain ignorant that
(Newton's) hypotheses didn't evolve from another's hypothesis, it
evolved by solving a conjecture that he had with collaboration with
others along with some of his (and perhaps others') observations.

Newton completely lacked the tools of faster discernment, such as
computers to solve equations, mathematical tables, etc., just as there
are many "fringe group" scientists or willing entrepreneurs that are
practically pregnant with expectation that if they just had a small
laboratory or production line to manufacture a prototype of some kind,
that their ideas would not have been quashed by selfish politicians
with an axe to grind.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.a.../thread/8527f0...

Mention the original molecular mass of Sirius, gravity and tidal radii
in the same context, and all the kosher brown-nosed clowns come out to
play.

Samson slaughtered over 3,000 Philistines in the Temple of Dagon.
Perhaps the Philistines were misusing what the Dagon had given them in
terms of knowledge - and the bigger God Yahwah served it to them a la
catre?

*~ BG- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


  #55  
Old September 9th 09, 06:21 PM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.space.policy,alt.journalism,alt.news-media,uk.sci.astronomy
American
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Posts: 1,224
Default Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth

On Sep 8, 12:44 pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Aug 24, 11:07 am, BradGuth wrote:


Now we have a new and improved gauntlet of a topic/author taboo and/or
banishment enforced policy, or rather media infowar tactic, even if it
means forcing mainstream to ignore any fix to our badly GW traumatized
environment and of its unique biodiversity we call Eden/Earth, or
merely on behalf of improving it’s use of government and our limited
resources. The biggest forbidden topics have to do with discussing
other forms of off-world intelligent life, because such isn’t supposed
to exist unless it’s of a subhuman Zionist/Jewish species that we get
to dominate and profit from. (isn't that special)


All we seem to get nowadays is the usual Republican Zionist Nazi
replies of change nothing and otherwise do nothing, because apparently
nothing is bad with the way everything is, and besides nothing
seriously bad is ever going to happen, and even if it should we mere
humans couldn't have done anything positive or constructive for the
better.


In other Usenet/newsgroup words of cult/cabal wisdom; Change nothing,
revise nothing and above all do nothing about learning, exploring,
researching or forbid any public sharing of whatever knowledge,
because we (those in charge) supposedly like everything exactly as it
is.


~ BG


On Jul 6, 6:55 am, BradGuth wrote:


Sirius and our solar system are clearly inseparable, at least
according to the regular laws of physics, Newtonian gravity and
orbital mechanics.


In spite of whatever those mainstream textbooks and their puppet media
has to say, we seem to have become closely associated with the Sirius
star cluster, even though Sirius has only been a relatively newish and
extremely vibrant stellar evolution (quite possibly contributed from
our encountering another galaxy), and especially terrestrial
illuminating of the first 200~250 million years worth.


First off, it took a cosmic molecular cloud worth perhaps at the very
least 125,000 solar masses in order to produce such a 12.5 mass worthy
star system, leaving 99.99% of that molecular mass as supposedly blown
away and having to fend for itself, at a place and time when our
existing solar system wasn't any too far away. Others might go so far
as to suggest a more than likely molecular cloud mass of 1.25 million,
while still others yet would prefer a more robust cloud worthy of 12.5
million solar masses as having emerged from encountering a smaller
galaxy that merged with our Milky Way. In any case, that must have
been quite a stellar birthing process, especially if the remains of
this terrific cloud of originally near 100 ly diameter is suddenly
nowhere to be found.


In any case, there's no way that our passive little solar system
wasn't somehow directly affected by and otherwise having become tidal
radius interrelated with such a nearby mass, and/or at least
subsequently associated with the mutual barycenter that's primarily
dominated by the Sirius star/solar system.


Lo and behold, it seems that numerous mergers of galactic proportions
isn’t nearly as uncommon as some of our perpetual naysayers and Big
Bang of devout OT thumpers might care to suggest.


Our Milky Way Galaxy and its Companions (we are not alone)
http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjansen/l...ocalgroup.html


The Hipparcos Space Astrometry Mission: (mainstream media ignored)
http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/are...cfm?fareaid=20
http://www.spacedaily.com/news/milkyway-04m.html


Local galactic motion simulation:
"The Geneva-Copenhagen survey of the Solar neighbourhood", by B.
Nordström et al.
http://www.aanda.org/content/view/71/42/lang,en


According to several physics and astronomy kinds of observationology
science (deductive interpretation of eye-candy plus other peer
replicated research), our Milky Way is made up of at least two
galactic units, with more of the same on their blue-shifted way
towards encountering us (namely Andromeda). Seems hardly fair
considering that everything was supposedly created via one singular
Big Bang, not to mention that hundreds to perhaps thousands of
galaxies seem rather nicely headed into the Great Attractor (including
us) for their final demise and/or rebirth.


Don’t forget to appreciate those Hubble, KECK and multiple other
archives (including those of what FAS has compiled) depicting
“colliding galaxies”, as well as soon to become ESA color/hue enhanced
and expanded upon via a trio of their impressive orbital
observatories, not to mention whatever the renewed and improved Hubble
plus our next generation of orbital observatories should further
document. It may even become hard to find galaxies as massive as ours
and Andromeda that are entirely original without their having grown
via mergers.


Where's our TRACEe3 and the all-knowing expertise from FAS, telling us
whatever they seem to know best or at least suspect is most likely?
Surely these brown-nosed clowns of mostly pretend Atheists, as well as
republican faith-based bigots and typically closed mindsets of our
Usenet/newsgroup cabal that are enforcing their mainstream status quo
(much like my personal rabbi shadow tries to do), are hopefully not
representing or otherwise speaking on behalf of our FAS.


~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”


Interesting, to see how deathly frightened so many folks are these
days. It's almost as though Hitler was still alive and kicking at
those willing to do the math, and otherwise willing to use a deductive
method of connecting the dots. Forbid any free thoughts of revising
history or the scientific record in order to reflect the best
available truths, because you'll only lose your job and benefits, as
such would even scare the Pope to death.


Visit "alt.astronomy" if you want to see for yourself what our
resident rabbi
thinks. Apparently the Newtonian laws of gravity are not kosher
enough.


No, not enough, Brad.

We want the whole enchilada, not just the crumbs that dribble from
the
emperor's table. Apparently some want to remain ignorant that
(Newton's) hypotheses didn't evolve from another's hypothesis, it
evolved by solving a conjecture that he had with collaboration with
others along with some of his (and perhaps others') observations.

Newton completely lacked the tools of faster discernment, such as
computers to solve equations, mathematical tables, etc., just as
there
are many "fringe group" scientists or willing entrepreneurs that are
practically pregnant with expectation that if they just had a small
laboratory or production line to manufacture a prototype of some
kind,
that their ideas would not have been quashed by selfish politicians
with an axe to grind.

http://groups.google.com/group/alt.a.../thread/8527f0...


Mention the original molecular mass of Sirius, gravity and tidal radii
in the same context, and all the kosher brown-nosed clowns come out to
play.


Samson slaughtered over 3,000 Philistines in the Temple of Dagon.
Perhaps the Philistines were misusing what the Dagon had given them
in
terms of knowledge - and the bigger God Yahwah served it to them a la
carte?



American

- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -

~ BG- Hide quoted text -



- Show quoted text -

  #56  
Old September 9th 09, 06:47 PM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.space.policy,alt.journalism,alt.news-media,uk.sci.astronomy
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Default Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth

On Sep 9, 10:21*am, American wrote:
On Sep 8, 12:44 pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Aug 24, 11:07 am, BradGuth wrote:
Now we have a new and improved gauntlet of a topic/author taboo and/or
banishment enforced policy, or rather media infowar tactic, even if it
means forcing mainstream to ignore any fix to our badly GW traumatized
environment and of its unique biodiversity we call Eden/Earth, or
merely on behalf of improving it’s use of government and our limited
resources. The biggest forbidden topics have to do with discussing
other forms of off-world intelligent life, because such isn’t supposed
to exist unless it’s of a subhuman Zionist/Jewish species that we get
to dominate and profit from. (isn't that special)
All we seem to get nowadays is the usual Republican Zionist Nazi
replies of change nothing and otherwise do nothing, because apparently
nothing is bad with the way everything is, and besides nothing
seriously bad is ever going to happen, and even if it should we mere
humans couldn't have done anything positive or constructive for the
better.
In other Usenet/newsgroup words of cult/cabal wisdom; *Change nothing,
revise nothing and above all do nothing about learning, exploring,
researching or forbid any public sharing of whatever knowledge,
because we (those in charge) supposedly like everything exactly as it
is.
*~ BG
On Jul 6, 6:55 am, BradGuth wrote:
Sirius and our solar system are clearly inseparable, at least
according to the regular laws of physics, Newtonian gravity and
orbital mechanics.
In spite of whatever those mainstream textbooks and their puppet media
has to say, we seem to have become closely associated with the Sirius
star cluster, even though Sirius has only been a relatively newish and
extremely vibrant stellar evolution (quite possibly contributed from
our encountering another galaxy), and especially terrestrial
illuminating of the first 200~250 million years worth.
First off, it took a cosmic molecular cloud worth perhaps at the very
least 125,000 solar masses in order to produce such a 12.5 mass worthy
star system, leaving 99.99% of that molecular mass as supposedly blown
away and having to fend for itself, at a place and time when our
existing solar system wasn't any too far away. *Others might go so far
as to suggest a more than likely molecular cloud mass of 1.25 million,
while still others yet would prefer a more robust cloud worthy of 12.5
million solar masses as having emerged from encountering a smaller
galaxy that merged with our Milky Way. *In any case, that must have
been quite a stellar birthing process, especially if the remains of
this terrific cloud of originally near 100 ly diameter is suddenly
nowhere to be found.
In any case, there's no way that our passive little solar system
wasn't somehow directly affected by and otherwise having become tidal
radius interrelated with such a nearby mass, and/or at least
subsequently associated with the mutual barycenter that's primarily
dominated by the Sirius star/solar system.
Lo and behold, it seems that numerous mergers of galactic proportions
isn’t nearly as uncommon as some of our perpetual naysayers and Big
Bang of devout OT thumpers might care to suggest.
Our Milky Way Galaxy and its Companions (we are not alone)
*http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjansen/l...ocalgroup.html
The Hipparcos Space Astrometry Mission: (mainstream media ignored)
*http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/are...cfm?fareaid=20
*http://www.spacedaily.com/news/milkyway-04m.html
Local galactic motion simulation:
*"The Geneva-Copenhagen survey of the Solar neighbourhood", by B.

  #57  
Old September 9th 09, 07:19 PM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.space.policy,alt.journalism,alt.news-media,uk.sci.astronomy
American
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Posts: 1,224
Default Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth

On Sep 9, 1:47*pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Sep 9, 10:21*am, American wrote:





On Sep 8, 12:44 pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Aug 24, 11:07 am, BradGuth wrote:
Now we have a new and improved gauntlet of a topic/author taboo and/or
banishment enforced policy, or rather media infowar tactic, even if it
means forcing mainstream to ignore any fix to our badly GW traumatized
environment and of its unique biodiversity we call Eden/Earth, or
merely on behalf of improving it’s use of government and our limited
resources. The biggest forbidden topics have to do with discussing
other forms of off-world intelligent life, because such isn’t supposed
to exist unless it’s of a subhuman Zionist/Jewish species that we get
to dominate and profit from. (isn't that special)
All we seem to get nowadays is the usual Republican Zionist Nazi
replies of change nothing and otherwise do nothing, because apparently
nothing is bad with the way everything is, and besides nothing
seriously bad is ever going to happen, and even if it should we mere
humans couldn't have done anything positive or constructive for the
better.
In other Usenet/newsgroup words of cult/cabal wisdom; *Change nothing,
revise nothing and above all do nothing about learning, exploring,
researching or forbid any public sharing of whatever knowledge,
because we (those in charge) supposedly like everything exactly as it
is.
*~ BG
On Jul 6, 6:55 am, BradGuth wrote:
Sirius and our solar system are clearly inseparable, at least
according to the regular laws of physics, Newtonian gravity and
orbital mechanics.
In spite of whatever those mainstream textbooks and their puppet media
has to say, we seem to have become closely associated with the Sirius
star cluster, even though Sirius has only been a relatively newish and
extremely vibrant stellar evolution (quite possibly contributed from
our encountering another galaxy), and especially terrestrial
illuminating of the first 200~250 million years worth.
First off, it took a cosmic molecular cloud worth perhaps at the very
least 125,000 solar masses in order to produce such a 12.5 mass worthy
star system, leaving 99.99% of that molecular mass as supposedly blown
away and having to fend for itself, at a place and time when our
existing solar system wasn't any too far away. *Others might go so far
as to suggest a more than likely molecular cloud mass of 1.25 million,
while still others yet would prefer a more robust cloud worthy of 12.5
million solar masses as having emerged from encountering a smaller
galaxy that merged with our Milky Way. *In any case, that must have
been quite a stellar birthing process, especially if the remains of
this terrific cloud of originally near 100 ly diameter is suddenly
nowhere to be found.
In any case, there's no way that our passive little solar system
wasn't somehow directly affected by and otherwise having become tidal
radius interrelated with such a nearby mass, and/or at least
subsequently associated with the mutual barycenter that's primarily
dominated by the Sirius star/solar system.
Lo and behold, it seems that numerous mergers of galactic proportions
isn’t nearly as uncommon as some of our perpetual naysayers and Big
Bang of devout OT thumpers might care to suggest.
Our Milky Way Galaxy and its Companions (we are not alone)
*http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjansen/l...ocalgroup.html
The Hipparcos Space Astrometry Mission: (mainstream media ignored)
*http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/are...cfm?fareaid=20
*http://www.spacedaily.com/news/milkyway-04m.html
Local galactic motion simulation:
*"The Geneva-Copenhagen survey of the Solar neighbourhood", by B.
Nordström et al.
*http://www.aanda.org/content/view/71/42/lang,en
According to several physics and astronomy kinds of *observationology
science (deductive interpretation of eye-candy plus other peer
replicated research), our Milky Way is made up of at least two
galactic units, with more of the same on their blue-shifted way
towards encountering us (namely Andromeda). *Seems hardly fair
considering that everything was supposedly created via one singular
Big Bang, not to mention that hundreds to perhaps thousands of
galaxies seem rather nicely headed into the Great Attractor (including
us) for their final demise and/or rebirth.
Don’t forget to appreciate those Hubble, KECK and multiple other
archives (including those of what FAS has compiled) depicting
“colliding galaxies”, as well as soon to become ESA color/hue enhanced
and expanded upon via a trio of their impressive orbital
observatories, not to mention whatever the renewed and improved Hubble
plus our next generation of orbital observatories should further
document. *It may even become hard to find galaxies as massive as ours
and Andromeda that are entirely original without their having grown
via mergers.
Where's our TRACEe3 and the all-knowing expertise from FAS, telling us
whatever they seem to know best or at least suspect is most likely?
Surely these brown-nosed clowns of mostly pretend Atheists, as well as
republican faith-based bigots and typically closed mindsets of our
Usenet/newsgroup cabal that are enforcing their mainstream status quo
(much like my personal rabbi shadow tries to do), are hopefully not
representing or otherwise speaking on behalf of our FAS.
*~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”
Interesting, to see how deathly frightened so many folks are these
days. *It's almost as though Hitler was still alive and kicking at
those willing to do the math, and otherwise willing to use a deductive
method of connecting the dots. *Forbid any free thoughts of revising
history or the scientific record in order to reflect the best
available truths, because you'll only lose your job and benefits, as
such would even scare the Pope to death.
Visit "alt.astronomy" if you want to see for yourself what our
resident rabbi
thinks. *Apparently the Newtonian laws of gravity are not kosher
enough.


No, not enough, Brad.


We want the whole enchilada, not just the crumbs that dribble from
the
emperor's table. *Apparently some want to remain ignorant that
(Newton's) hypotheses didn't evolve from another's hypothesis, it
evolved by solving a conjecture that he had with collaboration with
others along with some of his (and perhaps others') observations.


Newton completely lacked the tools of faster discernment, such as
computers to solve equations, mathematical tables, etc., just as
there
are many "fringe group" scientists or willing entrepreneurs that are
practically pregnant with expectation that if they just had a small
laboratory or production line to manufacture a prototype of some
kind,
that their ideas would not have been quashed by selfish politicians
with an axe to grind.


http://groups.google.com/group/alt.a.../thread/8527f0....
Mention the original molecular mass of Sirius, gravity and tidal radii
in the same context, and all the kosher brown-nosed clowns come out to
play.


Samson slaughtered over 3,000 Philistines in the Temple of Dagon.
Perhaps the Philistines were misusing what the Dagon had given them
in
terms of knowledge - and the bigger God Yahwah served it to them a la
carte?


American


So, where exactly are these nifty Gods when you need them?

Are you one of their terrestrial minions? *and if so, what have you
accomplished?

I'm looking for honest collaboration and other observationology
talent. (got any?)

*~ BG- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Sure, what happened after reconstruction?

What happens with transnationalist treaties when the U.S. was/is
supposed to shoulder reparations, when TITHING would have solved
problems internationally without having to depend so much on
international banking cartels being just so many busybodies with their
hard-earned loot?

Why did real Americans LEAVE the continent of Europe, as well as
imperialist England anyway?

Wasn't it a result of recognizing the fact that ourselves, as 'grains
of sand' were receiving an otherworldly promise of dominion over the
entire earth?

If this is true, then why fund ANY NATION, INCLUDING OUR OWN for that
matter, that magnifies itself as some extreme social political monster
that must impose its will over the entire earth?


American

  #58  
Old September 9th 09, 08:40 PM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.space.policy,alt.journalism,alt.news-media,uk.sci.astronomy
BradGuth
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Posts: 21,544
Default Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth

On Sep 9, 11:19*am, American wrote:
On Sep 9, 1:47*pm, BradGuth wrote:



On Sep 9, 10:21*am, American wrote:


On Sep 8, 12:44 pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Aug 24, 11:07 am, BradGuth wrote:
Now we have a new and improved gauntlet of a topic/author taboo and/or
banishment enforced policy, or rather media infowar tactic, even if it
means forcing mainstream to ignore any fix to our badly GW traumatized
environment and of its unique biodiversity we call Eden/Earth, or
merely on behalf of improving it’s use of government and our limited
resources. The biggest forbidden topics have to do with discussing
other forms of off-world intelligent life, because such isn’t supposed
to exist unless it’s of a subhuman Zionist/Jewish species that we get
to dominate and profit from. (isn't that special)
All we seem to get nowadays is the usual Republican Zionist Nazi
replies of change nothing and otherwise do nothing, because apparently
nothing is bad with the way everything is, and besides nothing
seriously bad is ever going to happen, and even if it should we mere
humans couldn't have done anything positive or constructive for the
better.
In other Usenet/newsgroup words of cult/cabal wisdom; *Change nothing,
revise nothing and above all do nothing about learning, exploring,
researching or forbid any public sharing of whatever knowledge,
because we (those in charge) supposedly like everything exactly as it
is.
*~ BG
On Jul 6, 6:55 am, BradGuth wrote:
Sirius and our solar system are clearly inseparable, at least
according to the regular laws of physics, Newtonian gravity and
orbital mechanics.
In spite of whatever those mainstream textbooks and their puppet media
has to say, we seem to have become closely associated with the Sirius
star cluster, even though Sirius has only been a relatively newish and
extremely vibrant stellar evolution (quite possibly contributed from
our encountering another galaxy), and especially terrestrial
illuminating of the first 200~250 million years worth.
First off, it took a cosmic molecular cloud worth perhaps at the very
least 125,000 solar masses in order to produce such a 12.5 mass worthy
star system, leaving 99.99% of that molecular mass as supposedly blown
away and having to fend for itself, at a place and time when our
existing solar system wasn't any too far away. *Others might go so far
as to suggest a more than likely molecular cloud mass of 1.25 million,
while still others yet would prefer a more robust cloud worthy of 12.5
million solar masses as having emerged from encountering a smaller
galaxy that merged with our Milky Way. *In any case, that must have
been quite a stellar birthing process, especially if the remains of
this terrific cloud of originally near 100 ly diameter is suddenly
nowhere to be found.
In any case, there's no way that our passive little solar system
wasn't somehow directly affected by and otherwise having become tidal
radius interrelated with such a nearby mass, and/or at least
subsequently associated with the mutual barycenter that's primarily
dominated by the Sirius star/solar system.
Lo and behold, it seems that numerous mergers of galactic proportions
isn’t nearly as uncommon as some of our perpetual naysayers and Big
Bang of devout OT thumpers might care to suggest.
Our Milky Way Galaxy and its Companions (we are not alone)
*http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjansen/l...ocalgroup.html
The Hipparcos Space Astrometry Mission: (mainstream media ignored)
*http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/are...cfm?fareaid=20
*http://www.spacedaily.com/news/milkyway-04m.html
Local galactic motion simulation:
*"The Geneva-Copenhagen survey of the Solar neighbourhood", by B.
Nordström et al.
*http://www.aanda.org/content/view/71/42/lang,en
According to several physics and astronomy kinds of *observationology
science (deductive interpretation of eye-candy plus other peer
replicated research), our Milky Way is made up of at least two
galactic units, with more of the same on their blue-shifted way
towards encountering us (namely Andromeda). *Seems hardly fair
considering that everything was supposedly created via one singular
Big Bang, not to mention that hundreds to perhaps thousands of
galaxies seem rather nicely headed into the Great Attractor (including
us) for their final demise and/or rebirth.
Don’t forget to appreciate those Hubble, KECK and multiple other
archives (including those of what FAS has compiled) depicting
“colliding galaxies”, as well as soon to become ESA color/hue enhanced
and expanded upon via a trio of their impressive orbital
observatories, not to mention whatever the renewed and improved Hubble
plus our next generation of orbital observatories should further
document. *It may even become hard to find galaxies as massive as ours
and Andromeda that are entirely original without their having grown
via mergers.
Where's our TRACEe3 and the all-knowing expertise from FAS, telling us
whatever they seem to know best or at least suspect is most likely?
Surely these brown-nosed clowns of mostly pretend Atheists, as well as
republican faith-based bigots and typically closed mindsets of our
Usenet/newsgroup cabal that are enforcing their mainstream status quo
(much like my personal rabbi shadow tries to do), are hopefully not
representing or otherwise speaking on behalf of our FAS.
*~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”
Interesting, to see how deathly frightened so many folks are these
days. *It's almost as though Hitler was still alive and kicking at
those willing to do the math, and otherwise willing to use a deductive
method of connecting the dots. *Forbid any free thoughts of revising
history or the scientific record in order to reflect the best
available truths, because you'll only lose your job and benefits, as
such would even scare the Pope to death.
Visit "alt.astronomy" if you want to see for yourself what our
resident rabbi
thinks. *Apparently the Newtonian laws of gravity are not kosher
enough.


No, not enough, Brad.


We want the whole enchilada, not just the crumbs that dribble from
the
emperor's table. *Apparently some want to remain ignorant that
(Newton's) hypotheses didn't evolve from another's hypothesis, it
evolved by solving a conjecture that he had with collaboration with
others along with some of his (and perhaps others') observations.


Newton completely lacked the tools of faster discernment, such as
computers to solve equations, mathematical tables, etc., just as
there
are many "fringe group" scientists or willing entrepreneurs that are
practically pregnant with expectation that if they just had a small
laboratory or production line to manufacture a prototype of some
kind,
that their ideas would not have been quashed by selfish politicians
with an axe to grind.


http://groups.google.com/group/alt.a.../thread/8527f0...
Mention the original molecular mass of Sirius, gravity and tidal radii
in the same context, and all the kosher brown-nosed clowns come out to
play.


Samson slaughtered over 3,000 Philistines in the Temple of Dagon.
Perhaps the Philistines were misusing what the Dagon had given them
in
terms of knowledge - and the bigger God Yahwah served it to them a la
carte?


American


So, where exactly are these nifty Gods when you need them?


Are you one of their terrestrial minions? *and if so, what have you
accomplished?


I'm looking for honest collaboration and other observationology
talent. (got any?)


*~ BG- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Sure, what happened after reconstruction?

What happens with transnationalist treaties when the U.S. was/is
supposed to shoulder reparations, when TITHING would have solved
problems internationally without having to depend so much on
international banking cartels being just so many busybodies with their
hard-earned loot?

Why did real Americans LEAVE the continent of Europe, as well as
imperialist England anyway?

Wasn't it a result of recognizing the fact that ourselves, as 'grains
of sand' were receiving an otherworldly promise of dominion over the
entire earth?

If this is true, then why fund ANY NATION, INCLUDING OUR OWN for that
matter, that magnifies itself as some extreme social political monster
that must impose its will over the entire earth?

American


You'll have to ask our resident rabbi Saul Levy, because supposedly he
knows everything that William Mook doesn't know. Between those two,
nothing should go unanswered, much less outside of whatever's kosher
approved.

~ BG
  #59  
Old September 10th 09, 12:20 AM posted to alt.astronomy,sci.space.policy,alt.journalism,alt.news-media,uk.sci.astronomy
American
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Posts: 1,224
Default Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable / FAS & Brad Guth

On Sep 9, 3:40*pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Sep 9, 11:19*am, American wrote:





On Sep 9, 1:47*pm, BradGuth wrote:


On Sep 9, 10:21*am, American wrote:


On Sep 8, 12:44 pm, BradGuth wrote:
On Aug 24, 11:07 am, BradGuth wrote:
Now we have a new and improved gauntlet of a topic/author taboo and/or
banishment enforced policy, or rather media infowar tactic, even if it
means forcing mainstream to ignore any fix to our badly GW traumatized
environment and of its unique biodiversity we call Eden/Earth, or
merely on behalf of improving it’s use of government and our limited
resources. The biggest forbidden topics have to do with discussing
other forms of off-world intelligent life, because such isn’t supposed
to exist unless it’s of a subhuman Zionist/Jewish species that we get
to dominate and profit from. (isn't that special)
All we seem to get nowadays is the usual Republican Zionist Nazi
replies of change nothing and otherwise do nothing, because apparently
nothing is bad with the way everything is, and besides nothing
seriously bad is ever going to happen, and even if it should we mere
humans couldn't have done anything positive or constructive for the
better.
In other Usenet/newsgroup words of cult/cabal wisdom; *Change nothing,
revise nothing and above all do nothing about learning, exploring,
researching or forbid any public sharing of whatever knowledge,
because we (those in charge) supposedly like everything exactly as it
is.
*~ BG
On Jul 6, 6:55 am, BradGuth wrote:
Sirius and our solar system are clearly inseparable, at least
according to the regular laws of physics, Newtonian gravity and
orbital mechanics.
In spite of whatever those mainstream textbooks and their puppet media
has to say, we seem to have become closely associated with the Sirius
star cluster, even though Sirius has only been a relatively newish and
extremely vibrant stellar evolution (quite possibly contributed from
our encountering another galaxy), and especially terrestrial
illuminating of the first 200~250 million years worth.
First off, it took a cosmic molecular cloud worth perhaps at the very
least 125,000 solar masses in order to produce such a 12.5 mass worthy
star system, leaving 99.99% of that molecular mass as supposedly blown
away and having to fend for itself, at a place and time when our
existing solar system wasn't any too far away. *Others might go so far
as to suggest a more than likely molecular cloud mass of 1.25 million,
while still others yet would prefer a more robust cloud worthy of 12.5
million solar masses as having emerged from encountering a smaller
galaxy that merged with our Milky Way. *In any case, that must have
been quite a stellar birthing process, especially if the remains of
this terrific cloud of originally near 100 ly diameter is suddenly
nowhere to be found.
In any case, there's no way that our passive little solar system
wasn't somehow directly affected by and otherwise having become tidal
radius interrelated with such a nearby mass, and/or at least
subsequently associated with the mutual barycenter that's primarily
dominated by the Sirius star/solar system.
Lo and behold, it seems that numerous mergers of galactic proportions
isn’t nearly as uncommon as some of our perpetual naysayers and Big
Bang of devout OT thumpers might care to suggest.
Our Milky Way Galaxy and its Companions (we are not alone)
*http://www.public.asu.edu/~rjansen/l...calgroup..html
The Hipparcos Space Astrometry Mission: (mainstream media ignored)
*http://sci.esa.int/science-e/www/are...cfm?fareaid=20
*http://www.spacedaily.com/news/milkyway-04m.html
Local galactic motion simulation:
*"The Geneva-Copenhagen survey of the Solar neighbourhood", by B.
Nordström et al.
*http://www.aanda.org/content/view/71/42/lang,en
According to several physics and astronomy kinds of *observationology
science (deductive interpretation of eye-candy plus other peer
replicated research), our Milky Way is made up of at least two
galactic units, with more of the same on their blue-shifted way
towards encountering us (namely Andromeda). *Seems hardly fair
considering that everything was supposedly created via one singular
Big Bang, not to mention that hundreds to perhaps thousands of
galaxies seem rather nicely headed into the Great Attractor (including
us) for their final demise and/or rebirth.
Don’t forget to appreciate those Hubble, KECK and multiple other
archives (including those of what FAS has compiled) depicting
“colliding galaxies”, as well as soon to become ESA color/hue enhanced
and expanded upon via a trio of their impressive orbital
observatories, not to mention whatever the renewed and improved Hubble
plus our next generation of orbital observatories should further
document. *It may even become hard to find galaxies as massive as ours
and Andromeda that are entirely original without their having grown
via mergers.
Where's our TRACEe3 and the all-knowing expertise from FAS, telling us
whatever they seem to know best or at least suspect is most likely?
Surely these brown-nosed clowns of mostly pretend Atheists, as well as
republican faith-based bigots and typically closed mindsets of our
Usenet/newsgroup cabal that are enforcing their mainstream status quo
(much like my personal rabbi shadow tries to do), are hopefully not
representing or otherwise speaking on behalf of our FAS.
*~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG / “Guth Usenet”
Interesting, to see how deathly frightened so many folks are these
days. *It's almost as though Hitler was still alive and kicking at
those willing to do the math, and otherwise willing to use a deductive
method of connecting the dots. *Forbid any free thoughts of revising
history or the scientific record in order to reflect the best
available truths, because you'll only lose your job and benefits, as
such would even scare the Pope to death.
Visit "alt.astronomy" if you want to see for yourself what our
resident rabbi
thinks. *Apparently the Newtonian laws of gravity are not kosher
enough.


No, not enough, Brad.


We want the whole enchilada, not just the crumbs that dribble from
the
emperor's table. *Apparently some want to remain ignorant that
(Newton's) hypotheses didn't evolve from another's hypothesis, it
evolved by solving a conjecture that he had with collaboration with
others along with some of his (and perhaps others') observations.


Newton completely lacked the tools of faster discernment, such as
computers to solve equations, mathematical tables, etc., just as
there
are many "fringe group" scientists or willing entrepreneurs that are
practically pregnant with expectation that if they just had a small
laboratory or production line to manufacture a prototype of some
kind,
that their ideas would not have been quashed by selfish politicians
with an axe to grind.


http://groups.google.com/group/alt.a.../thread/8527f0...
Mention the original molecular mass of Sirius, gravity and tidal radii
in the same context, and all the kosher brown-nosed clowns come out to
play.


Samson slaughtered over 3,000 Philistines in the Temple of Dagon.
Perhaps the Philistines were misusing what the Dagon had given them
in
terms of knowledge - and the bigger God Yahwah served it to them a la
carte?


American


So, where exactly are these nifty Gods when you need them?


Are you one of their terrestrial minions? *and if so, what have you
accomplished?


I'm looking for honest collaboration and other observationology
talent. (got any?)


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Sure, what happened after reconstruction?


What happens with transnationalist treaties when the U.S. was/is
supposed to shoulder reparations, when TITHING would have solved
problems internationally without having to depend so much on
international banking cartels being just so many busybodies with their
hard-earned loot?


Why did real Americans LEAVE the continent of Europe, as well as
imperialist England anyway?


Wasn't it a result of recognizing the fact that ourselves, as 'grains
of sand' were receiving an otherworldly promise of dominion over the
entire earth?


If this is true, then why fund ANY NATION, INCLUDING OUR OWN for that
matter, that magnifies itself as some extreme social political monster
that must impose its will over the entire earth?


American


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I doubt that.

I'll take any blockhead with just a whit of common sense and a few
dollars to spare, to at least get the ball rolling on a few new ideas
- perhaps something larger than HO scale would suffice - at least to
demonstrate the whole concept of electrogravitic propulsion.

If you wait too long than somebody - perhaps an Iraqi, or even Afghan,
Iranian or Venezuelan (oops) might supplant your idea - particularly
when there are just so many channels that it takes to get an idea
patented and/or approved by the ruling establishment.

Of course I'm exaggerating a bit on the ethnicity of those interested,
but it's just the politics of some very useful ideas that are left
hanging - one shouldn't have to always be looking behind themselves as
well as covering their tracks so much when the name of the inventor's
game should've been "yankee ingenuity". You can't tell me that the
world has been asleep for so long that only "exported" American
ingenuity makes the difference here.


American
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On Sep 9, 4:20*pm, American wrote:

I'll take any blockhead with just a whit of common sense and a few
dollars to spare, to at least get the ball rolling on a few new ideas
- perhaps something larger than HO scale would suffice - at least to
demonstrate the whole concept of electrogravitic propulsion.

If you wait too long than somebody - perhaps an Iraqi, or even Afghan,
Iranian or Venezuelan (oops) might supplant your idea - particularly
when there are just so many channels that it takes to get an idea
patented and/or approved by the ruling establishment.

Of course I'm exaggerating a bit on the ethnicity of those interested,
but it's just the politics of some very useful ideas that are left
hanging - one shouldn't have to always be looking behind themselves as
well as covering their tracks so much when the name of the inventor's
game should've *been "yankee ingenuity". You can't tell me that the
world has been asleep for so long that only "exported" American
ingenuity makes the difference here.

American


What has any of this got to do with the Sirius star/solar system?

"Sirius and us, Newtonian inseparable"

~ BG

 




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