what if (on colliding galaxies)

Painius We know Brad is a big bigot so bigotry he would miss most. He
must have a very sad upbringing to have so much hate. He must go to the
same church as Wahol. They are two birds of a feather (coo koo birds)
bert

BG Lots of total eclipses since that first experiment. Light curve was
small but measurable. Later measurements were more precise. GR has never
been proven wrong. bert

oc Feel frustrated again,for in your post you have photons slowing down
and then speeding up again. That in my thinking is just plain crazy
Give me a break from such nonsense. Light can curve but never change
speed. Photons do not bounce. Reality is we are thinking in the
Macro,and that thinking does not fit in the micro. We say micro quantum
realm is weird. Not so we are weird bert

On Sep 15, 4:10*am, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:

Feel frustrated again,for in your post you have photons slowing down
and then speeding up again. That in my thinking is just plain crazy
Give me a break from such nonsense.

Apologies, Bert. But the doctrine of universal c-invariance would
apply *only* if space is a universally-invariant 'Nothing'. But if
space is 'Something', a fluid, that's compressible and expandable,
then its *density* is gonna change with any compression or expansion.
And the speed of light is gonna change accordingly. In a gravity well,
space becomes thinner (less dense) with increasing gravity. That's
because it's accelerating into the gravitating body (say the Sun).
Think venturi. Accelerating flow = lower and lower density (and
pressure). That's called a density (and pressure) gradient.
And the speed of light, along with the clock rate,
changes across a density gradient (say from the outskirts of the Sun's
gravity well down to the Sun's surface). Yet at any point along the
gradient, locally, the speed of light is a constant 186,282 mps and
the clock rate is constant, locally. (This, BTW, is why we see
Mercury's perihelion 'ticking' at a different rate than it 'should'.
Mercury is much deeper in the Sun's gravity well than us 'out here' at
Earth).
Conversely, in deep lookback toward the BB, the
density (and pressure) of space is *increasing*. And it's increasing
exponentially the further back you look. This is the cosmological
density (and pressure) gradient. The speed of light (and the clock
rate) increase in step with it. Yet at any point along the gradient,
*locally*, c is a constant 186,282 mps and the clock rate is constant,
locally. The *volume* of space is decreasing with rising density/
pressure. Here at Earth, we see the artifacts of all this, and the
mainstream tries to interpret it based on the Void-Space Paradigm.
Thus it comes up with wildly skewed notions like "ever-accelerating
expansion", open-ended entropic heat death, ad infinitum.

On Sep 15, 3:48 am, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
Painius We know Brad is a big bigot so bigotry he would miss most. He
must have a very sad upbringing to have so much hate. He must go to the
same church as Wahol. They are two birds of a feather (coo koo birds)
bert

I'm a devout bigot against them bad guys that apparently you like no
matters what dastardly deeds they manage to accomplish, as long as
it's faith-based.

Are you now saying that Florida elections have not been so terribly
managed or rigged, and saying that your republican Mafia wouldn't
otherwise manage to skew the national voting process in favor of one
of their own kind?

Are you suggesting that Darla and her unlimited terrestrial cache of
fossil fuel isn't of a republican mindset?

Are you suggesting that mainstream religion has no strings attached to
the private parts of our government?

~ Brad Guth Brad_Guth Brad.Guth BradGuth BG

On Sep 15, 3:59 am, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
BG Lots of total eclipses since that first experiment. Light curve was
small but measurable. Later measurements were more precise. GR has never
been proven wrong. bert

So, you're saying that the given density of whatever a photon has to
migrate through makes no observable difference as to its path or
velocity.

Ever heard of a mirror, or the optical path substance of diamond?

Since photons can represent antimatter, and thus may also represent
mass and perhaps even offer a physical size, I see no problems in both
gravity and whatever medium causing a photon to skew off the otherwise
straight and narrow track.

~ BG

On Sep 15, 4:10 am, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:
oc Feel frustrated again,for in your post you have photons slowing down
and then speeding up again. That in my thinking is just plain crazy
Give me a break from such nonsense. Light can curve but never change
speed. Photons do not bounce. Reality is we are thinking in the
Macro,and that thinking does not fit in the micro. We say micro quantum
realm is weird. Not so we are weird bert

A photon can not survive a direct encounter with the core of an atom.

Secondary photons are the norm, and by now there's at least 1e100
photons per atom.

~ BG

On Sep 15, 5:53 am, oldcoot wrote:
On Sep 15, 4:10 am, (G=EMC^2 Glazier) wrote:

Feel frustrated again,for in your post you have photons slowing down
and then speeding up again. That in my thinking is just plain crazy
Give me a break from such nonsense.

Apologies, Bert. But the doctrine of universal c-invariance would
apply *only* if space is a universally-invariant 'Nothing'. But if
space is 'Something', a fluid, that's compressible and expandable,
then its *density* is gonna change with any compression or expansion.
And the speed of light is gonna change accordingly. In a gravity well,
space becomes thinner (less dense) with increasing gravity. That's
because it's accelerating into the gravitating body (say the Sun).
Think venturi. Accelerating flow = lower and lower density (and
pressure). That's called a density (and pressure) gradient.
And the speed of light, along with the clock rate,
changes across a density gradient (say from the outskirts of the Sun's
gravity well down to the Sun's surface). Yet at any point along the
gradient, locally, the speed of light is a constant 186,282 mps and
the clock rate is constant, locally. (This, BTW, is why we see
Mercury's perihelion 'ticking' at a different rate than it 'should'.
Mercury is much deeper in the Sun's gravity well than us 'out here' at
Earth).
Conversely, in deep lookback toward the BB, the
density (and pressure) of space is *increasing*. And it's increasing
exponentially the further back you look. This is the cosmological
density (and pressure) gradient. The speed of light (and the clock
rate) increase in step with it. Yet at any point along the gradient,
*locally*, c is a constant 186,282 mps and the clock rate is constant,
locally. The *volume* of space is decreasing with rising density/
pressure. Here at Earth, we see the artifacts of all this, and the
mainstream tries to interpret it based on the Void-Space Paradigm.
Thus it comes up with wildly skewed notions like "ever-accelerating
expansion", open-ended entropic heat death, ad infinitum.

If a BH was simply 100% diamond, could we see those photons as they're
passing through it at 40%'c'?

~ BG

oc Using my own concave & Convex theory there should be a spacetime
where convex space kicks in. If I was asked how far out is this reversal
point(start of accelerating outward space curve) I would say 5 billion
LY from Earth. That to me is the start of the redding easiest for Hubble
to see. Its just a guess. Call it a gut feeling. Of my greatest 5
theories my Concave & Convex theory has been very well received. They
seem to like it at the U of Moscow go figure bert

BG Darla space ship uses no fossil fuel. It in reality has no engine
room. I posted how it reaches great speeds. Darla energy is deep green.
She is not green. Her beauty glows. She is in the pink She has a great
body because on her space ship for exercise she swims,with her friend
Pere(who I hate) bert