Don't MAKE me come DOWN there!

"Art Deco" wrote in message
...
"Dr. Why", the current sockpuppet of the
fake alien, wrote:

"Charles D. Bohne" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 10:46:14 GMT, "Dr. Why"

wrote:

Hi Doc Yubiwan,

nice to have you back! Hope you (all of you) had a good trip!?

Yes, certainly and thank you Charles.
A Good trip indeed!


Hello again, Charles, and how have you been?

Don't ask my doctors, I myself pretend to feel fine :-)

I sincerely hope all is well, and that you continue to feel better and
better!


Not sure what you're disputing here.

With all that dysfunctional quotings it's not very easy to catch up -
even for me, who followed the discussions all the time, it would be
almost impossible to file thru all postings and get a complete picture.

(BTW, Lomie is preparing for a mission outside the galaxy with
Silouen.)

S/he told us already, thanks.

You can't be questioning the 155,012 figure, because it's too well
known.

I always question "well known figures", they are mostly wrong.

Not this one.
Looks like Lomie got that particular gem from an American census website.

http://www.census.gov/cgi-bin/ipc/pcwe

It's not precise, though fairly accurate.


...[those] ... suicide cases would do us a great favor.

Ah, so it is your contention that increasing this figure, the death
rate,
is as good as decreasing the birth rate in order to attain
"balance"?
I'm only asking because I happen to agree with you if this is the
case.
Unfortunately, among my kind, I am in the minority on this issue.

We must have a balanced population, yes.
Even one billion inhabitants are too many on this world, especially if
we want all of them to have a decent standard of living.
(But I preferred a voluntary decrease in our birthrates ...
unfortunately the ruling greed^powers will not allow for the necessary
new distribution of "money").

So now that you have a "real perspective", what will you do with
it?

Now as I said before, one word describes why at least 12% will
commit
some form of human biocide.

Great: Show up!

Yes, I agree!
Let's make contact, get the bad parts over with, and get on with
exploration.
Again, a minority stance, but in my opinion a good and valid one.

Logic clearly dictates .. :-
Yes, I am on your side!

This must be part of our "mirror" status.
Many people will think they see themselves when they look at us.
This can work both for and against you.
Try walking THROUGH the looking glass, Charles.

I am ready to do that.

There will always be enough kookyness to keep the Art Decos of the
world
in
business.

You must understand that the apparent "Aufklärung" {clearing-up} is not
a honest one and never aims at educating people, the goal of AUK people
is to stop people from thinking and to keep them in the dark in order
to
make them better exploitable for the top ruling class.

Yet, I do agree with your "new better mankind" assessment.
The problem here stems moreso from the fact that every human we've
contacted
"closely", or in other words in a personal way which affords them
undisputable evidence of our existence, has taken a different stance.
Thus far, the vast majority of close contacts feel that the price is
still
too high.

This is proof that you contacted the wrong people.


They'll kill themselves, their families and friends, their bosses
and
employees, their cats and dogs.

Now that you mention the animals, you have my attention .. but
then --
they kill millions of animals for lesser reasons.

Interesting, what gets your attention, Charles.
Why are you more attentive to lower, less sentient forms.
Rooting for the underdogs? G

Unlike you, I do not discriminate.

Well forgive me, Charles, but apparently you Do discriminate.
If your attention is had by animals over humans, that is.

There is only one eternal soul and
it makes no difference what form or body it inhabits at a certain time
or place in this universe.

It's time for the big change!

I agree.
And this issue is highly controversial with us.

Well - I am ready to defend that view in front of your "top leaders".

{12% "suicides}
This 12% figure also represents the murder victims.
Not sure Lomie made that clear.

Well I would not call "murder" suicide .. :-)

You're absolutely right, of course.
We wouldn't either, however we used to call it that at one time.
The PSR, which stands for the human Potential Suicide Rate, is a
throwback
term.
It's very dated because back before we began to study humans as
individuals,
back when our human study focused at only the species level, a human
killing
another human was a factor in "species suicide".
Of course, we now see the importance in making the distinction, but up to
now we saw no need to alter the term, PSR.

So from now on we shall refer to the rate of potential human biocide as
the
PBR.
Thank you so much for your wise input.
Inaccuracy is the mother of confusion.

Ok, I see we must make sure that all people may have a choice
of their own ... Again, that's a question of proper information and
a retrenchment of the top villains.


This planet is ready to face the truth.

Again, I agree.
Too bad you and I aren't better represented in the bargaining. G

We are not? So why NOT? What make them decision-makers, TPTB, over us?

C.

They are TPTB over the entire galaxy is I suppose what does so.
And they have the interests of the galaxy to look after.
Human beings are believed to possess a mighty potential for many good
things.
Even the loss of the minimum 12% is totally unacceptable to some in terms
of
loss to this potential.
From the human perspective, how many Newtons or Einsteins, Sagans or
Hawkings might be in that 12%?
Such a loss might very well cripple the power of humans to be one of the
brighter lamps for our galaxy.

I personally feel it's time to take our chances with the 88%!
Or even a lower percentage if necessary.

The guidelines for this prestigious award state:

"For those logically consistent persons who leave Usenet for ever,
rather more often than the Cabal's rules require. It isn't necessary to
leave Usenet for ever three times in a single week to win this award,
but it helps. Operatic flouncing of other kinds, including unprovoked
meltdowns and ridiculous ranting may also lead to a nomination for this
award. Named after Drama Empress Tony Sidaway."

The Darla socks make a big production of "leaving usenet", allegedly to
float about in intergalactic space, yet another sockpuppet always
returning to this small corner of the Milky Way for the sole purpose of
performing in front of the saucerheads on usenet. When this behaviour
is pointed out, a big production always results with more saucerhead
gaga of "first official contact", "potential suicide rate", and "we
want you to be skeptical."

I fully realize this entity might be a troll, but he/she/it has not, to
my knowledge, declared victory in over three years of stroking the
saucerheads.

Therefore I nominate Darla Pere and her/his/its sockpuppets for the
Tony Sidaway Drama Queen Award.

Any seconds?

I definitely second, and hope that she's using a rubber glove with all this
stroking !

HJ









Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler
Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads in alt.astronomy
Official Agent of Deception
Co-Winner, alt.(f)lame Worst Flame War, December 2005

"Causation of gravity is missing frame field always attempting
renormalization back to base memory of equalized uniform momentum."
-- nightbat the saucerhead-in-chief

"Have patience. First I shall deal with the State of Oregon
and County of Josephine, Then the AFAB, government/media
disinformation Agents with whom you conspire to libel me and my
family. Your time will come."
-- Raymond Ronald Karczewski©, usenet "christ"

"Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim, and rather ironic, coming
from
someone who obviously has no understanding of what a signature is. Tell
me,
Haslam, do you sign your checks as 'Can't you show a little restraint?'"
-- David Tholen, Clueless Newbie of the Month, February 2003

"Dr. Why", the current sockpuppet of the
fake alien, wrote:

"Daedalus" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 18:32:18 GMT, "Lomie"
, wrote:

"Kali" wrote in message
.. .
In article sudHf.11919$id5.6358@bgtnsc04-
news.ops.worldnet.att.net, posted Sat, 11 Feb 2006 04:12:08
GMT, Lomie says...

"Charles D. Bohne" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 10:08:23 GMT, "Lomie"

wrote:

Hello Charles and Heather!

Kiyo was born in Okinawa, Japan, on November 22, 1921.
We rescued her on Dec. 7, 1941, just a few days following her 20th
birthday.
Her plane had been shot down by a new American battleship weapon.
We wanted to study the damage, so we rescued the plane.
We had to reassemble Kiyo and revive her.
She came through it rather nicely, I think.

While her calendar age is almost 85 years, her mental age is nearly
200
years, and her physical age is presently about 53 years.
She chose not to age her body there for awhile, and then after
reading
about
the sean aging rituals, she asked to participate.
Darla, thinking it was just a little bit unusual, okayed it
anyways.
Not long after this, Kiyo became the H H I C of our crew.
Then she and Ollie became a "thing", and now she's pregnant with
triplets
(girls girls girls hee hee ).

Despite her hefty IQ, Kiyo does get a little flustered by some of
the
modern
methods humans have devised to deal with their tremendous levels of
fear,

Like making up stories about aliens and referring to herself in
the third person?

such as in the coffeeboi posts this thread.
Couldn't you just FEEL the sweat oozing off the foreheads of Brucie
and
K-man as they typed those words of yawning?
So wonderfully true to their primate heritage!

Thank you!

Lomie

I would have loved to hear that her biological age had stopped at 25
:-)
How would anyone (especially any female one) like to partake in an
"aging program"?

Just wondering...
C.

Okay, after we put Kiyo back together (I did most of it because I was
freshly studying the technique. It was sort of a "test" for me.),
Darla
explained to her that we could help her stop aging if she wanted.
Kiyo chose to stop aging, but then a few years later she began to
study
us
with a passion.
When she came across the sean aging rites, she seemed to be impressed
with
the logic behind them.
So she asked to participate, and she's been aging ever since.

Now, when she gets a little older (she is almost to the human
extraction
period) she will reverse the process and her body will, uhm, age
negatively?

Okie dokie.

I'm not sure what to call it because there is no human word to cover
it,
because it never happens on your planet.

Waitasec, I just found it in one of your books.
You have the mental equivalent you call "age regression".
Well, this would be a physical age regression.

Why not?

So anyways, when her body un-ages back to whatever age she decides to
stabilize at, that age is where she'll stay until the next aging rite.

So she partook in the aging program because she wanted to enjoy the
benefits
of aging MENTALLY.
The mental age stays with you even after your body un-ages back to a
favored
physical age.
And of course there are several other benefits that we'll tell
everyone
about shortly following FOC.

Lomie

Aw, don't hold back *now*... have another of whatever it is, and
post some more.

Kali
--
"We found a great number of books...and since they contained
nothing but superstitions and falsehoods of the Devil we burned
them all." - Bishop Diego De Landa, who burned priceless books
of Mayan history and science

Okay, Kali, if you promise not to woooooosh me, too. G

By the way, did I mention that I'm not really an alien?
Silouen and I were both born on Earth.

Did you grow up in the same ward?

Note: no response.


And anyways, another short-term benefit begins to manifest itself either
the
second or third time you go through the aging rite.
Each time you regress physically, your skin thickens back to normal for
the
age you go back to.
And each time, the skin actually thickens a teeny bit more, so after the
third or fourth ritual experience, your skin has thickened to where it is
So
much harder to pierce or bruise you.

Can you do the same skin thickening process to Bohner so he doesn't
get so hysterical and whiny when people make fun of him?

Note: no response.

Yet it is hardly noticeable in terms of any burdening difference from
normal.

One long-term advantage we've found is that while the mental age
saturates
(ceases to increase) after a few million years, it does undergo a series
of
"jumps" after that where it increases just a little every few times you
practice the ritual.
The main reason weuns the seans practice this ritual is to remind us of
all
the reasons we do not like to age physically.
Well, at least that's My main reason.
Others have their own reasons, I suppose.

Just between you and me, we're all hoping that by participating in our
aging
ritual, Kiyo will feel better about both herself and her presence here
with
us.
I love her very much, as she's like a second Mom to me, so I'm hoping
she's
able to go on fighting the strong tendency to want to die.
But life doesn't really get that much easier.

Lomie


Lemme ask you something, has any real live person ever bought a
scintilla of this hokum you're spewing?

Jade



No, of course not, Jade.
I certainly wouldn't.
We have to supply our closer human contacts with much harder evidence than
just this hokum.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Who are your "closer human contacts", institutionalized people who hear
voices?

Yubiwan



--
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler
Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads in alt.astronomy
Official Agent of Deception
Co-Winner, alt.(f)lame Worst Flame War, December 2005

"Causation of gravity is missing frame field always attempting
renormalization back to base memory of equalized uniform momentum."
-- nightbat the saucerhead-in-chief

"Have patience. First I shall deal with the State of Oregon
and County of Josephine, Then the AFAB, government/media
disinformation Agents with whom you conspire to libel me and my
family. Your time will come."
-- Raymond Ronald Karczewski©, usenet "christ"

"Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim, and rather ironic, coming from
someone who obviously has no understanding of what a signature is. Tell me,
Haslam, do you sign your checks as 'Can't you show a little restraint?'"
-- David Tholen, Clueless Newbie of the Month, February 2003

Lamie, the current sockpuppet of the fake
alien, wrote:

(superfluous froups snecked)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I wonder where the fake alien learned this?

[restored]

"Greysky" wrote in message
et...

"Lomie" wrote in message
...
"Charles D. Bohne" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 05:46:08 GMT, "Lomie"
wrote:

So Kali, if it were you and you alone who must make the decision,
would
you
opt for official contact (fully aware that at least 12% of humanity
would
be
victim to one form of biocide or another)?

I still see no prove for your figures... why should 780 Million people
commit suicide just from learning that they are not alone in the
universe?

On the other hand.. we have wars and violence, murder and homicide
by the millions every day. Did you consider how THAT figure would drop
if man had a real perspective?

C.

Actually, the combined figures for every kind of death in the world is
presently 155,012 per day, Charles.

And before you hail us in with open arms to decrease this figure, you
might
wanna think about how you'll handle the daily global birth rate of
358,522.
Even with over 150,000 daily deaths, this still represents an increase
of
nearly 75 million babes each year.
Earth's human population is expected to top 6½ billion people toward the
end
of this month.

So now that you have a "real perspective", what will you do with it?

Now as I said before, one word describes why at least 12% will commit
some
form of human biocide.

F E A R

First Encounter Assult Recon - too good a game!


If you can't see it, you can't see it.

But rest assured, when Earth unifies with the rest of life in the
universe,
many people just won't know how to deal with it.
They'll kill themselves, their families and friends, their bosses and
employees, their cats and dogs.
And they will justify what they do by thinking of it as the lesser of
two
evils.
There can be no containment, as it will all happen practically in the
blink
of an eye.

And, for the most part, the only ones who Won't commit murder/suicide
are
the ones who are too afraid to.

Don't know about that Lomie. I know I wont be trying to kill myself. Now,
maybe some of my fellow humans will bump me off before they go out
themselves, but it'll only be because I didn't duck fast enough. There are
real problems that need to be solved, and mysteries to uncover (like where
*do* all those socks and underware missing from the laundry really go?)
that I'll simply be too buisy to think about suicide for a few thousand
centuries. I can understand why you wish to converse with the Art Deco
personality now, pre contact. I imagine that type human will be almost
extinct after you initiate FOC. Best to study a dying species before the
end...

Actually Greysky, you may find it hard to believe, but Darla some time ago
estimated Artie, along with yourself, the nightbat, D-A, and a few others

*ding*

here as being of "Sagan ilk".
Or "saganesque" as she often says.

It's a long story, but you see, Carl Sagan was the most fearless astronomer
to ever live on Earth.
And believe me, there have been some REALLY fearless astronomers in the
past.
Carl Sagan somehow knew about us even before we contacted him.
Don't ask me how, even Darla doesn't know how, but he knew!
And when we contacted him, instead of cringing in fear as most humans would
do, Sagan strode right up to me.
YES! right up to me! and he said, "You're the youngest, aren't you? I can
tell by your eyes."
By my eyes! just by looking me in the eyes he could tell!

Taking a page from the Richard CEEEEE Hoaxland operations manual.

So anyways, when we began to talk about the possibility of official contact
and the PSR, Sagan indicated that he had already surmised what would happen.
He had long been troubled because he knew we were here, and he knew what
would happen if we went global.
Sagan agreed that people just weren't yet ready for us, and that contact
must wait a while longer.

Greysky, I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you.
All I know is that if we had a foolproof way of being able to tell who would
snap and who wouldn't, we would be able to contain the first contact biocide
rate to a whole lot better than 12%.
But our long experience shows that there is no known way for us to contain
this.
And the only ones who CAN contain it are the indigenous peoples themselves.
They help themselves by being alert and fearless, "ducking" as you said.
But even with all this, the best we can hope for is still high, the 12%
figure.

So anyways, on a happier note, Mom and Dad are returning from Virgo Central!
Also, Dr. Yubiwan is back, and Silouen has noted a significant change in the
H-substance anomaly at the center of our Local Group.
So I have a mission!
I get to go with Sil and study the gravity thingie!
Aarrrrrggghhhhhh !!!
I FINALLY get to get out of this galaxy!

I LOVE you guys, ALL of you!
Gotta prepare, so I'll see you soon.

To be replaced by the next sockpuppet, center stage.

xoxoxoxoxoxoxox
Lomie




--
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler
Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads in alt.astronomy
Official Agent of Deception
Co-Winner, alt.(f)lame Worst Flame War, December 2005

"Causation of gravity is missing frame field always attempting
renormalization back to base memory of equalized uniform momentum."
-- nightbat the saucerhead-in-chief

"Have patience. First I shall deal with the State of Oregon
and County of Josephine, Then the AFAB, government/media
disinformation Agents with whom you conspire to libel me and my
family. Your time will come."
-- Raymond Ronald Karczewski©, usenet "christ"

"Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim, and rather ironic, coming from
someone who obviously has no understanding of what a signature is. Tell me,
Haslam, do you sign your checks as 'Can't you show a little restraint?'"
-- David Tholen, Clueless Newbie of the Month, February 2003

Greysky wrote:

Well Kid-O, Go on and have some fun studying that silly putty substance
as for Saganesque, well that's a pretty heavy compliment. Sagan tried to
accomplish a great many things before he died, now that I know he knew about
you guys, it all makes sense. There is still much work to be done - perhaps
yourselves and a few of us 'Saganesque' types can meet up before FOC with
the greater mass of humanity to figure out some of this stuff? At any rate,
I see the Good Dr. Y. is already posting, and am happy to hear both Darla
and Pere will once again be in our locality - I look forward to hearing all
the exciting details of the past many months. OK, I know you gotta go and
get ready for your misson, so see you on th flip side:-)

Greysky

When does the Good Ship Darla-Pop arrive to cart off all the
saucerheads?

--
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler
Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads in alt.astronomy
Official Agent of Deception
Co-Winner, alt.(f)lame Worst Flame War, December 2005

"Causation of gravity is missing frame field always attempting
renormalization back to base memory of equalized uniform momentum."
-- nightbat the saucerhead-in-chief

"Have patience. First I shall deal with the State of Oregon
and County of Josephine, Then the AFAB, government/media
disinformation Agents with whom you conspire to libel me and my
family. Your time will come."
-- Raymond Ronald Karczewski©, usenet "christ"

"Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim, and rather ironic, coming from
someone who obviously has no understanding of what a signature is. Tell me,
Haslam, do you sign your checks as 'Can't you show a little restraint?'"
-- David Tholen, Clueless Newbie of the Month, February 2003

Charles D. Bohne wrote:

On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 08:41:22 GMT, "Lomie"
wrote:

Actually Greysky, you may find it hard to believe, but Darla some time ago
estimated Artie, along with yourself, the nightbat, D-A, and a few others
here as being of "Sagan ilk".
Or "saganesque" as she often says.

Actually Lomie, YOU did not answer my objections to your 12% figure!
Sagan was a "debunker".

Oh dear! You mean he didn't buy into saucerhead gaga? Run away!

Of course, the ruling class has very good reasons to make humans on this
planet believe that they are alone in the whole universe.

Carl Sagan somehow knew about us even before we contacted him.

The powers behind, those real rulers in the dark, knew it all the time.
They abuse those technologies to secure their supremacy.

Don't ask me how, even Darla doesn't know how, but he knew!
And when we contacted him, instead of cringing in fear as most humans would
do, Sagan strode right up to me.

You met him?

YES! right up to me! and he said, "You're the youngest, aren't you? I can
tell by your eyes."
By my eyes! just by looking me in the eyes he could tell!

Big deal, everyone could.

So anyways, when we began to talk about the possibility of official contact
and the PSR, Sagan indicated that he had already surmised what would happen.
He had long been troubled because he knew we were here, and he knew what
would happen if we went global.

Yes, that small group of predators would lose their grip.

Sagan agreed that people just weren't yet ready for us, and that contact
must wait a while longer.

What a big lie!

Ko0kfite!!


Greysky, I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with you.
All I know is that if we had a foolproof way of being able to tell who would
snap and who wouldn't, we would be able to contain the first contact biocide
rate to a whole lot better than 12%.
But our long experience shows that there is no known way for us to contain
this.

Just take the top 200 into custody...

And the only ones who CAN contain it are the indigenous peoples themselves.
They help themselves by being alert and fearless, "ducking" as you said.
But even with all this, the best we can hope for is still high, the 12%
figure.

Lie!

So anyways, on a happier note, Mom and Dad are returning from Virgo Central!
Also, Dr. Yubiwan is back, and Silouen has noted a significant change in the
H-substance anomaly at the center of our Local Group.
So I have a mission!

Good for you.

I get to go with Sil and study the gravity thingie!
Aarrrrrggghhhhhh !!!
I FINALLY get to get out of this galaxy!

Most of us cannot even get out of their countries.

I LOVE you guys, ALL of you!
Gotta prepare, so I'll see you soon.

xoxoxoxoxoxoxox
Lomie
Let's see what Darla will tell us ...
C.

You won't have to wait long, he/she/it is always center stage...

--
Official Associate AFA-B Vote Rustler
Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads in alt.astronomy
Official Agent of Deception
Co-Winner, alt.(f)lame Worst Flame War, December 2005

"Causation of gravity is missing frame field always attempting
renormalization back to base memory of equalized uniform momentum."
-- nightbat the saucerhead-in-chief

"Have patience. First I shall deal with the State of Oregon
and County of Josephine, Then the AFAB, government/media
disinformation Agents with whom you conspire to libel me and my
family. Your time will come."
-- Raymond Ronald Karczewski©, usenet "christ"

"Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim, and rather ironic, coming from
someone who obviously has no understanding of what a signature is. Tell me,
Haslam, do you sign your checks as 'Can't you show a little restraint?'"
-- David Tholen, Clueless Newbie of the Month, February 2003

"Art Deco" wrote in message
...
"Dr. Why", the current sockpuppet of the
fake alien, wrote:

"Kali" wrote in message
.. .
In article , posted Sun,
12 Feb 2006 19:53:28 -0700, Art Deco says...

Kali wrote:

In article , posted Sun,
12 Feb 2006 16:10:15 -0700, Art Deco says...

Lamie, the current sockpuppet of the
fake
alien, wrote:

[...]

PS: As I'm sure you know by now, I was born on Earth, so I'm not an
alien.
I'm as indigenous to this planet as you are, sweet human.
But if calling me an alien floats your boat, I'm sure I can
continue
the role.

Your other sockpuppets claim to be millions of years old, so this
little hedge is meaningless.

PPS: Things go better with koak! hee hee

Another kooksign.

On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 10:08:23 GMT, "Lomie"
wrote:
Kiyo was born in Okinawa, Japan, on November 22, 1921...
and now she's pregnant with triplets (girls girls girls
hee hee ).


I believe the Sil and Darla socks fall into the gazillions old claim
bucket.

Unbelievable!1!! Really.

Kali

We've made many claims, few of which are believable without better
evidence.
Your own claim above is, of course, Not unbelievable.
Unfortunately, this believability issue seems to be important to a lot of
people.
Don't take this wrong, dearest Kali, but doesn't this all stem from fear?

Still mistaking laughter for fear, fake alien?

No, I'm not.


People appear to be as afraid to believe in advanced aliens as they are
afraid Not to believe in a deity.
Why do you suppose this is?

The question is silly because it assumes a false premise.

Is it?

Yubiwan

"Kali" wrote in message
...
In article wsCIf.26702$id5.21579@bgtnsc04-
news.ops.worldnet.att.net, posted Wed, 15 Feb 2006 09:25:48
GMT, Dr. Why says...

"Kali" wrote in message
.. .
In article , posted Sun,
12 Feb 2006 19:53:28 -0700, Art Deco says...

Kali wrote:

In article , posted Sun,
12 Feb 2006 16:10:15 -0700, Art Deco says...

Lamie, the current sockpuppet of the
fake
alien, wrote:

[...]

PS: As I'm sure you know by now, I was born on Earth, so I'm not an
alien.
I'm as indigenous to this planet as you are, sweet human.
But if calling me an alien floats your boat, I'm sure I can
continue
the role.

Your other sockpuppets claim to be millions of years old, so this
little hedge is meaningless.

PPS: Things go better with koak! hee hee

Another kooksign.

On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 10:08:23 GMT, "Lomie"
wrote:
Kiyo was born in Okinawa, Japan, on November 22, 1921...
and now she's pregnant with triplets (girls girls girls
hee hee ).


I believe the Sil and Darla socks fall into the gazillions old claim
bucket.

Unbelievable!1!! Really.

Kali

We've made many claims, few of which are believable without better
evidence.
Your own claim above is, of course, Not unbelievable.

Hmm. I don't see where I've made a claim. Attribution problem,
perhaps.

Unfortunately, this believability issue seems to be important to a lot of
people.
Don't take this wrong, dearest Kali, but doesn't this all stem from fear?

Skepticism is not about fear, imo. It is about reality
monitoring. It is a healthy way to approach claims that
contradict what we know about the world. I would argue instead
that fear ("of the unknown") is more likely to motivate people
to accept claims on faith.

People appear to be as afraid to believe in advanced aliens as they are
afraid Not to believe in a deity.
Why do you suppose this is?

For the religious person, uncertainty and doubt - the opposite
of faith - can create a conflict. This would be true for someone
who accepts on faith that there are aliens living on earth, or
coming to visit. They would, like the religious person facing
uncertainty and doubt, be faced with an uncomfortable conflict
to resolve. To lose a dearly held belief, especially one that
provides hope and inspiration, is painful. This is why people
tend to find ways to strengthen their belief when they are in
doubt. Some may be afraid there will be nothing else to replace
it when they let it go.

Yubiwan

Kali
--
"We found a great number of books...and since they contained
nothing but superstitions and falsehoods of the Devil we burned
them all." - Bishop Diego De Landa, who burned priceless books
of Mayan history and science

Thank you, Kali.
IAWTP

Yubiwan

"Art Deco" wrote in message
...
"Dr. Why", the current sockpuppet of the
fake alien, wrote:

"Kali" wrote in message
.. .
In article 6BJHf.16715$id5.4809@bgtnsc04-
news.ops.worldnet.att.net, posted Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:43:46
GMT, Lomie says...

"Kali" wrote in message
...


[...]

Biology as an undergrad, neuroscience as a doctoral student.

Neuroscience?
Good, maybe you can help me with something.
But I have to get back to work now, so I'll return later.

Thank you, Kali, for your civility And your skepticism!

Lomie



So anyways, I also am a student of neuroscience, Kali.

Great!

As far as I'm concerned, for the brain to study itself takes a most
deep
level of fearlessness and explorative savvy!

I see it as the ultimate "search for self".

Some people have said that the human brain is the most beautiful and
complicated organization of matter in the universe.
And other words of English along these lines:

"I, George Bush, President of the United States of America, do hereby
proclaim the decade beginning January 1, 1990, as the Decade of the
Brain. I
call upon all public officials and the people of the United States to
observe that decade with appropriate programs, ceremonies, and
activities."
George Bush (from Presidential Proclamation 6158, July 17,
1990)

"As we begin the 21st century, the Hubble space telescope is providing
us
with information about as yet uncharted regions of the universe and
the
promise that we may learn something about the origin of the cosmos.
This
same spirit of adventure is also being directed to the most complex
structure that exists in the universe - the human brain."
Floyd E. Bloom (in Fundamental Neuroscience edited by
L.R. Squire et al., 2003)

"In proportion to our body mass, our brain is three times as large as
that
of our nearest relatives. This huge organ is dangerous and painful to
give
birth to, expensive to build and, in a resting human, uses about 20
per
cent
of the body's energy even though it is just 2 per cent of the body's
weight.
There must be some reason for all this evolutionary expense."
Susan Blakemore (from "Meme, Myself, I", New Scientist,
March 13, 1999)

So has any knowledge come from this 16 year thrust, beginning in 1990,
to
shed light on the reason for all that evolutionary expense?

Definitely, but you know this already, as a student of
neuroscience, right?

And what, in your opinion, is the most important advance to blossom
during
this period in the burgeoning discipline of neuroscience?

Research on LTP. You?

Hello again, Kali, and a "Hi" also from Lomie.
She agrees, with emphasis upon the LTP correlations with endorphin
production.
Special interest could be focused on the relationships of LTP and LTD
with
physical aging processes.

Lomie is preparing to leave for a mission, so you have me at your
service.
My name is Yubiwan, and I am the resident "shrink" as some would say.

It's very nice to meet you, and please don't let gravity hold you down
too
much.

Yubiwan

So which sockpuppet come out next, fake alien?

I'm not sure at this point, Art.
I AM certain that you'll be one of the first to know. G

Yubiwan

"Dr. Why", the current sockpuppet of the
fake alien, wrote:

"Art Deco" wrote in message
...
"Dr. Why", the current sockpuppet of the
fake alien, wrote:

"Kali" wrote in message
.. .
In article , posted Sun,
12 Feb 2006 19:53:28 -0700, Art Deco says...

Kali wrote:

In article , posted Sun,
12 Feb 2006 16:10:15 -0700, Art Deco says...

Lamie, the current sockpuppet of the
fake
alien, wrote:

[...]

PS: As I'm sure you know by now, I was born on Earth, so I'm not an
alien.
I'm as indigenous to this planet as you are, sweet human.
But if calling me an alien floats your boat, I'm sure I can
continue
the role.

Your other sockpuppets claim to be millions of years old, so this
little hedge is meaningless.

PPS: Things go better with koak! hee hee

Another kooksign.

On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 10:08:23 GMT, "Lomie"
wrote:
Kiyo was born in Okinawa, Japan, on November 22, 1921...
and now she's pregnant with triplets (girls girls girls
hee hee ).


I believe the Sil and Darla socks fall into the gazillions old claim
bucket.

Unbelievable!1!! Really.

Kali

We've made many claims, few of which are believable without better
evidence.
Your own claim above is, of course, Not unbelievable.
Unfortunately, this believability issue seems to be important to a lot of
people.
Don't take this wrong, dearest Kali, but doesn't this all stem from fear?

Still mistaking laughter for fear, fake alien?

No, I'm not.

So what is it that you allege I'm afraid of, fake alien?


People appear to be as afraid to believe in advanced aliens as they are
afraid Not to believe in a deity.
Why do you suppose this is?

The question is silly because it assumes a false premise.

Is it?

Yup.

Yubiwan



--
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Official Overseer of Kooks and Saucerheads in alt.astronomy
Official Agent of Deception
Co-Winner, alt.(f)lame Worst Flame War, December 2005

"Causation of gravity is missing frame field always attempting
renormalization back to base memory of equalized uniform momentum."
-- nightbat the saucerhead-in-chief

"Have patience. First I shall deal with the State of Oregon
and County of Josephine, Then the AFAB, government/media
disinformation Agents with whom you conspire to libel me and my
family. Your time will come."
-- Raymond Ronald Karczewski©, usenet "christ"

"Classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim, and rather ironic, coming from
someone who obviously has no understanding of what a signature is. Tell me,
Haslam, do you sign your checks as 'Can't you show a little restraint?'"
-- David Tholen, Clueless Newbie of the Month, February 2003

"Art Deco" wrote in message
...
"Dr. Why", the current sockpuppet of the
fake alien, wrote:

"Daedalus" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 18:32:18 GMT, "Lomie"
, wrote:

"Kali" wrote in message
.. .
In article sudHf.11919$id5.6358@bgtnsc04-
news.ops.worldnet.att.net, posted Sat, 11 Feb 2006 04:12:08
GMT, Lomie says...

"Charles D. Bohne" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 09 Feb 2006 10:08:23 GMT, "Lomie"

wrote:

Hello Charles and Heather!

Kiyo was born in Okinawa, Japan, on November 22, 1921.
We rescued her on Dec. 7, 1941, just a few days following her
20th
birthday.
Her plane had been shot down by a new American battleship
weapon.
We wanted to study the damage, so we rescued the plane.
We had to reassemble Kiyo and revive her.
She came through it rather nicely, I think.

While her calendar age is almost 85 years, her mental age is
nearly
200
years, and her physical age is presently about 53 years.
She chose not to age her body there for awhile, and then after
reading
about
the sean aging rituals, she asked to participate.
Darla, thinking it was just a little bit unusual, okayed it
anyways.
Not long after this, Kiyo became the H H I C of our crew.
Then she and Ollie became a "thing", and now she's pregnant with
triplets
(girls girls girls hee hee ).

Despite her hefty IQ, Kiyo does get a little flustered by some
of
the
modern
methods humans have devised to deal with their tremendous levels
of
fear,

Like making up stories about aliens and referring to herself in
the third person?

such as in the coffeeboi posts this thread.
Couldn't you just FEEL the sweat oozing off the foreheads of
Brucie
and
K-man as they typed those words of yawning?
So wonderfully true to their primate heritage!

Thank you!

Lomie

I would have loved to hear that her biological age had stopped at
25
:-)
How would anyone (especially any female one) like to partake in
an
"aging program"?

Just wondering...
C.

Okay, after we put Kiyo back together (I did most of it because I
was
freshly studying the technique. It was sort of a "test" for me.),
Darla
explained to her that we could help her stop aging if she wanted.
Kiyo chose to stop aging, but then a few years later she began to
study
us
with a passion.
When she came across the sean aging rites, she seemed to be
impressed
with
the logic behind them.
So she asked to participate, and she's been aging ever since.

Now, when she gets a little older (she is almost to the human
extraction
period) she will reverse the process and her body will, uhm, age
negatively?

Okie dokie.

I'm not sure what to call it because there is no human word to
cover
it,
because it never happens on your planet.

Waitasec, I just found it in one of your books.
You have the mental equivalent you call "age regression".
Well, this would be a physical age regression.

Why not?

So anyways, when her body un-ages back to whatever age she decides
to
stabilize at, that age is where she'll stay until the next aging
rite.

So she partook in the aging program because she wanted to enjoy the
benefits
of aging MENTALLY.
The mental age stays with you even after your body un-ages back to
a
favored
physical age.
And of course there are several other benefits that we'll tell
everyone
about shortly following FOC.

Lomie

Aw, don't hold back *now*... have another of whatever it is, and
post some more.

Kali
--
"We found a great number of books...and since they contained
nothing but superstitions and falsehoods of the Devil we burned
them all." - Bishop Diego De Landa, who burned priceless books
of Mayan history and science

Okay, Kali, if you promise not to woooooosh me, too. G

By the way, did I mention that I'm not really an alien?
Silouen and I were both born on Earth.

Did you grow up in the same ward?

Note: no response.


And anyways, another short-term benefit begins to manifest itself
either
the
second or third time you go through the aging rite.
Each time you regress physically, your skin thickens back to normal
for
the
age you go back to.
And each time, the skin actually thickens a teeny bit more, so after
the
third or fourth ritual experience, your skin has thickened to where it
is
So
much harder to pierce or bruise you.

Can you do the same skin thickening process to Bohner so he doesn't
get so hysterical and whiny when people make fun of him?

Note: no response.

Yet it is hardly noticeable in terms of any burdening difference from
normal.

One long-term advantage we've found is that while the mental age
saturates
(ceases to increase) after a few million years, it does undergo a
series
of
"jumps" after that where it increases just a little every few times
you
practice the ritual.
The main reason weuns the seans practice this ritual is to remind us
of
all
the reasons we do not like to age physically.
Well, at least that's My main reason.
Others have their own reasons, I suppose.

Just between you and me, we're all hoping that by participating in our
aging
ritual, Kiyo will feel better about both herself and her presence here
with
us.
I love her very much, as she's like a second Mom to me, so I'm hoping
she's
able to go on fighting the strong tendency to want to die.
But life doesn't really get that much easier.

Lomie


Lemme ask you something, has any real live person ever bought a
scintilla of this hokum you're spewing?

Jade



No, of course not, Jade.
I certainly wouldn't.
We have to supply our closer human contacts with much harder evidence
than
just this hokum.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

Who are your "closer human contacts", institutionalized people who hear
voices?

Well, we Have been known to have this effect on people, yes.

But from time to time we approach certain persons in what we call a "close
contact".
It would be a person whom we have been observing closely and whom we trust.
We've made quite a few close contacts over the years.

Yubiwan