NASA Will Explore F-1 Upgrade For Heavy Lifter

On Jul 30, 5:42*pm, me wrote:
On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 17:03:03 -0400, Jeff Findley

wrote:
From what I've read, JSC is home to the only Saturn V on display made up
of all "flight worthy" stages. *KSC has a "flight worthy" second and
third stage. *Michoud has the (last built) "flight worthy" first stage..
The Saturn V on display at MSFC consists of all test stages.

http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2127/1

so there were 2 flight worth stacks left outside to rot.....

sad ending of a great launcher

"Fred J. McCall" wrote in message
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Jeff Findley wrote:


My original point was, not everything you see on display is "flight
worthy". Because of this, I have a feeling that Bob might be over
estimating how many "flight worthy" Saturn V launch vehicles existed
after the last Saturn V flew.


I'm sure he is. He over estimates everything else, after all.

The number, as I recall it, was 'two'.


Actually easy enough to figure out how many are left. ;-)

15 were ordered. 13 flown.

I think even Bob can do that math.

Now, I'll admit to curiosity as to how the individual pieces ended up where
they did. It does seem a bit arbitrary. :-)



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On Jul 31, 10:08*am, "Greg \(Strider\) Moore"
wrote:
"Fred J. McCall" *wrote in messagenews:5b9f18pu8ap1sok867b920jqmnucdl1gn9@4ax .com...



Jeff Findley wrote:

My original point was, not everything you see on display is "flight
worthy". *Because of this, I have a feeling that Bob might be over
estimating how many "flight worthy" Saturn V launch vehicles existed
after the last Saturn V flew.

I'm sure he is. *He over estimates everything else, after all.

The number, as I recall it, was 'two'.

Actually easy enough to figure out how many are left. ;-)

15 were ordered. *13 flown.

I think even Bob can do that math.

Now, I'll admit to curiosity as to how the individual pieces ended up where
they did. *It does seem a bit arbitrary. :-)

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probably mostly then most convenient for display....

2nd stage at KSC leave it there.....

what has happened to the skylab trainer should be criminal

On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 07:33:35 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:


probably mostly then most convenient for display....

2nd stage at KSC leave it there.....

I think the S-1C was at KSC too, though. It was moved.

what has happened to the skylab trainer should be criminal

I'm as big a space geek as the next guy, but I for one will never
understand all this worship for a damned training article.

Brian

On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:41:21 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:

http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2127/1

so there were 2 flight worth stacks left outside to rot.....

sad ending of a great launcher

Finally, something to agree with Bob about!

Brian

In article , bthorn64
@suddenlink.net says...

On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 07:33:35 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:
what has happened to the skylab trainer should be criminal

I'm as big a space geek as the next guy, but I for one will never
understand all this worship for a damned training article.

At least the backup Skylab is in the NASM.

Jeff
--
" Ares 1 is a prime example of the fact that NASA just can't get it
up anymore... and when they can, it doesn't stay up long. "
- tinker

In article , bthorn64
@suddenlink.net says...

On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 16:41:21 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:

http://www.thespacereview.com/article/2127/1

so there were 2 flight worth stacks left outside to rot.....

sad ending of a great launcher

Finally, something to agree with Bob about!

True. Skylab was tiny compared to what NASA could have done with 33
foot diameter lab modules:

Orbital Launch Facility
Jun 06, 2012
http://up-ship.com/blog/?p=15021

For extra fun, imagine keeping the 2nd stage attached for "wet
workshop" space.

Jeff
--
" Ares 1 is a prime example of the fact that NASA just can't get it
up anymore... and when they can, it doesn't stay up long. "
- tinker