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Is there a net-accessibile table or chart that follows
the shifting split of US military and civilian space budgets over the years, especially from the 1960s through 1990s? I need the ratio and the changes in the ratio for a space debate I'm engaged in -- will share results when done, thanks! |
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Won't the "black" programs be a problem? I don't think
those things are publicly itemized. Are you willing to ignore those? Dave |
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Jim Oberg wrote: Is there a net-accessibile table or chart that follows the shifting split of US military and civilian space budgets over the years, especially from the 1960s through 1990s? I need the ratio and the changes in the ratio for a space debate I'm engaged in -- will share results when done, thanks! U.S. Space Spending - Civilian, Military and Commercial Congressional Research Service - Library of Congress - 4/2003 Page 12 has a chart 1959-2007 http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/infousa/...e/programs.pdf Rusty |
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David Spain wrote:
Won't the "black" programs be a problem? I don't think those things are publicly itemized. Are you willing to ignore those? Dave From Rusty's reference to .pdf file: [quote] The National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) conducts the most visible space activities. NASA requested $15.0 billion for FY2003; Congress approved $15.3 billion (adjusted for the 0.65% acrossthe- board rescission, from which the shuttle program was exempted). The FY2004 request is $15.5 billion. The Department of Defense (DOD) has a less visible but equally substantial space program. Tracking the DOD space budget is extremely difficult since space is not identified as a separate line item in the budget. DOD sometimes releases only partial information (omitting funding for classified programs) or will suddenly release without explanation new figures for prior years that are quite different from what was previously reported. The most recent figures from DOD show a total (classified and unclassified) space budget of $15.7 billion for FY2002, $18.4 billion for FY2003, and a FY2004 request of $20.4 billion. DOD space issues include management of programs to develop new early warning and missile tracking satellites, and management of military and intelligence space activities generally. [end quote] Answers my question. On page 9 there's a chart that shows one outpacing the other from 1961 till 1981 and then they cross, cross again in 1991 and 1993, 1999, 2001, and then one wildly diverges from the other in 2002 to 2008. But since this report was prepared in April 2003, presumably anything after 2002 is a projection? And I'll be danged if I can tell from the chart which is which. Was this supposed to be in color? Reading the text in this paragraph would indicate that the top line ending in '07 is DOD spending and the bottom line is NASA spending. Therefore according to the char NASA *slightly* exceeded DOD from 1961 to 1981, during the 80's DOD exceeded NASA, they meet briefly in the early 90's, then DOD exceeds NASA again in late 90's and then really heads off in the 00's... Dave |
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David Spain wrote: David Spain wrote: Won't the "black" programs be a problem? I don't think those things are publicly itemized. Are you willing to ignore those? Dave From Rusty's reference to .pdf file: [quote] The National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) conducts the most visible space activities. NASA requested $15.0 billion for FY2003; Congress approved $15.3 billion (adjusted for the 0.65% acrossthe- board rescission, from which the shuttle program was exempted). The FY2004 request is $15.5 billion. But since this report was prepared in April 2003, presumably anything after 2002 is a projection? And I'll be danged if I can tell from the chart which is which. Was this supposed to be in color? The top line in the 1960's is NASA (~$ 5-billion). Notice how it drops off after the moon landing. The original chart must have been in color. Rusty |
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"Rusty" wrote:
The top line in the 1960's is NASA (~$ 5-billion). Notice how it drops off after the moon landing. The original chart must have been in color. Actually the curve begins to roll off right where it should, around 1965-67, by 1969 it is already well down from its peak. Further proof however that the referenced line is NASA's is the presence of the post Challenger peak and the Freedom/ISS 'hump'. D. -- Touch-twice life. Eat. Drink. Laugh. -Resolved: To be more temperate in my postings. Oct 5th, 2004 JDL |
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Jim Oberg wrote: Is there a net-accessibile table or chart that follows the shifting split of US military and civilian space budgets over the years, especially from the 1960s through 1990s? I need the ratio and the changes in the ratio for a space debate I'm engaged in -- will share results when done, thanks! This page might be a step in the right direction: http://www.afa.org/magazine/Dec2005/1205CBO.asp Pat |
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David Spain wrote: Therefore according to the char NASA *slightly* exceeded DOD from 1961 to 1981, during the 80's DOD exceeded NASA, they meet briefly in the early 90's, then DOD exceeds NASA again in late 90's and then really heads off in the 00's... The stuff I found showed considerably raised year-to-year DOD space budgets peaking around 2015: http://www.afa.org/magazine/Dec2005/1205CBO.asp At least that's how in looked in December of 2005. In fact, the article states that DOD space budgets might _double_ within five years. Pat |
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