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Is spacetime disappearing at the center of a celestial body withmass?
If the matrix of spacetime is accelerating inwards from everywhere on
the circumference of a sphere with mass, shouldn't spacetime then disappear at the center of the mass? If you have two individuals on opposite sides of this planet, one on the north pole and another one one the south pole. Both these individuals are accelerating towards each other by 9.81 m/s2, but they don't get any closer to each other. If spacetime didn't disappear at the center of the earth, wouldn't it be impossible for these two individuals to accelerate towards each other? |
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Is spacetime disappearing at the center of a celestial body with mass?
"Zanthius" wrote in message ... If the matrix of spacetime is accelerating inwards Bwhahahahahahahahahahaha! If the Easter Bunny lays it eggs in a black hole, are black holes made of chocolate or do they hatch into bright green flying elephants? Ranting idiot alert! *plonk* Do not reply to this generic message, it was automatically generated; you have been kill-filed, either for being boringly stupid, repetitive, unfunny, ineducable, repeatedly posting politics, religion or off-topic subjects to a sci. newsgroup, attempting cheapskate free advertising for profit, because you are a troll, because you responded to George Hammond the complete fruit cake, simply insane or any combination or permutation of the aforementioned reasons; any reply will go unread. Boringly stupid is the most common cause of kill-filing, but because this message is generic the other reasons have been included. You are left to decide which is most applicable to you. There is no appeal, I have despotic power over whom I will electronically admit into my home and you do not qualify as a reasonable person I would wish to converse with or even poke fun at. Some weirdoes are not kill- filed, they amuse me and I retain them for their entertainment value as I would any chicken with two heads, either one of which enables the dumb bird to scratch dirt, step back, look down, step forward to the same spot and repeat the process eternally. This should not trouble you, many of those plonked find it a blessing that they are not required to think and can persist in their bigotry or crackpot theories without challenge. You have the right to free speech, I have the right not to listen. The kill-file will be cleared annually with spring cleaning or whenever I purchase a new computer or hard drive. Update: the last clearance was 25/12/09. Some individuals have been restored to the list. I'm fully aware that you may be so stupid as to reply, but the purpose of this message is to encourage others to kill-file ****wits like you. I hope you find this explanation is satisfactory but even if you don't, damnly my frank, I don't give a dear. Have a nice day and **** off. |
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Is spacetime disappearing at the center of a celestial body withmass?
Correction. Any acceleration is a divergence from the general flow of
spacetime. So if I am accelerating towards the center of the earth, then the matrix of spacetime should be flowing outwards from the center of the earth, not inwards. As I am stationary on the surface of the earth, I am perceived as accelerating inwards, as the general flow of spacetime goes outwards. Spacetime has to be continuously "created" at the center of the earth. It shouldn't be disappearing there. On Feb 1, 11:46*am, Zanthius wrote: If the matrix of spacetime is accelerating inwards from everywhere on the circumference of a sphere with mass, shouldn't spacetime then disappear at the center of the mass? If you have two individuals on opposite sides of this planet, one on the north pole and another one one the south pole. Both these individuals are accelerating towards each other by 9.81 m/s2, but they don't get any closer to each other. If spacetime didn't disappear at the center of the earth, wouldn't it be impossible for these two individuals to accelerate towards each other? |
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Is spacetime disappearing at the center of a celestial body withmass?
Dear Zanthius:
On Feb 1, 3:46*am, Zanthius wrote: If the matrix of spacetime is accelerating inwards from everywhere on the circumference of a sphere with mass, shouldn't spacetime then disappear at the center of the mass? Yes, the whole idea is bollixed up. Spacetime is a mathematical abstraction, and does not disappear down Alice's rabbit hole. Neither "falling space" or any of its variants make any sense whatsoever. If you want to waste time on another fairy tale, try "LeSage gravitation". David A. Smith |
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On Feb 1, 3:54*pm, dlzc wrote:
Yes, the whole idea is bollixed up. *Spacetime is a mathematical abstraction, and does not disappear down Alice's rabbit hole. *Neither "falling space" or any of its variants make any sense whatsoever. *If you want to waste time on another fairy tale, try "LeSage gravitation". David A. Smith Well, if the earth was a spaceship and I am pulled towards the ground, then the earth must be accelerating upwards for me to feel a a force of 1G downwards. |
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Is spacetime disappearing at the center of a celestial body withmass?
Dear Zanthius:
On Feb 1, 8:14*am, Zanthius wrote: On Feb 1, 3:54*pm, dlzc wrote: Yes, the whole idea is bollixed up. *Spacetime is a mathematical abstraction, and does not disappear down Alice's rabbit hole. *Neither "falling space" or any of its variants make any sense whatsoever. *If you want to waste time on another fairy tale, try "LeSage gravitation". Well, if the earth was a spaceship and I am pulled towards the ground, then the earth must be accelerating upwards for me to feel a a force of 1G downwards. Yea, too bad that "acceleration by gravity" is fundamentally different than acceleration by a force system. If you fire thrusters to change your orbit, you feel a force upwards by your seat (or other ways by straps). When you are on Earth, Earth's surface applies a force to you to keep you from proceeding along your force-free geodesic... an ellipse with its major axis aligned to your current position. Still no need for "force actors" to get gravitation. David A. Smith |
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On Feb 1, 7:41*pm, dlzc wrote:
Yea, too bad that "acceleration by gravity" is fundamentally different than acceleration by a force system. Well, suppose that the earth is growing in size in such a way that the surface of the planet is accelerated upwards in all directions at 9,81 m/s2. How would this be different from an object falling towards the earth at 9.81 m/s2? |
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Is spacetime disappearing at the center of a celestial body with mass?
Zanthius wrote:
On Feb 1, 7:41 pm, dlzc wrote: Yea, too bad that "acceleration by gravity" is fundamentally different than acceleration by a force system. Well, suppose that the earth is growing in size in such a way that the surface of the planet is accelerated upwards in all directions at 9,81 m/s2. How would this be different from an object falling towards the earth at 9.81 m/s2? Well, for one thing, you couldn't see the "accelerating force" until/unless you were in contact with the surface. Bob M. |
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Is spacetime disappearing at the center of a celestial body withmass?
On Feb 1, 8:22*pm, "Bob Myers" wrote:
Well, for one thing, you couldn't see the "accelerating force" until/unless you were in contact with the surface. Well, if the sun's growth vector is equal to the earth's vector away from the sun, won't the earth then stay in a stable orbit? |
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Is spacetime disappearing at the center of a celestial body withmass?
Dear Zanthius:
On Feb 1, 12:34*pm, Zanthius wrote: On Feb 1, 8:22*pm, "Bob Myers" wrote: Well, for one thing, you couldn't see the "accelerating force" until/unless you were in contact with the surface. Well, if the sun's growth vector is equal to the earth's vector away from the sun, won't the earth then stay in a stable orbit? But none of the other planets can, and we can't stay in orbit around the Milky Way, and so on. It is a house of cards that folds up with but a few moments thought. David A. Smith |
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