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PENTCHO DOESN'T KNOW SR FORBIDDEN LOGIC IN EINSTEINIANA
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PENTCHO DOESN'T KNOW SR FORBIDDEN LOGIC IN EINSTEINIANA
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FORBIDDEN LOGIC IN EINSTEINIANA
The essential difference between the twin at rest and the travelling
twin is that the latter experiences accelaration during the journey. So in his infamous 1918 paper Einstein had no choice but to claim that the greater youthfulness of the travelling twin is due to acceleration. However: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/academ/...elativity.html G. BURNISTON BROWN: "There is, in principle, no need for acceleration. Twin A can get his velocity V before synchronizing his clock with that of twin B as he passes. He need not turn round: he could be passed by C who has a velocity V in the opposite direction, and who adjusts his clock to that of A as he passes. When C later passes B they can compare clock readings. As far as the theoretical experiment is concerned, C's clock can be considered to be A's clock returning without acceleration since, by hypothesis, all the clocks have the same rate when at rest together and change with motion in the same way independently of direction. [fn. I am indebted to Lord Halsbury for pointing this out to me.]" That is, even without acceleration, the travelling twin ages slower than the twin at rest. However, without acceleration, Einstein's 1905 light postulate entails RECIPROCAL time dilation and the twin at rest must age slower than the travelling twin. Clearly we have REDUCTIO AD ABSURDUM showing that Einstein's 1905 light postulate is false. Pentcho Valev wrote: PREMISE: By increasing the perimeter of a rotating disc while keeping the linear speed of the periphery constant, one converts clocks fixed on the periphery into VIRTUALLY INERTIAL clocks (the "gravitational field" they experience is reduced to zero). CONCLUSION: In accordance with Einstein's 1905 light postulate, a clock at rest situated outside the disc, close to the periphery, will be seen running SLOWER than the virtually inertial clocks passing it. Another prediction based on Einstein's 1905 light postulate is that the clock at rest will be seen running FASTER than the virtually inertial clocks passing it ( http://www2.bartleby.com/173/23.html ). Clearly we have REDUCTIO AD ABSURDUM showing that Einstein's 1905 light postulate is false. There is a consequence of Einstein's 1905 light postulate which, if suitably applied, converts the famous clock (twin) paradox into an obvious absurdity. Here is the consequence: If a single inertial clock covers the distance between two other inertial clocks (immobile relative to one another), then the single clock runs slower than the two other clocks. In the clock paradox scenario the travelling clock commutes between the clock at rest and the final destination where another clock at rest can be placed. So, according to Einstein's 1905 light postulate, the travelling clock runs slower than the clock at rest. However, in essentially the same scenario, the clock at rest commutes between two travelling clocks - e.g. placed at the front end and the back end of a very long rocket. Therefore, according to Einstein's 1905 light postulate, the clock at rest runs slower than the travelling clock. Clearly we have REDUCTIO AD ABSURDUM showing that Einstein's 1905 light postulate is false. Pentcho Valev |
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FORBIDDEN LOGIC IN EINSTEINIANA
"Pentcho Valev" wrote in message ... The essential difference between the twin at rest and the travelling twin is that the latter experiences accelaration during the journey. No. The essential difference is that one remains in an inertial reference frame, whereas the other does not. Where did you learn Relativity? From a cereal box? |
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FORBIDDEN LOGIC IN EINSTEINIANA
"Peter Webb" wrote in message ... | | "Pentcho Valev" wrote in message | ... | The essential difference between the twin at rest and the travelling | twin is that the latter experiences accelaration during the journey. | | No. The essential difference is that one remains in an inertial reference | frame, whereas the other does not. | | Where did you learn Relativity? From a cereal box? | Game over, Webb. "the velocity of light in our theory plays the part, physically, of an infinitely great velocity" --§ 4. Physical Meaning of the Equations Obtained in Respect to Moving Rigid Bodies and Moving Clocks -- ON THE ELECTRODYNAMICS OF MOVING BODIES By A. Einstein Having joined the Relativity Taliban your role as a suicide bomber has been successful, you managed to blow yourself. |
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FORBIDDEN LOGIC IN EINSTEINIANA
The famous clock (twin) paradox consists in a superimposition of
absurdities. Originally we have RECIPROCAL time dilation - a direct consequence of Einstein's 1905 false light postulate: I see your clock running SLOWER than mine by a factor of (1/gamma) and you see mine running SLOWER than yours by a factor of (1/gamma). In his 1905 paper Einstein superimposed another absurdity incompatible with the original one: At the end of your round trip both of us see your clock running SLOWER than mine by a factor of (1/gamma) and mine running FASTER than yours by a factor of gamma. For a century the breathtaking question: What in your round trip has made my clock run FASTER? has been shaping (destroying) the sense of rationality of generations of scientists. There is a third superimposed absurdity lurking in the experimental "confirmation" of the my-clock-fast-your-clock-slow wisdom. Cosmic-ray muons crashing into an obstacle quickly disintegrate. Cosmic-ray muons that do not crash live longer. In Einsteiniana's schizophrenic world crashing muons are obviously analogous to the clock (twin) at rest. Non-crashing muons are analogous to the travelling clock (twin). So Divine Albert's Divine Special Relativity predicts that, when the travelling twin returns, he is younger than the twin at rest. Pentcho Valev wrote: The essential difference between the twin at rest and the travelling twin is that the latter experiences accelaration during the journey. So in his infamous 1918 paper Einstein had no choice but to claim that the greater youthfulness of the travelling twin is due to acceleration. However: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/academ/...elativity.html G. BURNISTON BROWN: "There is, in principle, no need for acceleration. Twin A can get his velocity V before synchronizing his clock with that of twin B as he passes. He need not turn round: he could be passed by C who has a velocity V in the opposite direction, and who adjusts his clock to that of A as he passes. When C later passes B they can compare clock readings. As far as the theoretical experiment is concerned, C's clock can be considered to be A's clock returning without acceleration since, by hypothesis, all the clocks have the same rate when at rest together and change with motion in the same way independently of direction. [fn. I am indebted to Lord Halsbury for pointing this out to me.]" That is, even without acceleration, the travelling twin ages slower than the twin at rest. However, without acceleration, Einstein's 1905 light postulate entails RECIPROCAL time dilation and the twin at rest must age slower than the travelling twin. Clearly we have REDUCTIO AD ABSURDUM showing that Einstein's 1905 light postulate is false. There is a consequence of Einstein's 1905 light postulate which, if suitably applied, converts the famous clock (twin) paradox into an obvious absurdity. Here is the consequence: If a single inertial clock covers the distance between two other inertial clocks (immobile relative to one another), then the single clock runs slower than the two other clocks. In the clock paradox scenario the travelling clock commutes between the clock at rest and the final destination where another clock at rest can be placed. So, according to Einstein's 1905 light postulate, the travelling clock runs slower than the clock at rest. However, in essentially the same scenario, the clock at rest commutes between two travelling clocks - e.g. placed at the front end and the back end of a very long rocket. Therefore, according to Einstein's 1905 light postulate, the clock at rest runs slower than the travelling clock. Clearly we have REDUCTIO AD ABSURDUM showing that Einstein's 1905 light postulate is false. PREMISE: By increasing the perimeter of a rotating disc while keeping the linear speed of the periphery constant, one converts clocks fixed on the periphery into VIRTUALLY INERTIAL clocks (the "gravitational field" they experience is reduced to zero). CONCLUSION: In accordance with Einstein's 1905 light postulate, a clock at rest situated outside the disc, close to the periphery, will be seen running SLOWER than the virtually inertial clocks passing it. Another prediction based on Einstein's 1905 light postulate is that the clock at rest will be seen running FASTER than the virtually inertial clocks passing it ( http://www2.bartleby.com/173/23.html ). Clearly we have REDUCTIO AD ABSURDUM showing that Einstein's 1905 light postulate is false. Pentcho Valev |
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"Pentcho Valev" wrote in message
... The famous clock (twin) paradox consists in a superimposition of absurdities. Originally we have RECIPROCAL time dilation - a direct consequence of Einstein's 1905 false light postulate: Except you have no valid reason for claiming it to be false.. all experiment supports it as being correct I see your clock running SLOWER than mine by a factor of (1/gamma) and you see mine running SLOWER than yours by a factor of (1/gamma). Yes .. that's mutual time dilation. In his 1905 paper Einstein superimposed another absurdity incompatible with the original one: At the end of your round trip both of us see your clock running SLOWER than mine by a factor of (1/gamma) and mine running FASTER than yours by a factor of gamma. Nope. Try again. For a century the breathtaking question: What in your round trip has made my clock run FASTER? The change in rest frame of reference for the travelling twin .. its been answered for a century. Where have you been? [snip more nonsense and lies] |
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