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The Battle for New Orleans!
It's not looting. What they're doing in New Orleans is scavenging. I don't care if it's stereos or jewelry, any unclaimed property within the city limits of New Orleans is rightfully owned by the New citizens or Orleans. Many that stayed behind did so because they didn't have a car or any money or a hundred other reasons. And now they don't have jobs or a place either. What are they gonna do next week or month? They need that stuff, and it's all going to the dogs anyway. Any government agents that attempt to prevent the new citizens from distributing their new property for the next few days had better expect resistance. And they'll deserve it. I expect our government is already giving up the battle, or will soon. Go Orleans! Jonathan s |
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jonathan wrote:
It's not looting. What they're doing in New Orleans is scavenging. scavenging is when you dig through the remains of a grocery store to get something to eat. Looting is when you run through the streets carrying a gun and grabbing jewelry and appliances. I don't care if it's stereos or jewelry, any unclaimed property within the city limits of New Orleans is rightfully owned by the New citizens or Orleans. "rightfully" according to...whom? Many that stayed behind did so because they didn't have a car or any money or a hundred other reasons. the old and invalid who had nobody to take care of them had an excuse. Poor people can still start walking and try to hitch a ride or get to an emergency shelter. They have no excuses. And now they don't have jobs or a place either. What are they gonna do next week or month? die, quite a few of them. THe death toll is going to go up drastically in the next week. That's now because the authorities will start to get a more accurate toll of those who have already died...it's becuase all the people waving sheets out the windows of their apartment buildings are going to die of dehydration or disease in the next few days. They need that stuff, and it's all going to the dogs anyway. you don't need a new microwave in a city where it will be many months before there is electircity to run said microwave. Looters are *stupid*. Any government agents that attempt to prevent the new citizens from distributing their new property for the next few days had better expect resistance. And they'll deserve it. tell you what sparky, turn on CNN for a few hours and see what the conditions in New Orleans are really like now. *That* is what anarchy looks like. It isn't liberating. It's people dying and suffering in a state little better than wild animals. I woulsd advise you to take a *real* good look. And in the future be real, real careful what you ask for, eh boyo? I expect our government is already giving up the battle, or will soon. Go Orleans! actually, tghe city police are having to spend less time on the rescue efforts and more time stopping the looting. The exact opposite of what you think is going on, in fact. -- Terrell Miller "Suddenly, after nearly 30 years of scorn, Prog is cool again". -Entertainment Weekly |
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On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 19:40:09 -0400, "jonathan"
wrote: It's not looting. What they're doing in New Orleans is scavenging. I don't care if it's stereos or jewelry, any unclaimed property within the city limits of New Orleans is rightfully owned by the New citizens or Orleans. What does this have to do with space policy? Brian |
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Brian Thorn wrote in part:
What does this have to do with space policy? A country moving toward revolution is unlikely to have a coherent space policy. Hope this helps. -- It Came From C. L. Smith's Unclaimed Mysteries. http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net |
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Unclaimed Mysteries wrote:
A country moving toward revolution is unlikely to have a coherent space policy. Hope this helps. Revolution? You missed the '60s, right? But I do wonder if the space exploration Vision thing (Moon/Mars) is going to vanish now that the U.S. has much bigger problems. Will people support a big space effort after the victim list is tabulated in New Orleans, where many, many people will likely end up dying due to government incompetence? Will people be interested in their government spending gobs of money exploring rocks in space when gas costs $4 or $5/gallon (when it is available at all) and when home heating bills triple? People are going to lay blame. Will this President, who at times this week seemed embarassingly disconnected from the reality of this catastrophe, survive the coming political storm and will his "Vision" fall with him? - Ed Kyle |
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Unclaimed Mysteries wrote:
Brian Thorn wrote in part: What does this have to do with space policy? A country moving toward revolution is unlikely to have a coherent space policy. Sure. But what does that have to do with anything? Unless you're expecting the looting thugs to lead a popular uprising of other people who want to steal other peoples stuff. -- "The only thing that galls me about someone burning the American flag is how unoriginal it is. I mean if you're going to pull the Freedom-of-speech card, don't be a hack, come up with something interesting. Fashion Old Glory into a wisecracking puppet and blister the system with a scathing ventriloquism act, or better yet, drape the flag over your head and desecrate it with a large caliber bullet hole." Dennis Miller |
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Ed Kyle wrote:
Will people support a big space effort after the victim list is tabulated in New Orleans, Lots of space jobs in NO. Michoud might be one of the few employers left. where many, many people will likely end up dying due to government incompetence? Will people be interested in their government spending gobs of money exploring rocks in space when gas costs $4 or $5/gallon (when it is available at all) and when home heating bills triple? Perfect time for space exploration. Start building solar power plants on the moon, frex. Coupel that to the fact that the government should soon be opening a hunting season on environmental protesters who stand in the way of new nuclear powerplants, and space has a shot. -- "The only thing that galls me about someone burning the American flag is how unoriginal it is. I mean if you're going to pull the Freedom-of-speech card, don't be a hack, come up with something interesting. Fashion Old Glory into a wisecracking puppet and blister the system with a scathing ventriloquism act, or better yet, drape the flag over your head and desecrate it with a large caliber bullet hole." Dennis Miller |
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Scott Lowther wrote:
Unclaimed Mysteries wrote: Brian Thorn wrote in part: What does this have to do with space policy? A country moving toward revolution is unlikely to have a coherent space policy. Sure. But what does that have to do with anything? Unless you're expecting the looting thugs to lead a popular uprising of other people who want to steal other peoples stuff. Okay, I'll tone it down just for you. A country careening from foreign policy failures to monumental domestic fsckups to advocating the injection of religious dogma in public science education - is unlikely to have a coherent space policy. Tell me Scott, have you got your tongue extended so that it actually tickles W's prostate? -- It Came From C. L. Smith's Unclaimed Mysteries. http://www.unclaimedmysteries.net Sean Ormond wrote in atl.general: "Do this for me Corry...Next time you conveniently get from point A to point B using a gas-powered vehicle (I'm guessing this will happen in less than 24 hrs), go ahead and drop to your knees and give a little prayer to Gaia, the Fairy Queen, or whatever it is you nut-jobs worship. You can thank her for schools like Georgia Tech, where students learn how to do something other than hug trees and hate America for a living." |
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jonathan wrote: It's not looting. Many that stayed behind did so because they didn't have a car or any money or a hundred other reasons. One of which might well have been the opportunity to loot in a largely deserted city in the aftermath of the storm. And now they don't have jobs or a place either. What are they gonna do next week or month? They need that stuff, and it's all going to the dogs anyway. (Cut to image of wet and mangy mutt dragging a laptop down the street.) Any government agents that attempt to prevent the new citizens from distributing their new property for the next few days had better expect resistance. And they'll deserve it. After all, "What's yours is mine!". I expect our government is already giving up the battle, or will soon. Go Orleans! You should go down there and join the revolution. You could be a soldier in the new order, or if they get hungry enough, possibly a self-propelled MRE for the troops. :-) Pat |
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Terrell Miller wrote: Looting is when you run through the streets carrying a gun and grabbing jewelry and appliances. Cut to image of looter trying to lug a washer/dryer down the street. I don't care if it's stereos or jewelry, any unclaimed property within the city limits of New Orleans is rightfully owned by the New citizens or Orleans. "rightfully" according to...whom? Mr. Smith and Mr. Wesson, I presume. the old and invalid who had nobody to take care of them had an excuse. Poor people can still start walking and try to hitch a ride or get to an emergency shelter. They have no excuses. Yeah, but they might have a Ruger Mini-14, and having one of those means never having to say you're sorry. And now they don't have jobs or a place either. What are they gonna do next week or month? die, quite a few of them. THe death toll is going to go up drastically in the next week. That's now because the authorities will start to get a more accurate toll of those who have already died...it's becuase all the people waving sheets out the windows of their apartment buildings are going to die of dehydration or disease in the next few days. And if people keep shooting at everyone who tries to to get aid to the city, that's exactly what's going to happen. They need that stuff, and it's all going to the dogs anyway. you don't need a new microwave in a city where it will be many months before there is electircity to run said microwave. Looters are *stupid*. Yeah, in the Mississippi Delta anyone in their right mind would either be looting a piece of the Original Mojo, or digging in the muddy rubble to see if they could locate The Blue Note or the deed to Robert Johnson's soul. tell you what sparky, turn on CNN for a few hours and see what the conditions in New Orleans are really like now. *That* is what anarchy looks like. It isn't liberating. It's people dying and suffering in a state little better than wild animals. I woulsd advise you to take a *real* good look. And in the future be real, real careful what you ask for, eh boyo? I'm thinking he'll be good in some sort of a Cajun sauce, with lots of onions and garlic. Look what I found!: "I, the undersigned _roburt jonsun_ (party of the first part) do hereby bequeath my immortal soul to eternal damnation in the hands of Ol' Massah Satan (party of the second part) in exchange for _lernen how to play the geetar good, and singin the blews good to_." And it's signed in blood! You know what that means? WE CAN CLONE HIM BACK TO LIFE! :-) Pat |
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