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Old August 7th 03, 12:27 PM
G=EMC^2 Glazier
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Lots of iron in our solar system. It is a very tough atom.A good
conductor of electricity,and is easily made magnetic. It oxidizes with
a reddish brown color. Mars the red planet is showing us it has lots of
iron in its crust,and on its surface. Mars has the tallest mountains of
any planet. Best theory they were built in earlier times and are
volcanoes,and plate movement. Would it be a kicker if they are
made out of iron much like our tallest building have to be built with
iron so they can be built tall and not fall down. Rock that creates
mountains here on earth crumble Mountains made of iron don't have that
problem..Mars has dust storms that could erode rock,but I don't know how
high the storms go. Earth has wind,and water. If
Mars has an iron crust I think its creators would show this in some way.
Bert

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Old August 7th 03, 02:45 PM
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"G=EMC^2 Glazier" wrote in message
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Lots of iron in our solar system. It is a very tough atom.A good
conductor of electricity,and is easily made magnetic. It oxidizes with
a reddish brown color. Mars the red planet is showing us it has lots of
iron in its crust,and on its surface. Mars has the tallest mountains of
any planet. Best theory they were built in earlier times and are
volcanoes,and plate movement. Would it be a kicker if they are
made out of iron much like our tallest building have to be built with
iron so they can be built tall and not fall down. Rock that creates
mountains here on earth crumble Mountains made of iron don't have that
problem..Mars has dust storms that could erode rock,but I don't know how
high the storms go. Earth has wind,and water. If
Mars has an iron crust I think its creators would show this in some way.
Bert


A rusty-red iron planet? Sounds like water is at work.

BV.


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Old August 8th 03, 04:15 AM
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G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:

BV Not water but oxygen. CO2 has two parts oxygen,and it don't rain on
Mars. Bert


Dry carbon dioxide doesn't react appreciably with iron; the oxygen
atoms are covalently bound to the carbon atom and therefore don't
have their usual "oxidative" strength, i.e. their tendency to react
with electron donors ("reducing agents") like metals. The iron
content of basalts and andesites like those believed to make up much
of the Martian surface is only something like 15-20% by weight. Note
also that most of it is in the form of "ferrous" (iron II) silicates,
while the iron in rust (and hematite) is in the "ferric" (iron III)
oxidation state.

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Old August 9th 03, 09:05 PM
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It is Olympus Mons that 17 mile high volcano that gave me the idea that
an iron inforced structure might be needed for such a tall volcano. True
Mars has little atmosphere to wear it down,and having three time less
gravity than the earth helps keep it up.However if it was made out of
rock alone(no iron) I would think it would become crumbly and could not
keep such a great height over the millions of years. At this time Mars
volcano eruptions,are well over,and no more Mars quakes. This makes a
very stable surface. Bert PS I can't see Mars dust
storms rising to more than 1 mile up.

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Old August 9th 03, 09:05 PM
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It is Olympus Mons that 17 mile high volcano that gave me the idea that
an iron inforced structure might be needed for such a tall volcano. True
Mars has little atmosphere to wear it down,and having three time less
gravity than the earth helps keep it up.However if it was made out of
rock alone(no iron) I would think it would become crumbly and could not
keep such a great height over the millions of years. At this time Mars
volcano eruptions,are well over,and no more Mars quakes. This makes a
very stable surface. Bert PS I can't see Mars dust
storms rising to more than 1 mile up.

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Old August 10th 03, 03:05 AM
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G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:

It is Olympus Mons that 17 mile high volcano that gave me the idea that
an iron inforced structure might be needed for such a tall volcano. True
Mars has little atmosphere to wear it down,and having three time less
gravity than the earth helps keep it up.However if it was made out of
rock alone(no iron) I would think it would become crumbly and could not
keep such a great height over the millions of years.


It's mainly steepness, not total elevation, that makes a mountain
slope unstable. Olympus Mons has a base hundreds of kilometres wide;
although there are some cliffs and escarpments at its foot, most of
its slopes are comparatively gentle. The great Tharsis bulge, on
which three other large volcanoes and several smaller ones also
stand, accounts for something like a quarter of Olympus's total
elevation above the datum.

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Old August 10th 03, 03:05 AM
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G=EMC^2 Glazier wrote:

It is Olympus Mons that 17 mile high volcano that gave me the idea that
an iron inforced structure might be needed for such a tall volcano. True
Mars has little atmosphere to wear it down,and having three time less
gravity than the earth helps keep it up.However if it was made out of
rock alone(no iron) I would think it would become crumbly and could not
keep such a great height over the millions of years.


It's mainly steepness, not total elevation, that makes a mountain
slope unstable. Olympus Mons has a base hundreds of kilometres wide;
although there are some cliffs and escarpments at its foot, most of
its slopes are comparatively gentle. The great Tharsis bulge, on
which three other large volcanoes and several smaller ones also
stand, accounts for something like a quarter of Olympus's total
elevation above the datum.

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Old August 10th 03, 02:59 PM
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Thanks Odysseus for that information. My iron structure theory was just
making good use of the iron that came up from Mars mantle. Mars having
only one third earth's gravity gives me the idea that its iron core has
now lots less iron,because it was able to bring it to the surface. A
good reason for not having a magnetic field. Iron left in Mars core
could be hot and solid. Mars does spin about as fast as earth. Its core
can not be a dynamo like the earth. Bert

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Old August 10th 03, 02:59 PM
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Thanks Odysseus for that information. My iron structure theory was just
making good use of the iron that came up from Mars mantle. Mars having
only one third earth's gravity gives me the idea that its iron core has
now lots less iron,because it was able to bring it to the surface. A
good reason for not having a magnetic field. Iron left in Mars core
could be hot and solid. Mars does spin about as fast as earth. Its core
can not be a dynamo like the earth. Bert

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Old August 12th 03, 09:04 PM
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Bert posted:

I think two of American probes were lost do to communication
failure Hmmmm Could it be possible what I stated above caused this
problem?


No. The Mars Observer spacecraft was lost due to a problem which occurred
before it reached Mars, probably caused by a failure in the propulsion system
needed to slow the spacecraft down and put it into orbit. Mars Climate
explorer was lost due to a navigation error on the part of the spacecraft
controllers here on Earth, and Mars Polar Lander was lost due to a faulty
engine cutoff sensing system which shut the engines down too early, causing it
to crash.
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