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Regarding the value of space flight
"Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)" wrote:
"Derek Lyons" wrote in message ... "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)" wrote: Note that Nigeria's recent launch of a resource sat. More accurately Nigeria's rental of a resource sat. Cite? Everything I've read indicates they own it. Everything I've read indicates that they paid someone else to design and build it, then to launch it. Hardly qualifies in my book as a "Nigerian" bird, as no local experience was gained except in the writing of checks. D. -- The STS-107 Columbia Loss FAQ can be found at the following URLs: Text-Only Version: http://www.io.com/~o_m/columbia_loss_faq.html Enhanced HTML Version: http://www.io.com/~o_m/columbia_loss_faq_x.html Corrections, comments, and additions should be e-mailed to , as well as posted to sci.space.history and sci.space.shuttle for discussion. |
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Regarding the value of space flight
"Derek Lyons" wrote in message ... "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)" wrote: "Derek Lyons" wrote in message ... "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)" wrote: Note that Nigeria's recent launch of a resource sat. More accurately Nigeria's rental of a resource sat. Cite? Everything I've read indicates they own it. Everything I've read indicates that they paid someone else to design and build it, then to launch it. Hardly qualifies in my book as a "Nigerian" bird, as no local experience was gained except in the writing of checks. In other words you can't back up your claim that it's rented? D. -- The STS-107 Columbia Loss FAQ can be found at the following URLs: Text-Only Version: http://www.io.com/~o_m/columbia_loss_faq.html Enhanced HTML Version: http://www.io.com/~o_m/columbia_loss_faq_x.html Corrections, comments, and additions should be e-mailed to , as well as posted to sci.space.history and sci.space.shuttle for discussion. |
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Regarding the value of space flight
In message , Derek Lyons
writes "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)" wrote: "Derek Lyons" wrote in message ... "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)" wrote: Note that Nigeria's recent launch of a resource sat. More accurately Nigeria's rental of a resource sat. Cite? Everything I've read indicates they own it. Everything I've read indicates that they paid someone else to design and build it, then to launch it. It was probably designed about five miles from where I'm typing this, and it may even have been built there! http://www.sstl.co.uk/ will have more information. -- "Forty millions of miles it was from us, more than forty millions of miles of void" Remove spam and invalid from address to reply. |
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Regarding the value of space flight
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 03:19:04 GMT, "Greg D. Moore \(Strider\)"
wrote: If you frame the whole thing as a jobs program, then sure. And I've skiied and hiked on places where many men were paid to basically dig dirt and move it. Thanks CCC. :-) On behalf of my late father, you're welcome Mary -- Mary Shafer Retired aerospace research engineer |
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Regarding the value of space flight
"Paul Blay" wrote in message ...
"B.Alm" wrote ... I have ever since Apollo 8 been a what some call a space buff. But sometimes I wonder if it's really the right thing to do if you look at it globally. I probably don't have to mention stuff like lack of water, food, medicare etc. Yes, we are fortunate in the industrial world (well, not all !). I doubt that all these experiments that have to be performed in space environment are (in the cases they really have to) correct to perform instead of putting resources on problems mentioned above , some yes, but not all. This is the beginnings of the "How can we waste money on space when we haven't eliminated poverty on Earth" type argument. It falls down on two main points. 1. The money 'wasted' is pretty small potatoes compared to the budgets of relevant governments. No reason for space exploration 2. They never explain why it's _space_ that money shouldn't be spent on when there is a whole heap o'stuff that money goes to (on individual as well as governmental basis) that could be squeezed. The question is what experiments require space environment and what could be simulated on earth. E.g the fantastic astronaut pen, authentic astronaut food, you name it. I wonder if there is any real investigation of what has been accomplished in space and the pay-off. Any web-site about that ? Next time someone tries the standard version of this argument, quiz them on their household budget and ask them why the 23% spent on frivolities isn't being sent to a suitable charity. I wonder if there are anyone in this group that like me, has (even the slightest) an ambivalent opinion about this or is it black or white, 0 or 1, like a lot of discussions seem to show. I'm not in favour of _all_ of the space activity to date, and planned. However, with a few notable exceptions, I think it has been no more wasteful than should be expected for something that includes hefty lumps of pure science and early development. Another important purpose of space flight is to fuel this group with funtastic and interesting facts to discuss. So this question should be sent to a more non-biased group. |
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Regarding the value of space flight
Jim Davis wrote:
[snip] Suppose there was a government agency which spent $15 billion annually paying people to dig ditches and fill them in again. Do you think the argument "the money 'wasted' is pretty small potatoes compared to the budgets of relevant governments" is a sound rebuttal to proposals to cut or eliminate such a program? [snip] Suppose there was a government agency which spent $15 billion annually paying people to dig ditches and fill them in again. Do you think the argument "there is a whole heap o'stuff that money goes to (on individual as well as governmental basis) that could be squeezed" is a sound rebuttal to proposals to cut or eliminate such a program? [snip] Sounds like $15 billion being poured back into the economy. $15 billion in the space program has the added benefit of producing solid research, making discoveries, advancing our knowledge in many fields and who knows what that may lead to? |
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Regarding the value of space flight
Jonathan Silverlight
wrote: In message , Derek Lyons writes [Greg D. Moore] Note that Nigeria's recent launch of a resource sat. [Derek Lyons] More accurately Nigeria's rental of a resource sat. [Greg D. Moore] Cite? Everything I've read indicates they own it. Everything I've read indicates that they paid someone else to design and build it, then to launch it. It was probably designed about five miles from where I'm typing this, and it may even have been built there! http://www.sstl.co.uk/ will have more information. But still, in the context of the discussion, the point is that a Nigerian action ("luanch", "rent", or "contract out") was undertaken to provide Nigeria with information about their resources and the state thereof. Even NASA resource sats are mostly built by contractors. /dps |
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